GS430 Vs LS??????

2001LS8Sport said:
You have GOT to be $hitting me!!! I almost fell out of my chair when I read that...

But of course, I also drive a 500 hp Cobra. I've also been driving for almost 40 years. I've got a grand total of two tickets...both of them in a V6 Grand Prix.

By your logic, we should also ban stereo systems, navigation systems, information centers, just about any option on the car that can detract from driving the car. Hmmm....might as well get rid of cupholders too...better not have a soda or cup of coffee with you.

There are countries out there that do the sort of things you imply. Try living in one of them for a while and let us know how you like it.

Your statement absolutely stuns me beyond belief.
Your right, that statement is way outta line and i wouldnt want to live somewhere with that kinda of restriction. But if the speed limit is say...65, then doing anything over 80mph gets ridiculous, annoying and dangerous. Just today a Honda S2000 blew by weaving doing atleast 120, i was doing 70 in a 65. If i had spent another second changing lanes he would have smacked into me. I honestly think if i was in my Intrepid vs. the LS i would have taking one for the team and let this guy smack into me doing 120 mph. So for all that think i am some old guy with the "get off my lawn" attitude, i'm not. I just drive a ton of miles and encounter alot of B.S. here in Orlando and it gets old really really quick. If you take offense to my comments then they must describe you. There has been close to 500 views on this thread and only a handfull who defend this kind of driving, so you must be one of them. I get some resolve when i see stuff thinking that just maybe those drivers will wrap their car around a tree one day and that will be the end of 'em. I guess kind of an A-hole natural selection process.
 
can we please talk more about the stang guy. Let's get him on here and tell us his side of the story.
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-really who gives a sh*t he's a dumbass. kill this sub-thread. :dancefool

Fla02ls - {Just today a Honda S2000 blew by weaving doing atleast 120, i was doing 70 in a 65. If i had spent another second changing lanes he would have smacked into me. I honestly think if i was in my Intrepid vs. the LS i would have taking one for the team and let this guy smack into me doing 120 mph.}

70 in a 65 ur nuts u should of been smacked into. u should be going at least 75 THAT"S the rule.!! lol j/k passing someone closely doing 120 is pretty stupid. I was doing 120 yesterday as well except when I saw a car about 10 car lengths ahead of me i slowed down...passed him doing 75. There is a place and a time for being stupid, to me that's when there is nobody else around. I'll let u of this time Fla02LS but you better drive the rule next time. (10 over atleast)
 
humm a good luxury sports car......how about an acura TL? but then again you can never go wrong with a bmw! those things may seam underpowered but they are quick!! dont be fooled with their HP and torque ratings... but i feel in love with my lincoln and wouldnt get another car unless i had to... in which case i would get the G35 coupe, BMW 330ci or M3 you could always do a used 2000 M5 for about 35k i belive.
 
Fla02LS said:
...snip...If you take offense to my comments then they must describe you. There has been close to 500 views on this thread and only a handfull who defend this kind of driving, so you must be one of them...snip.../QUOTE]

I am not defending stupid drivers. I'm defending the right to drive what you want where you want when you want. I will just about guarantee you that there are more people killed in auto accidents from cars with less than 250 hp than those with more than that. HP doesn't kill anyone.

And I take offense to your personal accusation of my driving style. You have no idea how I drive. Just because I own several guns doesn't mean I go out and shoot someone with them. I love owning a 500 hp car. It's something I could NEVER have afforded to own and drive as a young man. But honestly, it's almost too much. If I nail it anything over about half throttle in 2nd gear it blows the tires off. So I drive it pretty conservatively. My son will take and air it out a bit on a freeway on ramp though.... Damn kids!!
 
