Congratulations, Democrats

I've got news for you, Joey:

The only ones keeping Bush's amnesty bill from becoming law were the House Republicans. And now they're gone. So much for a balance of power.

You'd better start learning Spanish.
 
fossten said:
I've got news for you, Joey:

The only ones keeping Bush's amnesty bill from becoming law were the House Republicans. And now they're gone. So much for a balance of power.

You'd better start learning Spanish.
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Actually, Ive refused. I spend 20+ years in the restaurant business, and I refused to learn spanish. Wanna work for me? Learn english.

And the fact that it was Bush's Amnesty Bill - Doesnt that tell you something?
 
fossten said:
I just checked the Missouri race and it looks like so far almost half a million people in that state want Michael J. Fox to remain sick.

What a large number of heartless people there must be in that state.
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Can you eat your words? We voted in record numbers. We elected a Dem to the Senate, Voted for Stem cell research and voted no on $.80 cent a pack tax. Oh, and we voted to raise the minuim wage.

It seem that the "heartless" people in my state voted for change.
 
bufordtpisser said:
It tells us that term limits are very much overdue. There should never be anyone in a public office that wields more power than the people who put them there. Two terms and you are out. No more career politicians. Take away the perks and people will server because they want to make a difference, not because they want to sponge off of the American public for the rest of their lives.
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Let me take this rare opportunity to agree with you and say AMEN BROTHER!
 
FreeFaller said:
I hope for nothing but the best for this country. I have more love for it than many could possibly understand. With the votes being counted and the Democratic takeover of the House (possibly the Senate) I can only say one thing to them. Congratulations and Good Luck. Do what your constituents think is best for the country and leave her a better place than you found it. You've talked the talk...now we'll see if you can walk the walk.
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Steve Well spoken....

Even though I doubt any of our two group the Dems or the Reps. will do any better.. I believe it is wrong to have the government controlled by one party.

I'm sorry to say but anyway you cut it 66% of the population is moderate. You have to work with both sides to make the country work. And if something is broke then it needs to be fixed. I don't know if we will see the fixing done, but maybe both parties will make the move to the middle where this nation needs to be. Two groups working together.

A House Divided Can not Stand! This doesn't mean we have to accept one side or the other to be united it means we have to unite both sides. We have to move to the middle.

This is what I feel is lost in Washington..

These last few years there has been no body watching what is happening in Washington, but the vote on tuesday said the people have been and are tired of what has been happening. Maybe more work done now that the two parties will have to work together, that's if they work together...
 
pbslmo said:
Can you eat your words? We voted in record numbers. We elected a Dem to the Senate, Voted for Stem cell research and voted no on $.80 cent a pack tax. Oh, and we voted to raise the minuim wage.

It seem that the "heartless" people in my state voted for change.
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Can you be more of an idiot? I was sarcastically referring to the people who had voted AGAINST the amendment up to that point.

(Throws up hands in disgust at total ignorance of lib)
 
fossten said:
Can you be more of an idiot? I was sarcastically referring to the people who had voted AGAINST the amendment up to that point.

(Throws up hands in disgust at total ignorance of lib)
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Oh, my appoligies to you Fossten. Your most recent postings prior to the election were so laden with sarcassim that I honestly thought of you as a pompus butt-head. But, I guess your not. Now that the elections are over, can we all just get along? :)
 
One down, one to go.......

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15620405/

Democrats edge closer to control of Senate
GOP incumbent ousted in Mont.; Democrats claim victory in Va. race
BREAKING NEWS
NBC, MSNBC and news services
Updated: 3 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - The battle for the Senate hung on a single race after Democrats picked up a seat in Montana, defeating incumbent Republican Sen. Conrad Burns, NBC News reported Wednesday.

Burns lost his job in a squeaker of a race, thrust from office due to his own gaffes, his ties with convicted lobbyist Jack Abramoff and a determined campaign by Democrat Jon Tester.

Tester’s race against GOP incumbent Burns was delayed by equipment glitches, a heavy turnout and the narrowness of his lead — fewer than 2,000 votes.

Democrats seized on their candidate’s lead in Virginia to claim victory — and control of the Senate, though a potential recount could further lengthen the suspense.

In Virginia, Jim Webb claimed victory — with an edge of fewer than 8,000 votes — over Republican incumbent Sen. George Allen.

With 99 percent of precincts reporting, Webb had 1,170,564 votes, or 49.6 percent, to Allen’s 1,162,717, or 49.3 percent.

A final count, including all absentee ballots, was expected later Wednesday.

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Republicans had no leadership in congress or the senate (no Gingrich to rally 'round). The only leadership they had was from a moderate like Dubya. The result, Republicans look ineffective and have to become "moderate" to get anything done. The best example is the Immigration issue. They had to either support Dubya's bonehead amnesty program, or do what a true conservative would do (and what the base wanted) and go against it. Washington has been spending like a drunken sailor too, making them seem like the party of "big government". True conservativatism works and wins. Half-@$$ed conservatism doesn't. Liberalism didn't win this election, the Dems that won in close races did so by being moderate, and attacking republicans. No agenda of their own was offered. Now we we see the true face of liberalism.
 
shagdrum said:
Republicans had no leadership in congress or the senate (no Gingrich to rally 'round). The only leadership they had was from a moderate like Dubya.
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Worse yet- Hassert and Frist. And thankfully, they're soon out of the leadership.

