Barry won't release his birth certificate

[MonsterMark]

Michele Malkin wonders why he won't release his certificate.

2 more shoes to drop, that I know of.

Why won't Barry release his Birth Certificate?

Could it be because it states his religion as Muslim, just like his dad's birth certificate? Or was he born "barry" and later changed his name to warm up to the likes of Louis Farrakan?

Either way he is toast.

Also, there is a HUGE question as to whether he is even 'QUALIFIED' to be President based on the fact that his Dad was not a US citizen and his Mom didn't make the requirements necessary either.

Bring on the Supreme Court justices.

LMAO. The Dems are dinks.

 

[TheDude]

Obviosuly, that proves he's a terrorist. Seriously, what is the sick hang-up with Obama being a Muslim? Does it really matter that much? There are around 1.5 billion Muslims in the world, surely the majority isn't hell bent on destroying America.

The man was born on US soil, I'm fairly certain that qualifies as being an American.

 

[fossten]

Obviosuly, that proves he's a terrorist. Seriously, what is the sick hang-up with Obama being a Muslim? Does it really matter that much? There are around 1.5 billion Muslims in the world, surely the majority isn't hell bent on destroying America.

The man was born on US soil, I'm fairly certain that qualifies as being an American.

You err by calling the hangup about him being a Muslim "sick." Classic tactics, trying to frame the argument.

I have a problem with having a muslim president. I am not sick. I believe there are millions who feel the same way I do.

 

[glanga]

I have a huge problem with it. He should have no problem revealing his birth certificate. Even he realizes it will cause a problem. Mrs. McCain not revealing her tax statements doesn't have to do with the way this country will be governed and I sure as hell don't want it governed by a Muslim or even anyone who sympathizes with a group, even it's a select few, who are hell bent on destroying the West.

 

[MonsterMark]

The man was born on US soil, I'm fairly certain that qualifies as being an American.

Obama is a bast@rd child. His dad is not an American citizen. His mom was 18 when she had him out of wedlock. (Even their marriage ceremony in Hawaii is in question).

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On June 10th, 2008 at 8:37 am, legendx3 said:

Barack Obama is not legally a U.S. Natural-born citizen according to the law on the books at the time of his birth, which falls between “December 24, 1952 to November 13, 1986? . Presidential office requires a natural-born citizen if the child was not born to two U.S. Citizen parents, which of course is what exempts John McCain though he was born in the Panama Canal. US Law very clearly stipulates: “…If only one parent was a U.S. Citizen at the time of your birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for at least ten years, at least five of which had to be after the age of 16.” Barack Obama’s father was not a U.S. Citizen and Obama’s mother was only 18 when Obama was born, which means though she had been a U.S. Citizen for 10 years, (or citizen perhaps because of Hawai’i being a territory) the mother fails the test for being so for at least 5 years **prior to** Barack Obama’s birth, but *after* age 16. It doesn’t matter *after* . In essence, she was not old enough to qualify her son for automatic U.S. Citizenship. At most, there were only 2 years elapsed since his mother turned 16 at the time of Barack Obama’s birth when she was 18 in Hawai’i. His mother would have needed to have been 16+5= 21 years old, at the time of Barack Obama’s birth for him to have been a natural-born citizen. As aformentioned, she was a young college student at the time and was not. Barack Obama was already 3 years old at that time his mother would have needed to have waited to have him as the only U.S. Cizen parent. Obama instead should have been naturalized, but even then, that would still disqualify him from holding the office.
http://michellemalkin.com/2008/06/10/the-buzz-about-baracks-birth-certificate/

 

[ketyokeinnor]

Obviosuly, that proves he's a terrorist. Seriously, what is the sick hang-up with Obama being a Muslim? Does it really matter that much? There are around 1.5 billion Muslims in the world, surely the majority isn't hell bent on destroying America.

I personally don't think problem here is him being a Muslim, but that if he is that means he's been lying about that up to this point. He's said over and over he's a Christian not a Muslim. That, in my opinion calls to question his whole campaign, all the promises for "change". Everything. If he is lying about something that you said matters so little how can you believe anything he says/has said.

