Car stalled out in water please help

All2kool said:
Keep this in mind: Water CANNOT be compressed and when you attempt to do just that, the machine attempting to compress the water will fail, every single time.
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That's the whole point of pulling the spark plugs first.

All2kool said:
1. Probably because of an electrical failure or the inability to exhaust.
2. Sure, go with that, because water is static and doesn't seep.
3. Remove the Oil Pan, Intake and Plugs and let the engine completely dry.
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1a: reasonable, possible.

1b: there's nowhere near enough head on the water to stop the exhaust without sinking the car a few dozen feet first

3. Reasonable, but something tells me mujahid isn't about to do an oil change
 
All2kool said:
The worst case scenario isn't really a scenario at all - he has water in the engine. If he cranks the engine now, he will ruin the main bearings. My step-dad drove their Jeep into some high water a few years back. Once he was towed out, he tried to start the engine with no success. Jeep was towed to a shop where it was rendered running again. Two months later, the engine completely failed and had to be replaced. Cause: Main Bearings were shot.

Rule of thumb here: Never crank your engine if it has had water in it. Any mechanic with half a brain will tell you this.

I will also add that if you aren't a mechanic and you don't know what the effect of your advice will be, it's better to not offer any.
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Clearly you have no true understanding of how a combustion engine works... (other than what your step dad did that one time) YES just cranking a submerged car is a problem, that was not the advice given.

All2kool said:
Except of course, his engine likely died BEFORE water made it's way in. Cranking after water is in will cause the damage. His best scenario will be to have it towed to a shop where the damage can be assessed.

One of the reasons insurance companies total flood vehicles is because the expense to repair exceeds the value of the vehicle. My Mom got very lucky - her Jeep was covered under warranty. And yes, I realize that driving your Jeep into a creek until the engine dies isn't a warranty issue but the dealer never asked what happened.
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Your making assumptions on what had happened.. He did not ask how to handle a insurance company, he asked how to get it running again (or what to check)



All2kool said:
1. Probably because of an electrical failure or the inability to exhaust.
2. Sure, go with that, because water is static and doesn't seep.
3. Remove the Oil Pan, Intake and Plugs and let the engine completely dry.

Keep this in mind: Water CANNOT be compressed and when you attempt to do just that, the machine attempting to compress the water will fail, every single time.
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AGAIN advise given would not cause "water to compress"...... agreed it might be electrical, but that doesn't matter if he's seized his engine with water in it, once he determines thats NOT the case, the rest is most likely fixable..

Again, we're just seeing IF water got in, EITHER WAY, there are alot of other things to do after.. INCLUDING a drying period, oil change, etc.. none of this matters if water comes out.

THE op is rushing to get this fixed, and causing more problems IMO, but its his car.... IF he's unsure what he's doing, than a mechanic is not a bad idea, but this is just a forum, not law.

Kool, so far all your "arguments" are based off illogical agreements and "experiences of your parents". Unless you have a bit more substance to your posts, i'd suggest you hold of on commenting...
 
mujahid1994 said:
I drove into some water I didn't know it was that deep I thought i was gonna make it I charged the water dont remember how fast I was going but then I realized I was slowing down so I stepped on the gas which did nothing then my car stopped and I saw smoke coming from my engine I got out and pushed it out and when I opened the door the water didn't rush into the car the water was lower than the car when I got it out I tried to crank it nothing I tried to give it a boost still nothing the trunk was virtually dry so I popped the hood and felt the air filter it was wet so that means water was sucked up I had like 2 inches of water in my intake manifold my coils and spark plugs were wet and oily I changed my spark plugs but not the coils yet changed the oil to and air filter and oil filter put some HEET in the tank and my battery is kinda weak so I just bought a new battery haven't tried it with the new battery yet
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It seems like your rushing a bit to get it RUNNING, you really should be worred about whats damaged, than getting it running again! IF water was in intake, and plugs, and oil etc... you really should be doing a step by step on the block before worring about everything else... Turning by hand will tell you if any major components are broken, (if it turns) it place a rod in each cylinder and check to piston movement, IF all move freely and up and down, Id pull vavle covers and check cam movement and cam flats... IF all that is fine, start working on the others, starter, fuses, fluids etc.

mujahid1994 said:
Already changed the oil and filter still blogging
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blogging?

mujahid1994 said:
I had it tested they said it was bad
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Was this on the car? off the car? you sure there's power to it.

