GOP Insiders Worry About McCain's Chances

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For four months John McCain had a clear field while Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton were at each other's throats. Given the opportunity, the Arizona Senator failed to define the debate in favorable terms, spending much of the valuable primary months defending himself on charges that his campaign staff was top heavy with lobbyists.
Conversely, McCain has so far eluded the anti-Republican tidal wave that threatens to sweep away the party's candidates at every level, from county councils to the U.S. Senate. Amid the early wreckage -- GOP partisan identification in the tank, three defeats in rock-solid GOP House districts, and the National Republican Senatorial and Congressional Committees scratching for cash -- McCain stands competitive with Obama in national polls, running just 2.5 points behind.
The McCain campaign to date lends itself to contradictory assessments. The odds makers are leaning decisively in Obama's favor but McCain is not out of the running.
Rick Davis, McCain's campaign manager, has posted a PowerPoint study asserting that McCain currently hold slight leads in Wisconsin, Michigan, Missouri and Nevada, and that Ohio is "a dead heat" and that Pennsylvania could go Republican. "This is a very good position for our campaign to be in," Davis contends
In fact, the survey data is not as favorable as Davis claims - Obama leads in all five of the most recent Pennsylvania polls by an average of 5.8 points, and he leads in Wisconsin by 2 points. Polling in the 19 states identified by RealClearPolitics as battlegrounds shows Obama in a better position than McCain, ahead in such Bush '04 states as Colorado and Iowa, and running very close in Virginia, New Mexico and Nevada.
In addition, the data on RealClearPolitics dispute another of Davis' claims --- that McCain has stronger favorable/unfavorable ratings than Obama. Instead, the recent average for McCain is 47.3 favorable to 40.8 unfavorable, or a +6.5; for Obama, it's 50.3 to 38.5, or +11.8 .
In not-for-attribution interviews, a number of Republicans were neither optimistic about his chances nor positive in their assessment of his campaign so far.
"I think we've got a world of problems," said one Republican strategist with extensive experience in presidential campaigns. He said this came home to him with a thud when he watched Obama and McCain give speeches last Tuesday, with the Democrat speaking before "20,000 screaming fans, while John McCain looked every bit of his 72 years" in a speech televised from New Orleans. This Republican cited the liberal blogger Atrios' description of McCain's speech with a green backdrop that made McCain "look like the cottage cheese in a lime Jell-O salad."
For McCain to stand a chance of winning, the operative contended, the campaign, the Republican National Committee, or an independent group will have to finance sustained negative ads developing a broad assault on Obama's credibility as a national leader at a time of terrorist threat. McCain, however, has gone out of his way to aggressively discourage such activity, the operative pointed out, which, he argued, may kill McCain's chances.
Another strategist with similar presidential experience said "McCain has not claimed the maverick ground that should be his. He has not seized the mantle of 'change' and reform that he could own by going to Washington and saying, 'you know me. You know I've been a reformer all my life. Now, here's how I am going to change Washington if you elect me president.' And he has not taken economic turf. He has not explained how he is going to grow, not Washington, as the Democrats plan, but this economy to meet the challenges of global competition."

