Gay Marriage and Lifestyle Choice Thread.

[TheDude]

Then why do the 'experts' say pedofiles (sp?) have a sickness and have to be locked up in nuthouses for treatment?

Im not saying being gay is a sickness - but you can see the parallel

Pedophiles can't mentally control [turn off] that they find children sexually attractive, but they can physically control the act of preying on them. When they succumb to their desires, they need to be stopped because of the physical and emotional trauma children can sustain.

I'm not a supporter of "he's cured, we can trust him now" though, like a dog who viciously attacks people, they do it once; you put them down, or else risk getting 'mauled' again and this time, you only have yourself to blame. That's just my opinion though.

Not sure about the parallel though, are you concerned what one willing adult male (or female) does to another willing adult male (or female) in terms of abuse and safety? I doubt you are.

 

[shagdrum]

Your anecdotal evidence is just that... for every "gay because of child abuse/trauma" there’s a gay person who wasn't abused and a straight person who was abused. For every "flamer" there’s a gay man who fit's every "straight man" stereotype save who he has sex with. For every promiscuous gay man, there's a man/man couple going on 25+ years of committed relationship, for every long-term lesbian couple, there's a promiscuous "dyke" sleeping around etc. etc. etc.

I never said every gay person is due to sexual abuse, I just said that of the gay people I know that tends to be the case (that is has far as that claim goes from me, I made that clear). It is interesting though, and worth looking into further I would think. However, all your claims here are absurd "for every (x) there is an equal (y)". It is obvious you r just throwing that out there. For every promiscuous gay man there is someone one in a long term relationship? Nope. Ask anyone in the gay community about that and they will set u straight. It seems u really have no clue about the nature of the gay community.

 

[Joeychgo]

Pedophiles can't mentally control [turn off] that they find children sexually attractive, but they can physically control the act of preying on them. When they succumb to their desires, they need to be stopped because of the physical and emotional trauma children can sustain.

I'm not a supporter of "he's cured, we can trust him now" though, like a dog who viciously attacks people, they do it once; you put them down, or else risk getting 'mauled' again and this time, you only have yourself to blame. That's just my opinion though.

Not sure about the parallel though, are you concerned what one willing adult male (or female) does to another willing adult male (or female) in terms of abuse and safety? I doubt you are.

I only make the parallel to show that at least some sexual desires are nearly impossible to control. I hated using such a negative parallel, but it made my point. Of course im not saying being gay is like being a pedo - but that they have such a hard time controlling it. Its not genetic, but its something similar in that you cant just "change". Its not a desire you choose.

I remember a few episodes of ER that really struck me. Bear with me here.

Carrie (a lesbian) and her partner wanted a baby. First she tried to get pregnant, and lost the pregnancy. Then her partner got pregnant, and they had the baby. They raised the baby together for about a year when Carrie's partner died. Shortly after her death, her partner's parents grabbed the baby and filed for custody, claiming they were blood and Carrie wasnt.​

I remember pondering it then. Carrie had to worry about losing her son, the son she had been raising from birth. In a courtroom, im not so sure who would win.

Its scenariaos like that which really make me think gay people deserve to be treated equally in terms of marriage. I guess I think about it like this. What is more appropriate... Allowing gay couples to marry and build lives together secure that they have the same rights as a hetro couple, or telling them that they have no right to such commitment, ceremony and legal protection?

Moreover, who does it hurt? Are you going to now tell me that people will 'choose' to be gay because they can get married? this is what confounds me. I see no negative in reality. I think its much more about being judgmental then anything else.