The man was born on US soil, I'm fairly certain that qualifies as being an American.

That makes him a US citizen, but not a "natural-born" citizen that the office requires. I'd imagine if there were this big of a problem Hillary's people would have been all over it.

Ron

 

[MonsterMark]

I'd imagine if there were this big of a problem Hillary's people would have been all over it. Ron

You should see my post where I laughed at the media for NOT reporting that Hillary had SUSPENDED, not ENDED her run for the Dem nomination. Why do you think she only suspended it. She has all her delegates. Watch all the SUPERS change their minds again (flip-flop is the correct Dem term to use here.)

The right-wing has been working on this for a while. There are 2 other shoes that will drop before election day.

Obama reeks of a muslim sympathizer and socialist and guys like DeVille and others just sniff his sweet perfume. Totally comical if you ask me.

 

[ketyokeinnor]

You should see my post where I laughed at the media for NOT reporting that Hillary had SUSPENDED, not ENDED her run for the Dem nomination. Why do you think she only suspended it. She has all her delegates. Watch all the SUPERS change their minds again (flip-flop is the correct Dem term to use here.)

I did not know that nor see your post, makes sense now. Haven't been able to keep as up-to-date on this stuff as I'd like to be, been working too many 12-18 hour days.

Obama reeks of a muslim sympathizer and socialist and guys like DeVille and others just sniff his sweet perfume. Totally comical if you ask me.

I can't really blame them. I'm 21 and basically everyone around my age has fallen for him. You try and point something like the birth certificate thing(or lack of experience) out and get labeled as a Bush-nut.

Ron

 

[TheDude]

You err by calling the hangup about him being a Muslim "sick." Classic tactics, trying to frame the argument.

I have a problem with having a muslim president. I am not sick. I believe there are millions who feel the same way I do.

Then what do you call having and problem with a person because of their (assumed) religion?

I don't doubt that. There's probably a sizeable portion of Americans who have a problem with having a president with a Negro background. Simply because there are "X" amount who feel that way, doesn't make it reasonable, does it?

 

[TheDude]

I personally don't think problem here is him being a Muslim, but that if he is that means he's been lying about that up to this point. He's said over and over he's a Christian not a Muslim. That, in my opinion calls to question his whole campaign, all the promises for "change". Everything. If he is lying about something that you said matters so little how can you believe anything he says/has said.


That makes him a US citizen, but not a "natural-born" citizen that the office requires. I'd imagine if there were this big of a problem Hillary's people would have been all over it.

Ron

I believe he has said he was a Muslim at one point and converted to Christianity long ago.

There's also the fact that he didn't choose what went on his birth certificate, the parents did.

I think being born on US soil makes one a "natural-born", I'll have to look it up. McCain was born in a US military base in Panama, yet he is "natural-born".

These are just desperate fear tactics. Instead of attacking Obama for his stances on the economy, war, foreign relations etc. etc. etc. It's "his birth certificate says he Muslim, so he MUSLIM" and "He has no right running for president, he wasn't born here!"

 

[TheDude]

Obama reeks of a muslim sympathizer and socialist and guys like DeVille and others just sniff his sweet perfume. Totally comical if you ask me.

He reeks of "Muslim sympathizer" because of what his birth certificate might say? You're funny.

In case your weren't aware, our close buddies the Saudis are the biggest Muslims on the planet.

 

[fossten]

Then what do you call having and problem with a person because of their (assumed) religion?

I don't doubt that. There's probably a sizeable portion of Americans who have a problem with having a president with a Negro background. Simply because there are "X" amount who feel that way, doesn't make it reasonable, does it?

I call it a healthy fear of those who would destroy us. Here's the problem with your attempt to generalize - it's not just "X" religion - it's Islam. If you understand the teachings of Islam, and I know you should because we've covered it before ad infinitum, any good imam teaches that all muslims are supposed to be on a jihad against the US. That means if you're a good muslim, you are commanded to be on a jihad. Furthermore, you might argue that not all muslims are terrorists, but at the moment all the terrorists that have been or are currently at war with the US are muslim.

