GS430 Vs LS??????

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Hey guys I was thinking about getting a new LS but then my buddy just bought one!!! so I think im gettin somthing diffrent now.. does anyone know anything about the Lexus GS430 is it faster? ride nicer? better all around car?
 
More expensive, nice ride, more expensive to work on, much faster, more expensive to work on, doesn't hold it's value any more than an LS, more expensive to work on, great interior, more expensive to work on....

get the idea????
 
Well... the cheapest GS430 ($51 grand) you can buy costs more than a LS with every single available option ($49 grand), and is faster than the LS... so I'd go with the Lexus. :)
 
I test drove the GS430 2 months ago. I bought the Lincoln LS because I liked the car and wanted to "Buy American".

The f'd up part is that two weeks after I bought the LS Lincoln they announced that the Wixom factory may close? I was pissed!

The GS430 is a better car on EVERY count. The LS is a good American car. But when you get in a BMW 5 series or a GS430 its a whole other world. When you shut the door on a 5 or 430 its like closing a bank vault air tight door, and they have wood everywhere, better dash gauges, more after market support, more wheel and tires.

The LS is good American Made car. But it has ZERO aftermarket support and its just a GOOD car. A BMW 5 is a GREAT car, the fit an finish are second to none, the quality is 100% and the 430 is not far behind.

I would say; buy the Lincoln, you won't be sorry. Mine stickered at $49,888.00 and I got it for $39,752.00 with the FORD employee pricing, and an additional $1000 off from the dealer, and an additional $500 off for using FORD Motor Credit....and at ZERO PERCENT interest.

You'll be happy with the Lincoln, thrilled with the GS430 and exhillerated with a BMW 5.
 
well, the lexus gs430 has 300hp? v8..i know the older gen had 300hp..all i can go by is the older gen 98-04 and they are nice cars..but i dont like the interior. However, the plus is V8, rwd, sub 6 second 0-60 acceleration..skid control, great sound system, select shift auto.


For a BMW 5 series, dont they only have 230 hp? I dont know bmw's that well, and the ones i were looking at were the pre 03 restyling..but i do like the fact that bmw puts a manual in almost everyone of thier cars as an option. i just think unless you get an m series they are under powered.

A CTS/ STS would be another choice i would toss out their, or a 300 SRT-8 or 300 C
 
$ for $ you cant beat a LS for the features you get. The Lexus is a bad mama though. If you can afford it get it. How bout the new IS350? I saw one on the road yesterday, I had to stop drooling.
 
IS350 is nice, 14.0 in a quarter mile.... will smoke an LS. and it is almost half the price of a GS!
 
Ken Motz said:
The LS is good American Made car. But it has ZERO aftermarket support and its just a GOOD car.
I don't know about ZERO now.... :N
 
See the problem is it didnt seem like the LS was all the smooth of a ride or powerful..... Whats with the v6 s-type jag are they as fast as the v8 ls? and all the CTS I see are v6 there not that quick are they??? whats the fastest v6 luxury car you guys know of? just a v6 no turbo or supercharger
 
The IS350 looks real nice, but still not cheap (definitely not half the GS), at $44k with premium package. And that's a damned fast luxo-V6, by the way.

Gotta think about street prices. The LS is about $10k off sticker for '05s. You'll get nothing off the IS yet. As someone else said, the GS is like $50K, and Lexus just doesn't discount much in general. What about the Acura RL? '05s are going for $43k.
 
I dont understand all the emphasis on 0-60 times and horsepower ratings when deciding to buy a car. Unless it's some sh!tbox 4 cylinder then most all cars have plenty of power to do 99.9% of the driving you need. This has to be a direct correlation to the number of a-hole drivers nowadays. Everyone needs 300+ horsepower. Why? Is there such a need to prove yourself to others by having a faster car ? Its a total invasion but i'd love to see government standards of horsepower and top speed on cars. I looked at plenty of cars before buying my LS, and some took about two seconds after sitting in them to decide i didnt want it, never even started the engine. Your paying a premium price for a premium name. All of the 35-40k+ cars have great quality its just a matter of what suits you best.
 
3.5 V6 Altima is pretty quick! if i remember correctly it is a mid to low 14's car. G35 coupe is either 13.8 or 14.0!
 
Qbrozen said:
The IS350 looks real nice, but still not cheap (definitely not half the GS), at $44k with premium package.

well... i said ALMOST half, because i was basing my knowledge off motor trends as tested model which says $39k. but screw the premium package, what is that anyway a stupid navi system for almost $5k. which i can go aftermarket and only pay $1k???
 
Fla02LS said:
I dont understand all the emphasis on 0-60 times and horsepower when deciding to buy a car. Unless its some sh!tbox 4 cylinder then most all cars have plenty of power to do 99.9% of the driving you need. This has to be a direct correlation to the number of a-hole drivers nowadays. Everyone needs 300+ horsepower. Why?

Because its fun!!

And its not about "need", its about "want."

Apply that same question to anything in life .... a 20" TV can show programs just fine, why do you want a big screen? $45k salary can keep you out of the poorhouse, so why do you want $75K? A pentium 2 with 12" monitor can handle 99% of your tasks, so why do you want anything faster? A homely girl can get you off, so why do you want a supermodel?

So go ahead and tell me you live in a one-room apartment with your toothless wife and are typing from a first-gen pentium 'puter ... otherwise you can put away the holier-than-thou attitude.
 