YES, you can continue to keep trying to get it running, but your risking alot more if there is a more serious problem this way... maybe you'll luck out, but a big chance your taking!


Questions I have:

What happened when you tried to jump it?, any power (lights, dash?)
did it kind of crank?
ABSOLUTELY nothing when you turned the key?

Oil milky/ watery?

checked fuses in the back?


ALL advise, hope it works out for you!
 
I took it to O'Reilly to get it tested and yea the lights and dash came on and when I turned the key it did a little something but nothing kinda hard to explain and yea oil kinda watery and how do I check a fuse??
 
G-RELL said:
Clearly you have no true understanding of how a combustion engine works... (other than what your step dad did that one time) YES just cranking a submerged car is a problem, that was not the advice given.

Your making assumptions on what had happened.. He did not ask how to handle a insurance company, he asked how to get it running again (or what to check)


AGAIN advise given would not cause "water to compress"...... agreed it might be electrical, but that doesn't matter if he's seized his engine with water in it, once he determines thats NOT the case, the rest is most likely fixable..

Again, we're just seeing IF water got in, EITHER WAY, there are alot of other things to do after.. INCLUDING a drying period, oil change, etc.. none of this matters if water comes out.

THE op is rushing to get this fixed, and causing more problems IMO, but its his car.... IF he's unsure what he's doing, than a mechanic is not a bad idea, but this is just a forum, not law.

Kool, so far all your "arguments" are based off illogical agreements and "experiences of your parents". Unless you have a bit more substance to your posts, i'd suggest you hold of on commenting...
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Be sure to send the OP a blank check to cover the damage he may cause when he takes your advice. He said he 'drove into some water'; he never said he drove out of some water. Sure, I made the assumption that the engine died while he was driving in the water and that turned out to be correct (not that you need a degree in anything to have made that assumption).

As for having 'no true understanding of how a combustion engine works', I have forgotten more about engines than you will ever learn. I will follow this thread to see how this all turns out but I won't be commenting any further because sometimes, actually most times, you just can't fix stupid.
 
G-RELL said:
Clearly you have no true understanding of how a combustion engine works... (other than what your step dad did that one time) YES just cranking a submerged car is a problem, that was not the advice given...
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Not much good can come out of arguing with a fool...


Maybe it's time to just sit back and see how this plays out.
 
Yes you can... but we're discussing some fairly advanced things..if your not understanding what's being discussed. You should probably have someone take a look at it.
 
mujahid1994 said:
So turn the key without spark plugs?? Yes or no
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Yes, but you really, really should turn the crankshaft by hand first. You have tools to change out a starter, and you could go buy a starter, but you can't buy a socket to fit the damper pulley center bolt?

Franky, it looks pretty bad for you if there really was water in the oil. Despite some theories, if your engine wasn't leaking out oil at a high rate, then water didn't just seep in through the block/oil pan/gaskets. Either the water went over the top of the engine (all your electronics should be toast), or it came in from the intake and made it to the crankcase via the PCV system and/or damaged pistons. Let's hope you are the 1 in a hundred exception here.
 
mujahid1994 said:
I took it to O'Reilly to get it tested and yea the lights and dash came on and when I turned the key it did a little something but nothing kinda hard to explain and yea oil kinda watery and how do I check a fuse??
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mujahid1994 said:
Ima take it to the shop
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This LS of yours sure gets around while not running, did you push it there, like you did out of the water? I'm impressed to say the least.




G ~ stop arguing with the know-it-all new-comers, you'll lose every time! They've been at this a while longer then the rest of us, don't you know!
 
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