You don't see Mormons or Catholics or JWs or even Wiccans trying to fly airplanes into buildings, do you?

You are deliberately burying your head in the sand rather than acknowledging the truth - that Islam itself is the problem.

 

[glanga]

I believe he has said he was a Muslim at one point and converted to Christianity long ago.

There's also the fact that he didn't choose what went on his birth certificate, the parents did.

I think being born on US soil makes one a "natural-born", I'll have to look it up. McCain was born in a US military base in Panama, yet he is "natural-born".

These are just desperate fear tactics. Instead of attacking Obama for his stances on the economy, war, foreign relations etc. etc. etc. It's "his birth certificate says he Muslim, so he MUSLIM" and "He has no right running for president, he wasn't born here!"

US bases are considered US soil, just like embassies. There was no question as to whether he is a citizen, just a bunch of useless hubbub about it caused by Obama's campaign to lessen the blow of what he'll eventually end up showing everyone.

He reeks of "Muslim sympathizer" because of what his birth certificate might say? You're funny.

In case your weren't aware, our close buddies the Saudis are the biggest Muslims on the planet.

Or because he studied in a Muslim school for 2 years and has close Muslim family members.

and there is only one reason the Saudi's are our "buddies" and it sure as hell isn't because they want to run for our presidency.

 

[TheDude]

I call it a healthy fear of those who would destroy us. Here's the problem with your attempt to generalize - it's not just "X" religion - it's Islam. If you understand the teachings of Islam, and I know you should because we've covered it before ad infinitum, any good imam teaches that all muslims are supposed to be on a jihad against the US. That means if you're a good muslim, you are commanded to be on a jihad. Furthermore, you might argue that not all muslims are terrorists, but at the moment all the terrorists that have been or are currently at war with the US are muslim.

You don't see Mormons or Catholics or JWs or even Wiccans trying to fly airplanes into buildings, do you?

You are deliberately burying your head in the sand rather than acknowledging the truth - that Islam itself is the problem.

"America" isn't listed in the Qur'an, so its highly subjective who the Muslims should be jihading against, "The Great Satan" and whatnot.. I also highly doubt that Obama (let's pretend he's a Muslim as fact) has an imam whispering anti-American slander in his ear.

I also don't see a vast majority (or any?) of Muslim Americans, which there is a sizeable amount, trying to bomb pre-schools or shoot up shopping malls. Odd that, don't you think, if they're supposed to destroy America to be a "good Muslim"?

You're generalization with your "Islam is the problem" absolute statement; facets of Islam are a problem.

 

[TheDude]

US bases are considered US soil, just like embassies. There was no question as to whether he is a citizen, just a bunch of useless hubbub about it caused by Obama's campaign to lessen the blow of what he'll eventually end up showing everyone.

Or because he studied in a Muslim school for 2 years and has close Muslim family members.

and there is only one reason the Saudi's are our "buddies" and it sure as hell isn't because they want to run for our presidency.

I never questioned McCain's status. I was pointing out that if McCain born outside of the US, yet born on a US base is an American, then a person born on US soil is also an American, even Hawaii. It's really just a foolish tactic that is being used against him. "He's not American!"

I would think his converting to Christianity would supercede his two years of study in Islam. Having Muslim family members is irrelevant in regards to him being a "Muslim sympathizer", ie "terrorist sympathezer". Which is what is being implied.

Yet we deal closely with the largest Islamic country, who by all accounts, funds terrorism, but Obama having been schooled in Islam in his youth for a few years and has a "un-safe name" equates to doom for America.

 

[fossten]

"America" isn't listed in the Qur'an, so its highly subjective who the Muslims should be jihading against, "The Great Satan" and whatnot..

That's got to be the dumbest thing anybody has ever said on this forum.

Are you not aware of what happened on 9/11/01? You've never heard America called The Great Satan? Who, then?

Are you not familiar with the imam muslim culture, and the fact that they are the ones who interpret the Qur'an for their followers?

