Custom LS vs. 2 CTS-V at One Lap of America Event

Round 9 - Las Vegas #1

1 2 Dodge Viper SSGT1 BB 5:31.034 410
David Zelkowski, Brian Smith
2 4 Porsche 996 TT SSGT1 BB 5:32.299 405
Mark DaVia, Drew Wikstrom
3 1 Dodge Ram 1500 S U V 5:38.932 400
Ronald Adee, patrick adee
4 3 Porsche 911 GT3 SSGT1 BB 5:39.699 395
David Murry, Royal Ford
5 49 Mitsubishi Evo MidPri Sed 5:40.610 390
Paul Gerrard,


15 43 Cadillac CTS-V Luxury Sed 6:01.571 340
John Bender, Reed Kryder

34 44 Cadillic CTS-V Luxury Sed 6:31.669 245
Reg Noble, Vic Regalado, Bill Unwin

37 59 Lincoln LS MidPri Sed 6:34.447 230
Chet Dhruna, Matthew List, Jaime Venezia
 
Round 10 - Las Vegas #2

1 2 Dodge Viper SSGT1 BB 5:30.548 410
David Zelkowski, Brian Smith
2 4 Porsche 996 TT SSGT1 BB 5:31.153 405
Mark DaVia, Drew Wikstrom
3 3 Porsche 911 GT3 SSGT1 BB 5:38.347 400
David Murry, Royal Ford
4 1 Dodge Ram 1500 S U V 5:40.883 395
Ronald Adee, patrick adee
5 49 Mitsubishi Evo MidPri Sed 5:41.624 390
Paul Gerrard,



14 43 Cadillac CTS-V Luxury Sed 6:06.003 345
John Bender, Reed Kryder

32 44 Cadillic CTS-V Luxury Sed 6:26.974 255
Reg Noble, Vic Regalado, Bill Unwin

39 59 Lincoln LS MidPri Sed 6:32.054 220
Chet Dhruna, Matthew List, Jaime Venezia


Where they are at this point in the over-all point standings so far(out of 82 cars):

20 43 Cadillac CTS-V Luxury Sed 3030 <--- #4 in it's class (behind 2 M5s and an Audi)
John Bender, Reed Kryder

33 44 Cadillic CTS-V Luxury Sed 2370
Reg Noble, Vic Regalado, Bill Unwin

66 59 Lincoln LS MidPri Sed 1330
Chet Dhruna, Matthew List, Jaime Venezia
 
Round 11 - Pueblo #1

1 4 Porsche 996 TT SSGT1 BB 5:13.814 410
Mark DaVia, Drew Wikstrom
2 1 Dodge Ram 1500 S U V 5:15.597 405
Ronald Adee, patrick adee
3 2 Dodge Viper SSGT1 BB 5:16.135 400
David Zelkowski, Brian Smith
4 3 Porsche 911 GT3 SSGT1 BB 5:20.288 395
David Murry, Royal Ford
5 49 Mitsubishi Evo MidPri Sed 5:20.687 390
Paul Gerrard,



18 43 Cadillac CTS-V Luxury Sed 5:45.627 325
John Bender, Reed Kryder

35 44 Cadillic CTS-V Luxury Sed 6:08.093 240
Reg Noble, Vic Regalado, Bill Unwin

36 59 Lincoln LS MidPri Sed 6:09.606 235
Chet Dhruna, Matthew List, Jaime Venezia

Is that a rivalry shaping up there? :F
 
Round 12 - Pueblo #2

1 2 Dodge Viper SSGT1 BB 5:11.173 410
David Zelkowski, Brian Smith
2 4 Porsche 996 TT SSGT1 BB 5:13.688 405
Mark DaVia, Drew Wikstrom
3 1 Dodge Ram 1500 S U V 5:14.690 400
Ronald Adee, patrick adee
4 3 Porsche 911 GT3 SSGT1 BB 5:17.696 395
David Murry, Royal Ford
5 49 Mitsubishi Evo MidPri Sed 5:18.910 390
Paul Gerrard,