<B>Earlier this year, Rich Lowry, editor of the National Review, wrote:
McCain is an America nationalist and progressive reformer in the tradition of Teddy Roosevelt, but the real consistent line throughout his career is a belief in his own righteousness. This can lead him to great prescience, as on the surge; foolhardy lack of proportion, as on his crusade for campaign-finance reform; and party-splitting, self-destructive stubbornness, as on immigration reform. If Republicans pick him, he won't be the safe, known quantity they usually look for in a next-in-line nominee, but a go-it-alone politician, unpredictable except for the courage and irascibility he'll bring to whatever he does.​
Asked what he thinks of the McCain campaign so far, Lowry replied:
I'd say middling. But he's always going to have an enthusiasm, money, and charisma gap. The question is whether he can make up what might well be a solid Obama lead throughout the summer in the fall when people really focus on Obama... Probably the most important development in this period was McCain's embrace of the theme of reform, which I hope won't be jettisoned amid the critical reviews of the delivery and presentation of his New Orleans speech.​
Tom Mann of the Brookings Institution argues that "McCain continues to embrace Bush policies on the most important issues, relying on a reputation for independence and moderation that could be lost in the heat of battle with Obama and the Democrats.... At the end of this long interlude, the only rationale for his election that has emerged is that Obama cannot be trusted to lead the country at a time of great danger because he is too inexperienced, naïve, liberal, elitist, and out of touch with American values. 'Elect me because the other guy is worse.' Not much of an argument in the face of gale-force winds blowing against the Republican Party."</B>
Along similar lines, Norman Ornstein, of the American Enterprise Institute, questioned whether McCain and his aides have "spent enough time and effort developing themes for why he should be president, not just why Obama should not-- especially themes that address the deep-seated anxiety voters feel that goes beyond current economic conditions."

<B>Arch-conservative Bay Buchanan suggested that it may not matter what McCain does. Writing in Human Events on June 4, she declared:
In reality there is only one candidate. Barack Obama. In November he will win or he will lose. John McCain is relevant only in so far as he is not Barack Obama. The Senator from Arizona is incapable of energizing his party, brings no new people to the polls, and has a personality that is best kept under wraps.​
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I see a lot of similarities between Obama and the 1968 Canadian election of Pierre Trudeau as Prime Minister.
Young, hip, and charismatic, Trudeau whipped the stuffy old school guy Bob Stanfield, who had the misfortune of being photographed eating a banana.
Cartoonists siezed on the banana and he was always caricatured eating one.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trudeaumania

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As a business man I'd rather have McCain (less taxes, govt regulations,unionizing laws), but he's so dull he doesn't inspire anyone.
Obama is inspiring to people (not me though) mostly to youths and the have nots.
It should be a very interesting campaign seeing the two of them duking it out.
 
As a business man I'd rather have McCain (less taxes, govt regulations,unionizing laws), but he's so dull he doesn't inspire anyone.
Obama is inspiring to people (not me though) mostly to youths and the have nots.
It should be a very interesting campaign seeing the two of them duking it out.

I'm glad you did not take offense from my statement as none was intended. I am curious though that you tend to favor the Democrats over the Republicans in your posts...why is that?
 
I'm glad you did not take offense from my statement as none was intended. I am curious though that you tend to favor the Democrats over the Republicans in your posts...why is that?
He wants it both ways.

Fiscally conservative to selfishly keep HIS money but socially liberal to spend other people's money. Pretty simple.;)
 
Conspiracy theorist now. Fossten?

On a serious note, you don't think how Bush ran the country for the past 8 years is any reason for the so-called "Obamania"?

I don't see that as a Conspiracy Theory at all...just the truth in Black and White!


Rasmussen: No one trusts the media’s election coverage anymore

posted at 3:42 pm on June 8, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Do note: The question wasn’t whether the end product is biased (say, unconsciously), it was whether the media’s even trying to be objective. Answering no: 68% overall, including 56% of Democrats and 50% of liberals. Our nutroots betters assure us that the press is thoroughly right-wing, so it must be McCain whom people believe is getting a free ride, yes? Not so much:
Voters have little doubt as to who is benefitting from the media coverage this year—Barack Obama. Fifty-four percent (54%) say Obama has gotten the best coverage so far. Twenty-two percent (22%) say McCain has received the most favorable coverage while 14% say that Hillary got the best treatment…
Looking ahead to the fall campaign, 44% believe most reporters will try to help Obama while only 13% believe that most will try to help McCain. Twenty-four percent (24%) are optimistic enough to believe that most reporters will try to offer unbiased coverage.
Even Democrats tend to believe their candidate will receive better treatment—27% of those in Obama’s party believe most reporters will try to help him win while only 16% believe they will help McCain. A plurality of Democrats—34%–believe most reporters will be unbiased.
Among unaffiliated voters, 44% believe reporters will try to help Obama and 14% believe they will try to help McCain.
Doubtless most of the lefties claiming the media’s in the tank for Obama are Hillary diehards (43% overall say she’s gotten the rawest deal among the three, compared to 27% saying McCain and 15% saying Obama). Exit question: It’s too much to expect most of her supporters to either stay home or vote McCain in the fall, but is it too much to expect them to be more sensitive to the media’s Obama shilling going forward? Not that they’re going to pound the table about it on McCain’s behalf, but I keep thinking back to Jeralyn Merritt of TalkLeft calling Olbermann “the most shameless ridiculous hack on TV.” Quite so, and once that lesson’s been learned, it can’t really be unlearned. Or can it?
 
