MediumD
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Ford nut is a parts elitist and was talking about me 
Filling bags with tire sealant
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kustomizingkid
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Lol @ This thread....
thaywood
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Ford nut is a parts elitist and was talking about me
Ah.
No $hit. It should die a slow, painful death.
BAD97LSC
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threads like this make this site look real bad. this one went way overboard, it should be deleted in my opinion.
sorry im late did someone save me some dinner? wow i lost at least 12 iq points reading this and im an idiot to begin with!bad advise? because you say it is? it lasted a year plus in one set and i know some bags bought new that have gone out in 90 days, bye bye warranty. Screw the whole system up with slime? well its worked a year!how many out here have replaced a system or set of bags more then once a year? i bet theres a few!as for advice that shouldnt be said on here because someone might do it or do it wrong , well how about telling someone when they change there rear shocks out they have to burn out the rubber bushing and they do it under the car and start the car on fire! wouldnt that be bad advice? or is it the choice of the guy who read it to do it or not to? people are not sheep , most can make up there own minds and make there own decisions. and so what if it does get into pump and clog it up and he has to change out the system. maybe hes ok with a conversion kit. or maybe hes ok changing out the whole system and replacing it. that is not our business its his.Blowing an airbag on the road only happens when you slime it? well who the fuk slimed mine then ?they blow whenever they feel like it not because we put something in it! mine wasnt even leaking !it just blew. wish i could have had some slime to magically fix it that night as even having to replace the system would have been a lot better then trying to get the car home and then having to abandon it on the side of the road to get it towed. i lost $3000 that night from some stupid fuker that decided my stuff should be his! then the tow truck loaded car up wrong and effed it up.
this forum was created so people can ask questions and get lots of maybe rights, temporary fixes, i think this will work, this worked for me but might not work for you,dont do this, lots of opinions and just plain rants! but to ridicule this guy for answering another guys thread with how it worked for him is just plain outrageous! if anyone should be banned it should be the guy yelling ban ban because instead of just saying slime could eff up your whole system and i wouldnt do that, he had to be judge and jury and call a helpful answer every name in the book and then bring his wife into it also both ways! advice is advice i now know that if i slime my bags it might work it might clog up my compressor or it might give me a raging case of herpes! i love reading these forum i have learned so much and some new terms to call my old lady , like ass clown or butt monkey .And they say we can never go back to grade school, you proved them wrong didnt you.
thaywood ,leave the slime in and see how long it lasts then ask others how long they lasted without doing it and how much they spent in the time you had slime in yours , i bet the amount would be a big difference from $zero .i can afford to replace my bags , or my whole system if i so chose to add slime, but im sure i will just buy new bags if i need them . i have been there to where it was my only vehicle and i had to get to work to support my family , so i would have done anything i could to get a few more paychecks out of it and deal with the consequences when i had no other choice to do so.
now that i have put my 2 cents in ( that i found in the couch under the bubble gum and cereal ) i will climb back into my cozy hole and read any and all advice anyone wants to put on here as that it what this is for.
this forum was created so people can ask questions and get lots of maybe rights, temporary fixes, i think this will work, this worked for me but might not work for you,dont do this, lots of opinions and just plain rants! but to ridicule this guy for answering another guys thread with how it worked for him is just plain outrageous! if anyone should be banned it should be the guy yelling ban ban because instead of just saying slime could eff up your whole system and i wouldnt do that, he had to be judge and jury and call a helpful answer every name in the book and then bring his wife into it also both ways! advice is advice i now know that if i slime my bags it might work it might clog up my compressor or it might give me a raging case of herpes! i love reading these forum i have learned so much and some new terms to call my old lady , like ass clown or butt monkey .And they say we can never go back to grade school, you proved them wrong didnt you.
thaywood ,leave the slime in and see how long it lasts then ask others how long they lasted without doing it and how much they spent in the time you had slime in yours , i bet the amount would be a big difference from $zero .i can afford to replace my bags , or my whole system if i so chose to add slime, but im sure i will just buy new bags if i need them . i have been there to where it was my only vehicle and i had to get to work to support my family , so i would have done anything i could to get a few more paychecks out of it and deal with the consequences when i had no other choice to do so.
now that i have put my 2 cents in ( that i found in the couch under the bubble gum and cereal ) i will climb back into my cozy hole and read any and all advice anyone wants to put on here as that it what this is for.