16 43 Cadillac CTS-V Luxury Sed 5:41.749 335
John Bender, Reed Kryder

31 59 Lincoln LS MidPri Sed 5:58.914 260
Chet Dhruna, Matthew List, Jaime Venezia :steering

39 44 Cadillic CTS-V Luxury Sed 6:06.041 220
Reg Noble, Vic Regalado, Bill Unwin :Bang
 
Round 13 - Hallett #1 Time Trial

1 4 Porsche 996 TT SSGT1 BB 4:15.241 410
Mark DaVia, Drew Wikstrom
2 2 Dodge Viper SSGT1 BB 4:21.956 405
David Zelkowski, Brian Smith
3 1 Dodge Ram 1500 S U V 4:22.052 400
Ronald Adee, patrick adee
4 3 Porsche 911 GT3 SSGT1 BB 4:26.442 395
David Murry, Royal Ford
5 49 Mitsubishi Evo MidPri Sed 4:26.752 390
Paul Gerrard,





15 43 Cadillac CTS-V Luxury Sed 4:44.021 340
John Bender, Reed Kryder

33 59 Lincoln LS MidPri Sed 4:58.301 250
Chet Dhruna, Matthew List, Jaime Venezia

41 44 Cadillic CTS-V Luxury Sed 5:08.829 210
Reg Noble, Vic Regalado, Bill Unwin :Bang

It would almost be better for car #44 to drop out than to allow this humiliation to continue... :N
 
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Round 14 - Hallett #2 Time Trial

1 2 Dodge Viper SSGT1 BB 4:22.501 410
David Zelkowski, Brian Smith
2 4 Porsche 996 TT SSGT1 BB 4:26.228 405
Mark DaVia, Drew Wikstrom
3 1 Dodge Ram 1500 S U V 4:26.939 400
Ronald Adee, patrick adee
4 3 Porsche 911 GT3 SSGT1 BB 4:30.205 395
David Murry, Royal Ford
5 49 Mitsubishi Evo MidPri Sed 4:31.596 390
Paul Gerrard,




14 43 Cadillac CTS-V Luxury Sed 4:47.051 345
John Bender, Reed Kryder

These guys seem to stay right around that ranking pretty steadily. :Beer

27 59 Lincoln LS MidPri Sed 5:01.659 280
Chet Dhruna, Matthew List, Jaime Venezia

31 44 Cadillic CTS-V Luxury Sed 5:05.304 260
Reg Noble, Vic Regalado, Bill Unwin :Bang <----- head starting to hurt
Okay, you two can stop playing around with that LS anytime now...
 
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Round 15 - Road America #1

1 4 Porsche 996 TT SSGT1 BB 7:59.707 410
Mark DaVia, Drew Wikstrom
2 2 Dodge Viper SSGT1 BB 8:02.527 405
David Zelkowski, Brian Smith
3 8 Chevy Z06 SSGT1 BB 8:04.883 400
Rodney Sizemore, Rick Sizemore
4 3 Porsche 911 GT3 SSGT1 BB 8:11.316 395
David Murry, Royal Ford
5 1 Dodge Ram 1500 S U V 8:14.374 390
Ronald Adee, patrick adee


Ours:

14 43 Cadillac CTS-V Luxury Sed 8:44.379 345
John Bender, Reed Kryder

26 44 Cadillic CTS-V Luxury Sed 9:16.080 285
Reg Noble, Vic Regalado, Bill Unwin

38 59 Lincoln LS MidPri Sed 9:28.994 225
Chet Dhruna, Matthew List, Jaime Venezia :F

I guess I can recall the hitmen now... Car #44 has been granted a reprieve.
 
Round 16 - Road America #2

1 2 Dodge Viper SSGT1 BB 7:51.266 410
David Zelkowski, Brian Smith
2 4 Porsche 996 TT SSGT1 BB 7:58.559 405
Mark DaVia, Drew Wikstrom
3 1 Dodge Ram 1500 S U V 7:58.893 400
Ronald Adee, patrick adee
4 8 Chevy Z06 SSGT1 BB 8:01.055 395
Rodney Sizemore, Rick Sizemore
5 3 Porsche 911 GT3 SSGT1 BB 8:04.001 390
David Murry, Royal Ford

I must say, these are some impressive cars here at the top (including that 'Formula One1500' ;) ). I really would to have liked to see stock versions competing better though... Why must every series allow modifications? I want real-world cars, dammit!

