Didn't see this one coming....

Look for the loctite glue, I forget what # it is but it comes in a small yellow bottle that's like 25 bucks but I can guarantee you it won't fall again. My buddies side mirrors on his focus are glued on with it. 4 Drops and you can rest on the mirror it's nuts!
 
See! Back in the 80s we used to use those 5 element mirror bars that stretched across the cockpit because our 5.0s could accelerate so fast that the factory mirrors would just fly off back toward the back seat. LOL
 
Robot said:
See! Back in the 80s we used to use those 5 element mirror bars that stretched across the cockpit because our 5.0s could accelerate so fast that the factory mirrors would just fly off back toward the back seat. LOL
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To bad it didn't fly off and smash you in the face.
 
fastmark1993 said:
Look for the loctite glue, I forget what # it is but it comes in a small yellow bottle that's like 25 bucks but I can guarantee you it won't fall again. My buddies side mirrors on his focus are glued on with it. 4 Drops and you can rest on the mirror it's nuts!
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That's what we use at the shop, think it's Loctite 241. There's also a primer in a little spray can that you need. Spray primer on back of mirror bracket and on the spot on the windshield yer gonna stick it, let dry 5 seconds or so (dries quick), 2 drops of the Loctite on the back of the mirror bracket, press it on and hold it rock solid for about 20 seconds. Done.
 
All we need now is for laser to chime in.....

Lets stay on track.
 
I think there are parts that should be replaced based on time of exposure to the elements especially the Sun.
 
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sbcaprice305 said:
Thanks for the heads up. I won't be using them.
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The Safelite guys make 8 bucks an hour. That pretty much says it all.
I don't get outta bed for 8 bucks an hour.

Question: Would it be wise of me to remove the a pillar panels and dash cover? If I can prevent damage/broken clips to interiour parts from a rushed installer i'll pull them out myself. One more thing, do they mind if you watch?
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Probably not a bad idea, especially since such parts can be hard to find for our cars. And stuff *can* happen, just like in any type of work. Slip of the extractor and ya got a nerf somewhere. Better safe than sorry.
As for watching, a lot of shops won't let customers into the shop area for insurance reasons (I mean, there are crates and sheets of flat glass standing around). Folks come into our shop all the time, and watch me work on their stuff. Doesn't bother me at all (they even ASK me sometimes if it bothers me, I shrug and say "no, of course not"). They're just interested, because glass is an almost esoteric field for most people.
Of course, other people are different, and some are fed up with the hand-wringing know-it-all type customers that are part of dealing with the public, and as a result won't let any customers anywhere near them while they're working.
 
Joeychgo said:
Why would you say something like that? Knock it off... If you cant be civil to other members, you can leave....
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Because maybe it would shut the damn Robot up. I'm tired of reading his bullchit postings. Anyone else? :shifty:
 
fastmark1993 said:
Look for the loctite glue, I forget what # it is but it comes in a small yellow bottle that's like 25 bucks but I can guarantee you it won't fall again. My buddies side mirrors on his focus are glued on with it. 4 Drops and you can rest on the mirror it's nuts!
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Actually, don't even waste 25 bucks on stuff you'll probably use 2 drops of one time.

Every glass shop I've worked at will glue the mirror bracket back on the glass for you for free. Takes 5 minutes, it's a courtesy thing. It's hoping that when you need a new windshield or have a broken window or whatever that you'll remember who treated you right.

Little things like that, and the customer asks me "What do I owe you?" I just smile at them and say "Break something expensive." :D
 
kaha said:
The Safelite guys make 8 bucks an hour. That pretty much says it all.
I don't get outta bed for 8 bucks an hour.



Probably not a bad idea, especially since such parts can be hard to find for our cars. And stuff *can* happen, just like in any type of work. Slip of the extractor and ya got a nerf somewhere. Better safe than sorry.
As for watching, a lot of shops won't let customers into the shop area for insurance reasons (I mean, there are crates and sheets of flat glass standing around). Folks come into our shop all the time, and watch me work on their stuff. Doesn't bother me at all (they even ASK me sometimes if it bothers me, I shrug and say "no, of course not"). They're just interested, because glass is an almost esoteric field for most people.
Of course, other people are different, and some are fed up with the hand-wringing know-it-all type customers that are part of dealing with the public, and as a result won't let any customers anywhere near them while they're working.
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Thanks for the tips. The company I'll be using is going to do it at my house("Free"). I guess they'd really have no say in the matter if I did want to watch, but still, courtesy type thing. I tend to work better when left alone.

Would the quality of a "We'll come to you" service be worse then taking it to the shop? Sorry, but this is the first piece of glass i've ever had to replace. The noobage is seeping through my pours.
 
sbcaprice305 said:
Thanks for the tips. The company I'll be using is going to do it at my house("Free"). I guess they'd really have no say in the matter if I did want to watch, but still, courtesy type thing. I tend to work better when left alone.