It was a joke, as you'll notice the opening line of the second paragraph, "on a serious note".
 
On a serious note, you don't think how Bush ran the country for the past 8 years is any reason for the so-called "Obamania"?

I wish we could spl;it this country in half. Conservatives can have a government ran as they wish and the libs could do their thing.

I would even settle for a couple of states that would opt out of the federal system.
 
I wish we could spl;it this country in half. Conservatives can have a government ran as they wish and the libs could do their thing.

I would even settle for a couple of states that would opt out of the federal system.
Sounds good to me. You can have Texas and Montana. :p
 
I wish we could spl;it this country in half. Conservatives can have a government ran as they wish and the libs could do their thing.

I would even settle for a couple of states that would opt out of the federal system.


No, no, no, your side would always be launching missiles with pictures of Jesus on them and my side would always be having to make up excuses, like the belligerent drunken uncle who passes out face first into the mass n' gravy during the family get together. "Oh, Roger is just tired, he works a lot; you’ll have to excuse him."
 
....and you'd think after the months of glowing press coverage, the "defeat" of Hillary in the primary and the surrounding positive press, that Obama would at least have a temporary spike in popularity of more than 3 points over McCain.

That's not the case.

Furthermore, Obama isn't a candidate who will garner MORE support as the public better knows him. To the contrary. The longer the campaign, the greater the risk for Obama.

Despite his excellent vision and teleprompter skills, he's TERRIBLE in a candid situation. McCain is smart to attempt to move the debates into unscripted, unprepared formats.

I've met McCain, though briefly. He is good in person.

One of my best friends had Obama as a professor and can't say anything positive about him.
 
And if I'm going to compare it to another election, I wouldn't looked at the leftist history of Canada, I'd just go back a few decades in American history.

Nixon v. McGovern. 1972.
Only McCain is more popular than Nixon. And McGovern was more reasonable than Obama.... and that's not a statement to take lightly.
 
He wants it both ways.

Fiscally conservative to selfishly keep HIS money but socially liberal to spend other people's money. Pretty simple.;)

The conservatives are always moralizing to people, aligning themselves with religious groups, many of their candidates talk to God and con gullable simple people into supporting them mostly by using fear of the "others not like us"
Republicans are the "selfish" ones, espousing rugged individualism and an ironic darwinian survival of the fittest attitude.

The Democrats have more intellectually interesting and colorful people whom many of the simple folk hold in contempt.

Being socially liberal has nothing to with money.
You're accusing me of being fiscally liberal in fact which I'm not.
At least I'm honest about the duality of my views.

I thought you were busy preparing for Armegeddon, duck and cover like in a bunker or something.
 