Kstills
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Parts of this thread are interesting.
Slime appears to be an emulsified rubber, mixed with filler, fibrous material and more then likely some kind of high boiling alcohol to act as a coalescent. It remains a liquid until it gets to a hole, where the fiber apparently acts as a web to hold the emulsion in place until the water can evaporate and the coalescent can 'cure' the polymer. The size of the fiber limits the effectiveness of the product to curing leaks 1/4 inch across, although it's recommended for tire applications that if the hole is bigger, shove a stick in there and let the slime (or fix a flat) cure around the stick. May work, who knows?
Anyhow, the folks at Slime aren't recommending the product for air suspensions, but the guy I talked to really had never heard the question asked before. There could be potential problems with the air compressor (I'd leave that question to Eddie) however given the design of the struts there seems to be little likelihood of the product actually circulating through the system (being a liquid, and having the solenoids on the top of the strut, there seems little chance the slime will discharge out the air lines). Again, I'm not expert on that part of the system.
As for fixing the leak, it would seem that the biggest problem would be getting the product in contact with the area that needed to be 'fixed'. Slime, being liquid, would have to be rotated around the strut, while air pressure was applied. This should 'theorectically' allow it to find the leak and work it's magic. I would think that any aerosol product would be a better use for this application, as it would supply both the sealant and the pressure at the same time.
There appear to be quite a few tire sealent mfg, certainly more then I thought were out there. This stuff is widely used as a preventative measure for everything from off road bikes to heavy equipment. I suspect that it's use in the air bag, absent it's transfer through the compressor, would not only be useful, but would certainly seem to be able to extend the life of the rubber.
The admonition that once dry rot starts, it continues could be a good one. I do not know enough about the degradation of rubber to offer an informed opinion on that, however I would be cautious also until I found out.
My 0.02.
Slime appears to be an emulsified rubber, mixed with filler, fibrous material and more then likely some kind of high boiling alcohol to act as a coalescent. It remains a liquid until it gets to a hole, where the fiber apparently acts as a web to hold the emulsion in place until the water can evaporate and the coalescent can 'cure' the polymer. The size of the fiber limits the effectiveness of the product to curing leaks 1/4 inch across, although it's recommended for tire applications that if the hole is bigger, shove a stick in there and let the slime (or fix a flat) cure around the stick. May work, who knows?
Anyhow, the folks at Slime aren't recommending the product for air suspensions, but the guy I talked to really had never heard the question asked before. There could be potential problems with the air compressor (I'd leave that question to Eddie) however given the design of the struts there seems to be little likelihood of the product actually circulating through the system (being a liquid, and having the solenoids on the top of the strut, there seems little chance the slime will discharge out the air lines). Again, I'm not expert on that part of the system.
As for fixing the leak, it would seem that the biggest problem would be getting the product in contact with the area that needed to be 'fixed'. Slime, being liquid, would have to be rotated around the strut, while air pressure was applied. This should 'theorectically' allow it to find the leak and work it's magic. I would think that any aerosol product would be a better use for this application, as it would supply both the sealant and the pressure at the same time.
There appear to be quite a few tire sealent mfg, certainly more then I thought were out there. This stuff is widely used as a preventative measure for everything from off road bikes to heavy equipment. I suspect that it's use in the air bag, absent it's transfer through the compressor, would not only be useful, but would certainly seem to be able to extend the life of the rubber.
The admonition that once dry rot starts, it continues could be a good one. I do not know enough about the degradation of rubber to offer an informed opinion on that, however I would be cautious also until I found out.
My 0.02.
Kstills
Dedicated LVC Member
FWIW, I also have a call into ASI chemical (they make another brand of sealant) and should be getting information back on the product by Monday of next week.
This is obviously not an application that the product was designed for, but it will be instructive to hear from the manufacturer how well they think it would perform.
Note: this is not an endorsement of the use of any sealant in the air suspension system of your car.
This is obviously not an application that the product was designed for, but it will be instructive to hear from the manufacturer how well they think it would perform.
Note: this is not an endorsement of the use of any sealant in the air suspension system of your car.
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Roadboss
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Anybody try Duc tape yet??
sadly, I agree. You should see the bullsh*t that goes on over there.