Would the quality of a "We'll come to you" service be worse then taking it to the shop? Sorry, but this is the first piece of glass i've ever had to replace. The noobage is seeping through my pours.
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I wouldn't think you'd get poor quality because its at your house..all ya need is an electrical outlet..unless he's gonna use a battery pack saw.
If it we ME, I'd go ahead and remove the Hood and wiper cowl myself
 
sbcaprice305 said:
Would the quality of a "We'll come to you" service be worse then taking it to the shop? Sorry, but this is the first piece of glass i've ever had to replace. The noobage is seeping through my pours.
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Not necessarily. There are mobile outfits that do great work and glass shops that do crappy work. Our main auto glass tech keeps up with new developments through a trade magazine and is absolutely anal about his work. And he worked for a mobile outfit for years before working with us.

Any shop that has a good reputation should do a good job. Talk to friends and neighbors.
 
kaha said:
No, the bracket will already be on the new windshield and shouldn't fall off. And in all my years I've never heard of a stereo knocking off the rearview. There had to be something else up there.
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It's the truth, this happened to me in my car too and I only have about 1500 watts rms. I just glued the small chip back in and it's been fine. this happens usually when the actual rearview unit is wobbly on it's mount or the slide mount is loose, the vibration causes it to put a heavier load on the glass and when it's safety glass.... :rolleyes:
 
I've had many mirrors fall off because of stereo installs..it happens
 
Big Mike said:
It's the truth, this happened to me in my car too and I only have about 1500 watts rms. I just glued the small chip back in and it's been fine. this happens usually when the actual rearview unit is wobbly on it's mount or the slide mount is loose, the vibration causes it to put a heavier load on the glass and when it's safety glass.... :rolleyes:
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The way it is in the picture is the way it was when it fell. The tab can't go on any further and I needed to give it a tap tap with a hammer to remove it.

Does the mirror portion where it mounts to the tab look normal? Disfigured?
 
Big Mike said:
It's the truth, this happened to me in my car too and I only have about 1500 watts rms. I just glued the small chip back in and it's been fine. this happens usually when the actual rearview unit is wobbly on it's mount or the slide mount is loose, the vibration causes it to put a heavier load on the glass and when it's safety glass.... :rolleyes:
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Sapperfire said:
I've had many mirrors fall off because of stereo installs..it happens
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I'm not doubting you guys. Just saying I've never seen it myself. Especially not taking a chunk of glass with it. I mean, subwoofers like that would be blowing all the glass outta the car and causing abnormal seismograph readings in the area.

Now, a lot of newer cars have the mirror bracket glued on with some kinda silicone-looking crap (I think to reduce the vibration issue), and they fall off if you look at em too hard. I've re-glued LOTS of them for customers (using the same Loctite compound that was mentioned above). That was just a widespread auto manufacturer glitch.

No, they didn't take any glass with them. They just weren't holding properly in the first place.

Oh yeah, and a final FYI in this thread: the glue they sell ya at parts shops to glue the mirror bracket back on is CRAP. The Loctite and primer is awesome, and better than buying some, just go to your local glass shop and they'll probably glue it back on (using that good stuff) for free. Might charge ya 5 bucks if they're greedy.
 
kaha said:
I'm not doubting you guys. Just saying I've never seen it myself. Especially not taking a chunk of glass with it. I mean, subwoofers like that would be blowing all the glass outta the car and causing abnormal seismograph readings in the area.
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kaha, you have to step back with us about 3 and 4 years ago. He was having this problem quite often. I'm sure there was also some looseness in the mirror to the bracket too at some point and then finally, he got ahold of something good that would actually hold up to not taking the mirror bracket off the glass but instead, over time, I think he weakened his glass in that one spot to the point of getting very lucky and only having that single chunk taken out. I had the same thing going on while he was too and I finally found something I thought I mixed but it was a primer that dried almost instantly and required a drop or two of glue and it held up. It wasn't $25 but was around $10 or so from what I can remember.
 
sbcaprice: Dude, by no means am I an authority on the situation, it just happened to me before too is all. That said, it looks normal to me, but mine was seemingly normal too. Way I see it, just the amount of tension on it from the factory isn't very tight, and it is a heavy mirror, so the extra torque from the vibration and the flexing of the mirror attachment slide on the metal tab with the added motion of the slightly loose slide did it in. I notice gen 2 mirrors all seem to have a slight up/down looseness when I see them in yards and in cars I've had/test drove. I'm sure in our case, having had a chunk break off, is quite rare. No doubt it doesn't happen much. The glass, in my mind, is not damaged by the music, but the constant flexing of the mount is what causes the glass harm in a concentrated area.

But as said before, just my theory about them. I'm just an audio guy and in no way qualified to make a guess.I know that music is not capable of being listened to in the first person if it is loud enough to cause damage to glass based solely on SPL, vibration is what does glass in as far as car audio.
 
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