Time for you to educate yourself.

 

[glanga]

Haha....America not listed in the Koran? That gave me a laugh.
So because it's not mentioned in there, I guess the Ayatollahs aren't allowed to speak of America to their people.

And no, just because he "converted" to Christianity doesn't mean he doesn't still sympathize or hold the beliefs of the Muslim religion. People have done much worse and crazier things to get elected into office. I wholeheartedly beleive he is somewhat of a "double agent." Not literally but it will definentely influence how he governs if elected and I will sure as hell bet it'll be sympathetic to the Muslim cause.

 

[TheDude]

Not one, but two of you, nice.

I said it is "subjective", ie a Muslim religious head can, if he should want to name America as the "enemey of Islam", not they have to under Islam.

 

[04SCTLS]

There's over a billion Muslims on this planet so I'll turn this around and say:
Don't you think that it's an advantage that Obama has had some exposure to and knowledge of the religion our enemies are using as a tool to fight us.
It gives him an opening in non middle east Muslim countries to help contain the radicals that McCain can not command.
He chose Christianity very early in his life instead of embracing Islam.
I've never heard of any American blacks who are muslims sympathizing with the terrorists.
Al Queda hasn't made any inroads amongst this group.

 

[fossten]

There's over a billion Muslims on this planet so I'll turn this around and say:
Don't you think that it's an advantage that Obama has had some exposure to and knowledge of the religion our enemies are using as a tool to fight us.
It gives him an opening in non middle east Muslim countries to help contain the radicals that McCain can not command.
He chose Christianity very early in his life instead of embracing Islam.
I've never heard of any American blacks who are muslims sympathizing with the terrorists.
Al Queda hasn't made any inroads amongst this group.

If what you're saying is true, then why doesn't Obama come out and publicly embrace it? Surely if you're correct, the American public would gladly vote for him en masse as he would surely be the linchpin to solving the problem of why those nice Al Qaeda people misunderstand us.

 

[MonsterMark]

He chose Christianity very early in his life instead of embracing Islam.

And for the past twenty years he has been participating in black hatred towards America, hanging out with terrorists who hate America, married a woman who hates America, and likes to get in bed with the biggest criminals in Chicago.

The great messiah.

 

[Bob Hubbard]

I just finished reading all the post in this thread, and Now, want to tell you something I heard on the Shawn Hannity show about three weeks ago.
It is no secret, there is no love lost when it comes to Hannity's feelings about Obama.
He has launched a one man campaign to see that he does not become president.
Presently he is sitting on some information that could conceivably end Obama's run for the whitehouse.
He didn't want to make it public while Hillary was running because that would have meant it would be her against McCain, and everyone knows, including Shawn Hannity, she would win the fight.
I would bet the farm, he will devulge this news after the demo convention, when Obama is the official candidate.
About three weeks ago, on his radio show, Hannity had a guest minister from Atlanta, who stated he had one thousand percent undeniable proof that Obama and that loud mouth reverend Wright,whome he later denounced, had an ongoing homosexual affair, and he (the minister from Atlanta) stated he would come forward with the proof at the approaite time.
Hannity is aware of this bombshell, and hasheld back until Obama is the official candidate.
Watch what happens after the dem convention.
Personally, I couldn't care less if he had an affair with the pope.
I don't like him, I think he is a liar, and I don't feel he has what it takes to be the leader of the strongest nation on the planet.
Bob.

 

[ketyokeinnor]

Anyone have any idea what Larry Sinclair plans to announce about Obama next week? I read he booked the National Press Club on the 18th for some news conference on the "truth about Obama".

Ron

 

[04SCTLS]

If what you're saying is true, then why doesn't Obama come out and publicly embrace it? Surely if you're correct, the American public would gladly vote for him en masse as he would surely be the linchpin to solving the problem of why those nice Al Qaeda people misunderstand us.

You're funny when you're being sarcastic.

 

[glanga]

So Obama and his minister have homo sex? Ha, yeah he gets my vote now!!!