Excessive cranking issue when cold any thoughs or suggestions appreciated

[artgod33]

Very bad advice! The coils are damaged and must be replaced.
Below shows how to test the coils. A simple resistance check won't pick up the fault. Neither will seeing that they fire most of the time.
http://www.v8sho.com/SHO/TSB 04-16-1.pdf

Also, note that if your 2004 has less than 100K miles, Ford will replace the defective ones at no charge to you.
http://www.allstatetrucks.com/Recalls/cust satisfaction recalls/07m07/R07M07 dealer bulletin.pdf

After that, the least grief thing that you can do is to go ahead and replace the rest of the coils now. Search the forum, this is a common solution to a common problem.

Sorry to hijack this but I am a new owner of a 2002 LS myself, had the guiy I bought it from just replace one coil that was oiley. If the problem is the same on the models prior to 03 why doesn't the extended warranty/ recall include them also?

 

[joegr]

Sorry to hijack this but I am a new owner of a 2002 LS myself, had the guiy I bought it from just replace one coil that was oiley. If the problem is the same on the models prior to 03 why doesn't the extended warranty/ recall include them also?

The V6s have coil issues too, and they aren't covered by the extended warranty either. Someone at Ford ran the numbers and decided which cars to cover. There's nothing that says they made the right decision.

AFAIK, the rate of coil failure on the gen I is just as bad as the gen II. The gen II does have one disadvantage though. Coil failures on the gen II can shut the throttle by wire system down. When that happens, you have to coast to a stop and stop and restart the engine before you can get enough power to go more than a few MPHs.

 

[joegr]

That's what I'm leanin towards too as when I have to excessively crank it when it starts I smell raw fuel for a few seconds is there any way to narrow down which injector could be causing this? Are they hard to swap out cause if they are not I'll pick up some remans and pop them in

I think that the only two sure ways to find a leaking injector are:
1. remove all injectors from the intake but leave them connected to the fuel rail. Pressurize and see if any of them start dripping.
2. instead of removing the injectors from the intake use a fiber-optic camera to look at the nozzles while they are installed.

Another trick that I know of is the listen to them one by one with a mechanic's stethoscope. You may be able to hear the fuel leak.

http://deneau.info/ls/s6x~us~en~file=s6x34006.htm~gen~ref.htm
http://deneau.info/ls/s6x~us~en~file=s6x34005.htm~gen~ref.htm