True conservativatism works and wins. Half-@$$ed conservatism doesn't. Liberalism didn't win this election, the Dems that won in close races did so by being moderate, and attacking republicans. No agenda of their own was offered. Now we we see the true face of liberalism.
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There is some concern when guys like Santorum were defeated. But otherwise, you're right. Liberalism didn't win. The margins of the victory were razor thin. But more importantly, most of the Democrat victories were done with conservative Democrats.

Two quick examples- if Webb beats Allen, Webb worked in the Reagan administration.

Local, I'm in the FLorida 13th district, past home of Katherine Harris. The Republican beat the Democrat here by just three hundred some votes (now we're engaged in the recount ect.) But he was running against a business woman who was had recently changed parties to become a Democrat.

Ned Lamont was defeated by Lieberman.

And despite having a half century to do something before, the Democrats have two years to put up or shut up. It gives the Republicans a much needed break to regroup, and it means the Liberals can no longer make fake outrage and issue baseless charges.
 
I would call it bad strategy for Rumsfeld to resign after the election. He should have resigned at least 2 months before the election.

It's clear that a majority of Americans want to see a quicker end to the War and our troops to come home. Much of the slow going in Iraq is due to the lack of resolve to hold steadfast to principles of non-tolerance for terrorists. For example, non-government militias should not be permitted to organize. One of the biggest mistakes, in my opinion, is that Muqtada al-Sadr is being allowed to foment trouble and permitted to organize a militia. We should have taken him and his militia out a long time ago. In fact, I would insists that al-Sadr will not be permitted to continue to foment trouble regardless of what the goverment says. Moreover, I would have put his lackeys on notice as well by a dropping a bomb or two in the middle of one of their little pep-rallies. On a number of occasions many of his followers gathered with weapons in arm. I would have treated those with weapons to be part of his militia and would have taken swift action to eliminate them. Make no mistake al-Sadr is not part of the solution; he is part of the problem.

Therefore, my first recommendation as Secretary of Defense would be to take al-Sadr out immediately.
 
pbslmo said:
Now that the elections are over, can we all just get along? :)
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In this forum that will only happen when, the second coming of JESUS happens. :D
 
pepperman said:
In this forum that will only happen when, the second coming of JESUS happens. :D
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Awwww - we're all good friends - just a little spirited :D
 
The one thing I hope the Dems realize is that this is no more of a "mandate" than Bush's 2004 win was a mandate. As much as I'd LOVE to see Bush and Cheney impeached and sent to prison, it would do far more harm to the country than good. Better to work with the SOB than fight him. I think the Dems are on that track, but we'll see what happens.
 
mespock said:
Steve Well spoken....


A House Divided Can not Stand! This doesn't mean we have to accept one side or the other to be united it means we have to unite both sides. We have to move to the middle.

This is what I feel is lost in Washington..
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I agree. BUT. When the Repbulicans were in the minority, they DID work with the Democrats, at least to a degree. But the Democrat have only obstructed thru the whole 6 years of President Bush's presidency

So I guess when the DEMOCRATS have the majority we should kneel and work toghether. But they arent held to the same standard eh?

What a load of crap.
 
fossten said:
Except for possibly Jimmy Carter, no presidency is a complete failure,
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But Carter did broker a peace deal between Sadat (Egypt) and Begin (Israel) that stands to this day. Do you consider that a failure?

I mean..some people would consider Bush a complete failure, but imagine if he brokered a peace deal between Israel and Iran...you guys would build statues of Bush for years to come!!
 
RRocket said:
But Carter did broker a peace deal between Sadat (Egypt) and Begin (Israel) that stands to this day. Do you consider that a failure?
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Carter's involvement in that "peace deal" is greatly overstated. Egypt needed to sign that peace treaty because they could no longer afford the constant state of war they had been responsible for.

And mind you, that peace deal eventually cost Sadat his life. The Muslim Brotherhood killed him. And- the Muslim Brotherhood spawned Hamas, which continues to attack Israel from Gaza.

I mean..some people would consider Bush a complete failure, but imagine if he brokered a peace deal between Israel and Iran...you guys would build statues of Bush for years to come!!
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The two situations are even close to being the same. Absolutely nothing about the two situations are similar.
 
fossten said:
Looks like you guys got the House for the next two years. You moonbats should love having Nancy Pelosi as your Speaker.

I guess Robert Redford and all his cronies can move back from Canada now.

I hereby apologize in advance to the poor Iraqis on behalf of my misguided country. Now they will be left to the mercy of the Iranians, and just like in Vietnam, no other country will ever be able to trust the word of the United States as an ally again.

Looks like we'll see that immigration amnesty bill that Bush wanted, now that the Dems control the House.
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oh the agony!!!

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JLewisinSyr said:
AP is reporting VA goes to Webb so the House and Senate are now Democratic majority.
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Webb probably could have been elected had he run as a Republican...
If it weren't a matter of control of the Senate, I'd even consider voting for Webb, given what I know about him.
 
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