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On to the ones that matter:

What happened here?! Rank 54 for the #43 car?! :eek:

27 44 Cadillic CTS-V Luxury Sed 9:16.408 280
Reg Noble, Vic Regalado, Bill Unwin

54 43 Cadillac CTS-V Luxury Sed 10:02.488 145
John Bender, Reed Kryder

60 59 Lincoln LS MidPri Sed 10:26.871 115
Chet Dhruna, Matthew List, Jaime Venezia
 
Gothicaleigh said:
Round 15 - Road America #1

1 4 Porsche 996 TT SSGT1 BB 7:59.707 410
Mark DaVia, Drew Wikstrom
2 2 Dodge Viper SSGT1 BB 8:02.527 405
David Zelkowski, Brian Smith
3 8 Chevy Z06 SSGT1 BB 8:04.883 400
Rodney Sizemore, Rick Sizemore
4 3 Porsche 911 GT3 SSGT1 BB 8:11.316 395
David Murry, Royal Ford
5 1 Dodge Ram 1500 S U V 8:14.374 390
Ronald Adee, patrick adee


Ours:

14 43 Cadillac CTS-V Luxury Sed 8:44.379 345
John Bender, Reed Kryder

26 44 Cadillic CTS-V Luxury Sed 9:16.080 285
Reg Noble, Vic Regalado, Bill Unwin

38 59 Lincoln LS MidPri Sed 9:28.994 225
Chet Dhruna, Matthew List, Jaime Venezia :F

I guess I can recall the hitmen now... Car #44 has been granted a reprieve.
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I guess the Lincoln team has learned a valuable lesson. Finish no matter what. Had they not missed three events they would easily been ahead if not neck and neck with the CTS's. The LS is strong and running good. They fixed their cooling problem after they blew the first engine. They were running a radiator too small for the 4.6L monster. This is good stuff for Lincoln. It's getting a lot of press especially on Ford's main website and Lincoln Vehicles main site. Also, these guys haven't had sleep for three days so I bet they are slowing down but they are definitely doing a great job.

Go TEAM LS!
 
The results nearing the end of the series:

Luxury Sed Cumulative Class Points as of Fri May 07 15:50:55 2004
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Results sorted by position
Pos Car # Vehicle Class Pts O/A Pts

1 14 BMW M5 620 5655
Roy Hopkins, Adrienne Hughes, Nancy Becker
2 43 Cadillac CTS-V 445 4865
John Bender, Reed Kryder
3 47 BMW M5 445 5130
Chad Milliman, Mark Reuter, Rick Shopp
4 42 Audi S-4 430 4595
Norman Bab, Michael Bab
5 17 Mercedes E55 AMG 400 4915
Tony Swan, Mary Seelhorst, Jim McCraw
6 44 Cadillic CTS-V 245 3865
Reg Noble, Vic Regalado, Bill Unwin
7 45 Audi S4 230 3550
J.D. King, John King
8 46 Mercedes S55 Kompressor 75 1205
Jim McClelland, Carter McClelland

:C



MidPri Sed Cumulative Class Points as of Fri May 07 15:50:55 2004
Page 1
Results sorted by position
Pos Car # Vehicle Class Pts O/A Pts

