ford lightning motor swap

stang99x said:
Nobody ever said speed and HP were cheap!

Also, remember this old saying

"He who has the most money, goes the fastest"
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speed is not cheap i got a :q:q:q:q ton of money in my lightning, but every dollar was worth spending in my opinion. especially when you can rip z06 vettes apart. the look on vette owners face alone is worth spending the money
 
Try eating them up in a 7000# ute (not the vet's mind you, but most others) and seeing the look on their faces........priceless:D
 
Cbecker1994Vlll said:
As a 04 lightning owner (with sic ass mods 11.8 1/4) i would say buy it, swap it, love it. my lightning dynoed at over 500 rwhp, with out touching the bottom end


by it and DOOOO IIIITTTTTTTT! i dare you
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500 rwhp? What other mods on that beast?
 
ONEBADMK8 said:
The Bonneville Mark was an "alleged" stock engine 4.6.
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Here is what Jerry said they did to the Bonneville Mark.

"The engine itself was truly a production Mark 8 engine that was just blueprinted. It had no cats and a dual exhaust. It was ran on dyno prior to installing it in the car and made 290-295 HP. It was truly a stock engine. There wasn’t enough time to put together a highly modified engine. We started working on this program about 2 months before the trials in Utah.

The transmission was stock but we did search for rotating parts that had no imbalance and no runout on the shafts. Then we built the transmission with high clearance on the clutches and bands that would not be applied during the 3rd gear runs.

The axle was changed to a 2.47 axle. We wanted to run in 3rd gear to have higher transmission efficiency. Anytime you have to turn a gear set, you are giving up power. Third gear is direct drive and you are not spinning any
gears. So we figured we needed a 2.47 axle to run in 3rd gear.

The air suspension, which normally lowers the car about 20 mm when you get above a speed, was set to lower the car another 25 mm so the car would drop almost 2” from it’s static ride height.

Aside from this, the only other changes to the car itself were removed rear brakes (for less drag), removed side view mirrors, some fabricated “belly pans” for under the car and some kind of air deflector behind the grill, and the skinny Bonneville tires. (Of course the car had a roll cage and a two-piece driveshaft)."
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Blueprinted engine
Low friction tranny
No Side mirrors
Belly pan
Taped off grill
Removed rear brakes
'skinny' race tires

Hitting 5700 rpm with a 2.47 rear in 3rd (1.00) keeping the stock tire height of 26.6" would yield a trap of 182.618.

So the question is: Can a 260 hp (rwhp) Mark with a drag co-efficient of .33 and a race weight of 3700 pounds make that run with ultra low friction internals and tires?
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I say...sure.
 
What I don't understand is why everyone is telling him NOT to do it! I mean if and when I own a mark viii I would love to see this kind of stuff being done. Its not your car or your money so why are you telling him its not going to work!

I say do it,and prove all these naysayers wrong!

Perfect example is that nobody thought you could put a DOHC head on a old 2.3L Ford turbo lima block... Well its been and being done to the extreme...

Think Individual throttle bodies, cosworth intake, Custom everything and Twin Turbos! check it out.. the guys at turboford.net are craaaazy

Anywho.. do it up man!
 
ONEBADMK8 said:
That was a BOSS 429 and that isn't the Bonneville Mark.

The Bonneville Mark was an "alleged" stock engine 4.6.
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I wasn't referring to it by name, merely by its purpose. It most certainly did run at Bonneville.
 
Everyone is telling him not to do it because he is looking for a BUDGET setup, and it is anything but.

Not to mention that for all of the work and fab he is going to have to do, he might as well drop in a Big Block Chevy.

Sure it will bolt up to the tranny, sure it will bolt up to the motor mounts, but then the real business begins. That kind of business costs a LOT of money.
 
DixieRambler said:
500 rwhp? What other mods on that beast?
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welllll............
diablo chip
kenne bell blower undisclosed boost:shifty:
one nasty custom built tranny with 3500 stall
custom intake tube with maf
custom ground cams more undisclosed info:shifty:
custom exhuast with borla mufflers it purrs @idle and gets stupid loud at WOT
jba headers
bulletproof rear end stuffed with 4.10s
forged crank and custom pistons
oh yeah and a 150 shot of juice that i rarely use
andit was all dyno tuned to song of over 500 rwhp (hell i was only shootin for around 450 rwhp, but hey ill take over 500)
oh andits 110% streetable
i think thats it i don't have the build sheet in front of me.
 
didnt say anything about a budget lol. but ive been thinking and i just rather drive a semi modded mark 8. and just get a vette and make simple bolt ons and a s/c and ill be happy. Wait till you guys see Genos car in a week or so omfg you better get your towls out now cuz there going to be alot of drool.
If anyone is considering doing this let me know i wanna help out. but for now im just going to leave it alone.



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:D my mk8 will have the 03 cobra motor in it this winter cant wait. This :q:q:q:q is not cheap. There is a performance shop down the road from me that is going to do it for me. Im not touching that project myself.

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NJ95MARK8 said:
well this is one of the reasons i posted this because i wanted to see what everyones opinions where and some of the tecnical advise that goes along with it. As for me im thinking of just getting a vette and getting out of the mark game all together they just arnt offering me what i want. but for now im still looking for a daily driver mark that may just may make a nice car one day. as of for now
i just done know what i want to do.
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Come swing by my place sometime, i got the perfect car for ya. ...85 SS 406 400hp 425tq @prox Built to the teeth 200 4r and open 3.73 10 bolt (id say swap for a ford 9 with 4.10s and a locker) Its my buddies car that hes been lookin to sell for a while now, it hasnt been advertised, just by word of mouth....actually...remember when we were burnin it up infront of his house, yea that monte that was sittin there. I think hed take 6 for it. And trust me...for the ammount of money your willing to spend, you could have a 10 second or better car with this thing. Though, idk what your preference is. Come check it out sometime though, its realy worth the look even if your not interested.
 
NJ95MARK8 said:
didnt say anything about a budget lol. but ive been thinking and i just rather drive a semi modded mark 8. and just get a vette and make simple bolt ons and a s/c and ill be happy. Wait till you guys see Genos car in a week or so omfg you better get your towls out now cuz there going to be alot of drool.
If anyone is considering doing this let me know i wanna help out. but for now im just going to leave it alone.



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whats up with the barnymobile? i havent been away thaaat long. Is THE project done already? Geno.....SHOTGUN!
 
stang99x said:
For $3k, just add a blower. Then, you have your answer.
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I would love to see an intercooled blower installed for 3K. (why do it if you don't intercool it? You're too limited otherwise) Honestly, by the time you get it done, you will be closer to twice that price. Remember, you need to have it tuned too. That is probably $750 by the time you buy whatever chip/software you use plus dyno time.
 
MrWilson said:
whats up with the barnymobile? i havent been away thaaat long. Is THE project done already? Geno.....SHOTGUN!
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ray has got alot of plans for barney, he told me some but i dont wanna give it away, think the assinviiitor but better, cant wait
 
chickenviii said:
ray has got alot of plans for barney, he told me some but i dont wanna give it away, think the assinviiitor but better, cant wait
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na, i was talkin bout genos puppy. purple=barnymobile.
 
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