JoeyLincolnMK8 said:
well... i said ALMOST half, because i was basing my knowledge off motor trends as tested model which says $39k. but screw the premium package, what is that anyway a stupid navi system for $5k. which i can go aftermarket and only pay $1k???

adds moonroof and perforated leather heated seats, for example. Not much of a luxury car without those things. Might as well get the Altima (as you mentioned) if you want to skip those things, IMHO.
 
Fla02LS said:
I dont understand all the emphasis on 0-60 times and horsepower ratings when deciding to buy a car. Unless it's some sh!tbox 4 cylinder then most all cars have plenty of power to do 99.9% of the driving you need. This has to be a direct correlation to the number of a-hole drivers nowadays. Everyone needs 300+ horsepower. Why? Is there such a need to prove yourself to others by having a faster car ? Its a total invasion but i'd love to see government standards of horsepower and top speed on cars. I looked at plenty of cars before buying my LS, and some took about two seconds after sitting in them to decide i didnt want it, never even started the engine. Your paying a premium price for a premium name. All of the 35-40k+ cars have great quality its just a matter of what suits you best.

Why you ask? Because they can -- Just like why you can have opinions that others find very strange. Thats the great country we live in - Thanks for your input in the situation, its been noted.
 
Qbrozen said:
Because its fun!!

And its not about "need", its about "want."

Apply that same question to anything in life .... a 20" TV can show programs just fine, why do you want a big screen? $45k salary can keep you out of the poorhouse, so why do you want $75K? A pentium 2 with 12" monitor can handle 99% of your tasks, so why do you want anything faster? A homely girl can get you off, so why do you want a supermodel?

So go ahead and tell me you live in a one-room apartment with your toothless wife and are typing from a first-gen pentium 'puter ... otherwise you can put away the holier-than-thou attitude.
All of the examples above are in regards to a persons private life in their own dwellings, doesnt impact anyone else. But if a speed limit is 45 and your going 65 so you can show that other guy who's boss than your infringing on the safety of others, thats why. If the 300+ hp car is to go to a licensed race facility then fine, go at it. But your fun comes at the expense of others. If you have a "want" to prove something with your car then you are the one lacking something.
 
just for $hits and giggles i was building my own IS from lexus site. they did not have those options to select the moonroof and perforated heated leather seats.
and the only option i picked was the 18 wheels. here is what i came up with as a price. but knowing me i can bring the price down!




Base MSRP* $35,440.00
• Standard Features
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$720.00
• 18-in Alloy Wheels with Summer Tires
- 18-in Alloy Wheels with Summer Tires
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• Trunk mat (see dealer)
• Wheel locks (see dealer)
• Cargo net (see dealer)
• 18-in G-Spider alloy wheels (see dealer)
• All-weather floor mats (see dealer)
• Car cover (see dealer)
Delivery, Processing & Handling Fee†
$590.00
Total MSRP** $36,750.00





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Fla02LS said:
All of the examples above are in regards to a persons private life in their own dwellings, doesnt impact anyone else. But if a speed limit is 45 and your going 65 so you can show that other guy who's boss than your infringing on the safety of others, thats why. If the 300+ hp car is to go to a licensed race facility then fine, go at it. But your fun comes at the expense of others. If you have a "want" to prove something with your car then you are the one lacking something.


Your kidding with that response right? LOL

You've got more worrying about the general bad drivers in the world than to grab onto that straw that just slipped out of your hand. Quit picking fly shyt out of pepper. Its done, move onto another thread.
 
K well yea the lincoln is a nice car but mine didnt hold up very well.... If i where to buy a car with like 30,000 miles on with what you you guys go with?
 
didjital| said:
Your kidding with that response right? LOL

You've got more worrying about the general bad drivers in the world than to grab onto that straw that just slipped out of your hand. Quit picking fly shyt out of pepper. Its done, move onto another thread.
Nah, its attitude like yours that suck with no regard to others. Maybe you live in some hole in the wall town, oh wait..Detroit, yep. But with the amount of driving i do i see a-hole drivers daily. And i see fatal accidents all the time, and i am sure plenty of others that arent news worthy. If you dont think that your driving habits on public roads dont affect others than your a sad sad person. Its obvious your just a punk kid, once you have a family with a wife and small child on the road your perspective will change. As far moving on...nah. I think i'll be staying right here tough guy.
 
Fla02LS said:
All of the examples above are in regards to a persons private life in their own dwellings, doesnt impact anyone else. But if a speed limit is 45 and your going 65 so you can show that other guy who's boss than your infringing on the safety of others, thats why. If the 300+ hp car is to go to a licensed race facility then fine, go at it. But your fun comes at the expense of others. If you have a "want" to prove something with your car then you are the one lacking something.

i didn't say anything about top speed... and neither did you. You commented on 0-60. I have plenty of roads with 65 mph limits. And why does it have anything to do with showing off? Do you go on a roller coaster to show off? No, you do it for your own personal amusement.
 
Qbrozen said:
i didn't say anything about top speed... and neither did you. You commented on 0-60. I have plenty of roads with 65 mph limits. And why does it have anything to do with showing off? Do you go on a roller coaster to show off? No, you do it for your own personal amusement.
Dude, look back at the progression of the posts. It went from a Lexus vs. LS inquiry with regards to price and quality. It then went in the direction of 0-60 times and 1/4 mile and how much horsepower and whats the "fastest" V6. You may not have gone that direction but thats the direction it went.
 
free139stylz said:
K well yea the lincoln is a nice car but mine didnt hold up very well.... If i where to buy a car with like 30,000 miles on with what you you guys go with?

it is hard to say. what type of guy are you when it comes to cars? are you picky? are you more of a sedan or coupe person?
 

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