1 49 Mitsubishi Evo 1280 5955
Paul Gerrard,
2 39 Subaru WRX 1280 5915
Blake Fuller, Peter Fuller
3 55 Subaru Praxis Systems 1150 5270
Enrique Ramirez, Michael Potter, Shawn Meze
4 53 Subaru Praxis Systems 1015 4640
Andrew Firestone, Adam Firestone
5 58 Infinity G35X 955 4170
Dan Schaut, Stan Milam
6 51 Volvo 740 Sedan 725 3235
William Cook, Mike Hurst, Jon Dega
7 52 BMW 318i 710 3155
Bill Arnold, Tamara Hull, Derek Arnold
8 73 subaru WRX 695 2795
Benjamin Lesnak, Stephen R. Lesnak
9 62 BMW 328i 685 2690
Matthew Zekauskas, Pete Zekauskas
10 56 Dodge Neon SRT4 620 2490
Dan Neal, John Cascella
11 67 Chevy Impala 620 2330
Nick Lengyel, Greg Nelis
12 59 Lincoln LS 620 2695
Chet Dhruna, Matthew List, Jaime Venezia
13 66 Chevy Caprice 490 1810
Michael Demers, Richard Wells, Jon Martin
14 57 Mitsubishi EVO 395 1660
Michael Bernauer, Michael Banks
15 69 Chevrolet Impalla SS 190 720
Howard LaFever, Mark Grzella, David Campbell
16 61 Mercedes Benz 190E 2.3-16 55 205
Michael Sokalsky, Richard A. Kessler, Eliot Sokalsky
17 50 Mercedes 190 HO 45 135
Toby Milne, Michael Curcio


:feed
 
GrayGhost1 said:
I guess the Lincoln team has learned a valuable lesson. Finish no matter what. Had they not missed three events they would easily been ahead if not neck and neck with the CTS's. The LS is strong and running good. They fixed their cooling problem after they blew the first engine. They were running a radiator too small for the 4.6L monster. This is good stuff for Lincoln. It's getting a lot of press especially on Ford's main website and Lincoln Vehicles main site. Also, these guys haven't had sleep for three days so I bet they are slowing down but they are definitely doing a great job.

Go TEAM LS!
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It had three runs that it did better than one of the V's throughout the whole season. Other than the wet skidpad and whatever happened at the second Road America event, it never came close to the #43 CTS-V. The few races it missed wouldn't have helped that dramatically, I'm afraid.

Also, I don't believe that I mentioned before, but both CTS-V's were running without being able to switch the car into competition mode(it has multiple performance settings). This may explain the lack-luster 1/4 mile and track times.
 
Gothicaleigh said:
It had three runs that it did better than one of the V's throughout the whole season. Other than the wet skidpad and whatever happened at the second Road America event, it never came close to the #43 CTS-V. The few races it missed wouldn't have helped that dramatically, I'm afraid.

Also, I don't believe that I mentioned before, but both CTS-V's were running without being able to switch the car into competition mode(it has multiple performance settings). This may explain the lack-luster 1/4 mile and track times.
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I disagree. The CTS V is a strong car but it's hard to go head to head when Team LS didn't run for three events. Also, it's a time event anyway so track conditions can vary instantly. Have you seen the in board video feed from the LLSOC Mirror site? This will show the track conditions that the LS faced. I don't know what it was like for the CTS Teams. Also, the CTS teams have professional drivers if I'm not mistaken. The LS team has three Ford engineers driving. Experience is the key to this format of racing.
 
Just to interject -


THIS is EXACTLY the kind of posting I was hoping for when I created this site!!!!!!!

BRAVO GUYS (and girl) !!!
 
Joeychgo said:
Just to interject -


THIS is EXACTLY the kind of posting I was hoping for when I created this site!!!!!!!

BRAVO GUYS (and girl) !!!
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It's a good topic but just trying to point out that it's apples and oranges in comparison.

Rock on! :give
 
Final Event - Round 17 - Dry Skid Pad

1 8 Chevy Z06 SSGT1 BB 1.075 G 410
Rodney Sizemore, Rick Sizemore
2 25 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 SSGT1 BB 1.059 G 405
Dan Corcoran, Kyle Corcoran
3 4 Porsche 996 TT SSGT1 BB 1.056 G 400
Mark DaVia, Drew Wikstrom
4 2 Dodge Viper SSGT1 BB 1.042 G 395
David Zelkowski, Brian Smith
5 3 Porsche 911 GT3 SSGT1 BB 1.034 G 390
David Murry, Royal Ford