And of course there's

Mon, June 9, 2008
'A black man is never going to win Pennsylvania'

Racial attitudes pose challenge for Obama
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GREENSBURG, Pa. — Joyce Susick is the type of voter who might carry Barack Obama to the White House — or keep him out. A registered Democrat in a highly competitive state, she is eager to replace George W. Bush, whom she ranks among the worst presidents ever.
There’s just one problem.
“I don’t think our country is ready for a black president,” Susick, who is white, said in an interview in the paint store where she works. “A black man is never going to win Pennsylvania.” Susick said her personal objection to Obama is his inexperience, not his colour. “It has nothing to do with race,” she said.
If Susick is right about Pennsylvania voters, it presents a major hurdle for the presumed Democratic nominee. Democrats have carried Pennsylvania in the last four presidential contests, and Obama would have to offset a loss of its 21 electoral votes by taking Republican-leaning states from John McCain.
Polls suggest that Susick, a grandmother of three, does not represent most registered Democrats here or elsewhere. But there may be enough like-minded voters in Pennsylvania, whose last two presidential elections have been close, to tip it to McCain.

In the April 22 primary, Susick voted for Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, who carried Pennsylvania by 10 percentage points. Perhaps more troubling for Obama, one in four Clinton’s backers told exit pollsters they would vote for McCain if Obama were the nominee; an additional 17 percent said they would not vote at all.
Obama has time and money to court these voters. Polls indicate some can be swayed. But the first-term senator is wading into unknown waters. Political scientists have reams of data about past elections, but there has been no test of how many voters make their ultimate decision based on race.
The answer may determine the presidency. Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan and Florida, with large numbers of white, working-class voters, could prove problematic for a black man even in a year that otherwise looks grim for GOP candidates.
Gauging voter sentiments about race is notoriously difficult. Many voters hide their feelings from pollsters and it is possible that some do not even realize race’s influence on their behaviour. In interviews with 40 Pennsylvanians across three counties that Clinton won by big margins, only one person indicated opposition to Obama simply because of his race. But several others said their neighbours might do so. Some offered objections that are familiar, and suspicious, to Obama’s aides and supporters.
A few, like Susick, suggested the nation needs more time to prepare for a black president — and perhaps a woman as well.
“I don’t think we’re ready for either one yet,” said Doug Richardson, 62, a contractor from Latrobe. Obama “just hasn’t impressed me,” he said over midmorning coffee with a friend at Denny’s. “His middle name bothers me a lot.” That name is Hussein.
Obama may have little to lose with voters such as Richardson, a self-described conservative who likes McCain. More worrisome are longtime Democrats who backed Clinton in April but are threatening to abandon the party now that she is not the nominee.
Rose Iezzi, who lunched recently with two friends at a Greensburg cafe, is one. All three women are middle-aged, work for an accountant and admire Clinton. But only Iezzi took a hard stand against Obama.
“I think he’s a snake oil salesman,” she said. “He’s a little too slick and smooth.”
“He just doesn’t appeal to me, and not because of race, definitely,” she said in an interview in which race had not been mentioned.
Such comments are all too familiar to Richard Akers, who phoned dozens of prospective Pennsylvania voters as an Obama campaign volunteer in April. Democrats often explained their opposition to Obama with “excuses that were not rational or valid, as I saw it,” said the retired bank director from Johnstown, another hotbed of Clinton support.
“To me, it was almost a code,” Akers said. “’He doesn’t wear a flag pin.’ It seemed like code for ‘He’s not one of us.’ "
In Pennsylvania, as elsewhere, some people hardly hide their prejudices.
Robert Miller, 72, who lives in a government subsidized room in Bedford, said the Constitution should be amended so it will “not let any coloured people run for the White House.” He seemed unsure about his voting record in recent elections, but vividly recalled voting for Dwight Eisenhower in 1956.
Dixie Pebley of Johnstown, 71, explained her distaste for Obama, saying, “black doesn’t bother me, but Muslim does.” When reminded that Obama is a Christian, she conceded the point, but added: “He was born Muslim and raised Muslim, that’s enough for me. He just scares me to death.”