Sapperfire
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Hey, if the title to his car is in his name, let him do what the hell he wants to it, I personally don't care if he fills his bags with expanding foam...I will laugh when he busts his mounts all to sh!t.
Everyone else knows that it's retarded, no need to beat a dead horse
Everyone else knows that it's retarded, no need to beat a dead horse
MonsterMark
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I haven't read the whole thread.
Does the whole thing need to go in the trash or is there anything worth keeping? I'm not reading the whole thing but if someone wants me to delete all the goo dribbling down your chin crap, I'll do it this weekend.
Some 'people' need to grow up for sure.
Does the whole thing need to go in the trash or is there anything worth keeping? I'm not reading the whole thing but if someone wants me to delete all the goo dribbling down your chin crap, I'll do it this weekend.
Some 'people' need to grow up for sure.
it was dead 10 days when you beat it.
how did THAT smell>?
when you hit it..was it a thud sound or has gotten that squishy sound yet
ford nut
Local nut case
I say trash it.
Gives LVC a black eye.
Gives LVC a black eye.
Sapperfire
Dedicated LVC Member
Nothing of value in this thread /delete
ford nut
Local nut case
LOLOL should we make a list?
Might be a long one...
Aside from the bickering threads, things like the 20 million REPOSTS of that low mileage Mark, the disappearing door concept, the overpriced SF car, the convertible and that LS that (gasps!) crashed into a rock pile, can all go. Also, any thread that doesn't pertain to the correct section could be moved.
Should make me a mod for a week... I'll clean up the whole board - Calgod style! :lol:
ford nut
Local nut case
I thought you were going to go buy that SF your so close to Don.
As far as a mod...careful what you ask for!!!
As far as a mod...careful what you ask for!!!
DIE THREAD DDDDDDIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And yes delete. I've been saying that since the begining.
And yes delete. I've been saying that since the begining.
Hahaha... He could be my golfing buddy! Yeah, I'd buy it for $1000, then part it out! :lol:
True! Might be obligated to ban myself due to violation of my own (made up) rules!
Kstills
Dedicated LVC Member
Well, since the thread was reopened....
I spoke to the president of a company that makes tire sealents, among other things.
He wanted to make very clear that because of liability issues, he would NEVER recommend the use of any product like this in an air suspension.
Once we got that out of the way, the way that sealents work is from heat, centrifugal force, and the air escaping from the tire.
The CF moves the liquid around in the tire. The heat of the inside of the tire, combined with the air escaping through the hole, set the emulsion and with the other ingrediants form a plug.
The issue in the strut is that you wouldn't have enough heat (I'm guessing) to cure the emulsion. Also, you would have to fill that mother up pretty high with the liguid in order to get it to work as a preventative. Possible in our struts (not sure how mobile the liquid would be up in the strut) but you would definitely run into the potential to suck the product into the AC, and that would kill that piece of equipment.
The other problem with these products is that they do not 'bond' to the rubber. And apperently, there aren't any products that actually do bond, although you can buy rubber conditioners to extend the life of the strut (somewhat). Do not use silicone based products.
After all was said and done, he did say he used some of his products in a friends car, but for obvious reasons would not comment on the success or failure.
Now you can kill the thread.
I spoke to the president of a company that makes tire sealents, among other things.
He wanted to make very clear that because of liability issues, he would NEVER recommend the use of any product like this in an air suspension.
Once we got that out of the way, the way that sealents work is from heat, centrifugal force, and the air escaping from the tire.
The CF moves the liquid around in the tire. The heat of the inside of the tire, combined with the air escaping through the hole, set the emulsion and with the other ingrediants form a plug.
The issue in the strut is that you wouldn't have enough heat (I'm guessing) to cure the emulsion. Also, you would have to fill that mother up pretty high with the liguid in order to get it to work as a preventative. Possible in our struts (not sure how mobile the liquid would be up in the strut) but you would definitely run into the potential to suck the product into the AC, and that would kill that piece of equipment.
The other problem with these products is that they do not 'bond' to the rubber. And apperently, there aren't any products that actually do bond, although you can buy rubber conditioners to extend the life of the strut (somewhat). Do not use silicone based products.
After all was said and done, he did say he used some of his products in a friends car, but for obvious reasons would not comment on the success or failure.
Now you can kill the thread.