16 59 Lincoln LS MidPri Sed 0.953 G 335
Chet Dhruna, Matthew List, Jaime Venezia

22 43 Cadillac CTS-V Luxury Sed 0.941 G 305
John Bender, Reed Kryder

40 44 Cadillic CTS-V Luxury Sed 0.890 G 215
Reg Noble, Vic Regalado, Bill Unwin






Final Standings:

17 43 Cadillac CTS-V Luxury Sed 5170
John Bender, Reed Kryder

33 44 Cadillic CTS-V Luxury Sed 4080
Reg Noble, Vic Regalado, Bill Unwin

49 59 Lincoln LS MidPri Sed 3030
Chet Dhruna, Matthew List, Jaime Venezia
 
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GrayGhost1 said:
I disagree. The CTS V is a strong car but it's hard to go head to head when Team LS didn't run for three events.
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If you take away the CTS-V's scores from the 3 events that the LS missed (so you're only looking at the events they all competed in), the point totals are:

4345 - #43 CTS-V

3450 - #44 CTS-V

3030 - #59 LS

It was still beat by 2 cars that were closer to stock and who could not shift into competition mode. :p

:V


I do agree with you that they are not in the same class though. ;)
 
The 43 V was a Mallett car... the 44 closer to stock

Gothicaleigh... I know your handle must mean something?

I went to one of the races and I know that the boys were trying to "save" the equipment...(they didnt want to blow engine #2!)

I think that even though the LS placed 3rd in our little American sedan game here, it sure was fun and I do believe that the LS platform with the aid of a manual trans next time around (I hope) could give the Vs even more competition.

Moreover I REALLY wish this OLOA experience will convince Ford LM to BUILD THE DAMN CAR!!!! They can't let Cadillac have ALL the fun :)
:V
 
ok maybe a dumb question but what exactly is this race about. do they actuall y go across america. what consist in the race. is there any where to see videos of the cars.
 
The Ford/Lincoln engineers campaigned the OLOA LS for 04 and 05 seasons. The course changes every year. The LLSOC helped finance and promote the team. It was GREAT fun while it lasted!
http://www.onelapofamerica.com/

Somewhere between March and August 06 the last LS will be built.

What could have been a great start for Lincoln was squandered because management just did not get it...and they STILL don't!
They would not keep developing the car.

I still get folks asking me what that cool car is I'm driving!
They spent and are STILL spending huge on their money-losing european brands.

Jaguar= Georgeous = money down the drain.... and it affects the whole Ford product line.

The Mustang is the ONLY winner... SUVs are on their asses and they have to build 3 rebadged Mazdas in Mexico for crying out loud!

Am I crazy? Or is Ford management crazy??
 
Hi Ken,

I'm originally from Suburban Detroit and it really sickens me to see these developments!

How's the LS parts biz going?
 
funkcity said:
Hi Ken,

I'm originally from Suburban Detroit and it really sickens me to see these developments!

How's the LS parts biz going?
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Doing pretty good. Just working away at it. Good to see you here!
 
funkcity said:
Jaguar= Georgeous = money down the drain.... and it affects the whole Ford product line.
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Yeah, shame on Ford, wasting all that money on a company that's a leader in building aluminum-intensive vehicles. If they'd never bought Jaguar, we wouldn't have to worry about this forum, because the LS wouldn't exist as we know it. From its Jaguar AJ-V8-derived V8 to its aluminum skin to its suspension, the DEW-98 cars had not-insignificant design input from Jaguar. What a horrible investment. :waving:

funkcity said:
The Mustang is the ONLY winner...
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Umm, have you looked at the F-series Trucks lately? For the last, oh, twenty years or so? Those aren't exactly money losers.
 
Big trucks and big SUVs have all been hit hard recently.

I found that we could tow a 4500 lb boat and all kinds of stuff through the mountains of California with a Honda Pilot! We get double the mileage of our old Suburban... and around town it is much more livable and much more affordable to run and own!,,,Go figure?!?

The Lincoln folks had a contract with a Michigan manufacturer to handle the aluminum body work on the LS hood, front fenders and trunklid. Lincoln used aluminum before Jaguar did.

The all-aluminum XJ came later..... But it still looked the same as the OLD model!! What were they thinking??:eek:
 
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