Obama, the son of a white mother from Kansas and black father from Kenya, was born and raised in a mostly secular family that occasionally attended Christian services. He joined the United Church of Christ as a young adult.
Obama has little to fear from Pebley, who said she no longer votes because she is disillusioned with politicians. But even some likely voters who are largely sympathetic to him are troubled by his ties, now broken, to a former pastor who cursed the United States and accused the government of possible conspiracies against blacks.
Kate Tanning, a Pittsburgh antiques dealer who was lunching with friends in Bedford, rejected Obama’s claim that he did not know of the Rev. Jeremiah Wright’s most bombastic statements even though Obama attended Wright’s Chicago church for 20 years.
“That’s the one thing about him I can’t believe,” she said.
Obama generally avoids direct racial appeals, and he is likely to pursue such voters with familiar arguments: His opposition to the Iraq war and appeals for national unity and bipartisanship, for example. He may be making progress. National polls show him leading McCain among female voters and running even among Catholics, two groups that generally backed Clinton in the Democratic primaries.
But national polls are less important than those in the roughly 15 highly competitive states in which both parties will focus their efforts. These are all big states full of white, working-class voters who were Clinton’s base, and include Michigan, Pennsylvania and Ohio.
Obama will count on voters such as Iezzi’s lunchmates, Susan Szymanski and Roxane Uhrin. Both said they strongly preferred Clinton, but will vote for Obama this fall in hopes of changing policies on the economy and Iraq.
“I don’t want a third term of George Bush,” Szymanski said.
James Antoniono, a Greensburg lawyer and veteran Democratic activist who worked for Clinton, said many Clinton backers will support Obama this fall, including some who told exit pollsters they would not.
“It’s one thing to come out of the voting both and say that,” Antoniono said. “It’s another thing when you’re faced with a choice in the general election.”
Still, he said, Obama and his aides face tough battles. “There’s no way they win Ohio, in my mind,” he said in his law office, which faces Westmoreland County’s elegant old courthouse. “I think Pennsylvania is winnable,” he said. But he predicted Obama will “lose Westmoreland big,” even though registered Democrats far outnumber Republicans in the county, which is east of Pittsburgh.
At least one Obama fan thinks the impact of racial prejudice may be limited.
Rick Weimer, a retired Coca-Cola truck driver who was eating a Chinese dish at a mall food court in Johnstown, said analysts are “pretty accurate” in describing Pennsylvania as Philadelphia in the east, Pittsburgh in the west “and Alabama in between.” Obama’s race “will hurt him” in many places, said Weimer, who follows the campaign intensely on cable TV. “But when push comes to shove, people around here want change.”
That might include some white Democrats who publicly criticize Obama just to fit in with their neighbours, he said. “Once they go into the voting booth,” he said, “who knows?”
 
McCain has the white people who will never vote for a black man vote by default.
There's a lot more of these people than most would admit to.
 
I'm glad you did not take offense from my statement as none was intended. I am curious though that you tend to favor the Democrats over the Republicans in your posts...why is that?

It's more stimulating to the debate.
How dull things would be if everyone just patted themselves on the back in agreement.
I'm thick skinned and impossible to offend.


I'm originally from Canada and was 10 years old in 1968.
Despite the dire predictions from the conservatives vilifying Trudeau, Canada prospered and became a better greater more unified country under his leadership.
During the 1970 FLQ crisis in Quebec Trudeau called out the troops and suspended civil liberties.
When a reporter asked how far would he go Trudeau said
"Just watch me"
He broke the backs of the terrorists and handled the situation in a decisive manner and when it was over we didn't get a police state like some were predicting.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FLQ

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_Crisis




The Obama/McCain campaign is just starting so it's too soon to write anyone off.
Let the games begin...
 
So The GOP Insiders shouldn't worry about McCain's chances...media hype?

Too soon to tell
This is one of the wild cards the media considering themselves intellectuals and progressives don't like to talk about.
 
It's too soon to tell. Alot of things can sway this - such as VP choices and Debates.
 

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