JoeyLincolnMK8 said:
well... i said ALMOST half, because i was basing my knowledge off motor trends as tested model which says $39k. but screw the premium package, what is that anyway a stupid navi system for almost $5k. which i can go aftermarket and only pay $1k???


why pay a grand for a navigation system when you can get a map for like 5 bucks
 
daves2000ls said:
why pay a grand for a navigation system when you can get a map for like 5 bucks

map... ha! i know where i am going. the reason i said that is because if you want to have a navi system in your car if you are that type of person. might as well go aftermarket a save 2-3k and, it does the same $hit!
 
daves2000ls said:
why pay a grand for a navigation system when you can get a map for like 5 bucks

Hell, why spend $5 when you can stop at a gas station and ask for free?
Besides, maps block my view of the road and folks tend to get upset when I start swerving because i'm reading my map. ;)
 
Qbrozen said:
Hell, why spend $5 when you can stop at a gas station and ask for free?
Besides, maps block my view of the road and folks tend to get upset when I start swerving because i'm reading my map. ;)



Why stop and ask for directions when I can use my Navi? It goes both ways. Navi is much more helpful than allot of maps can be. In hard to travel places such as New Orleans, I bet a navi system would be like gold. And like you said, if your driving and looking at a map and flipping out its pages then it is not the safest thing to do. At least a navi can be voice commanded and relatively uncomplicated to use while driving. If you really approach it in the long term, especially if you take road trips, then the navi will almost end up costing close to all the costs of multiple state maps and city maps for all the areas you will visit. Then add in the very large likelyhood of the maps getting misplaced and torn up or crap spilled all over them and it evens things out a little more. For the extra $995 I will take the safer and quicker system over a map which I will spill my coffee all over. hehe.
 
reminds me of an email I saw today...logic of why have something (HP) you won't use:

Marine Corps General Reinwald was interviewed on the radio the other day and you have to read his reply to the lady who interviewed him concerning guns and children. Regardless of how you feel about gun laws you gotta love this!!!!


This is one of the best comeback lines of all time. It is a portion of National Public Radio (NPR) interview between a female broadcaster and US Marine Corps General Reinwald who was sponsoring a Boy Scout Troop he brought to his military base.

FEMALE REPORTER: So, General Reinwald, what things are you going to teach these young boys while they're visiting your base?

GENERAL REINWALD: We're going to teach them climbing, canoeing, and shooting.

FEMALE REPORTER: Shooting! That's a bit irresponsible, isn't it?

GENERAL REINWALD: Not at all, they'll be properly supervised on the rifle range.

FEMALE REPORTER: Don't you admit that this is a terribly dangerous activity to be teaching children?

GENERAL REINWALD: No. We are very safety conscious and will be teaching them proper rifle discipline before they even touch a firearm.

FEMALE REPORTER: But you're equipping them to become violent killers.

GENERAL REINWALD: Well, Ma'am, you're equipped to be a prostitute, but you're not one, are you?

The radio went silent and the interview ended.

You gotta love the Marines!
 
Good one.

beaups said:
reminds me of an email I saw today...logic of why have something (HP) you won't use:

Marine Corps General Reinwald was interviewed on the radio the other day and you have to read his reply to the lady who interviewed him concerning guns and children. Regardless of how you feel about gun laws you gotta love this!!!!


This is one of the best comeback lines of all time. It is a portion of National Public Radio (NPR) interview between a female broadcaster and US Marine Corps General Reinwald who was sponsoring a Boy Scout Troop he brought to his military base.

FEMALE REPORTER: So, General Reinwald, what things are you going to teach these young boys while they're visiting your base?

GENERAL REINWALD: We're going to teach them climbing, canoeing, and shooting.

FEMALE REPORTER: Shooting! That's a bit irresponsible, isn't it?

GENERAL REINWALD: Not at all, they'll be properly supervised on the rifle range.

FEMALE REPORTER: Don't you admit that this is a terribly dangerous activity to be teaching children?

GENERAL REINWALD: No. We are very safety conscious and will be teaching them proper rifle discipline before they even touch a firearm.

FEMALE REPORTER: But you're equipping them to become violent killers.

GENERAL REINWALD: Well, Ma'am, you're equipped to be a prostitute, but you're not one, are you?

The radio went silent and the interview ended.

You gotta love the Marines!
 
Oh man beaups I love that post! Talk about backhanded serendipity!
 
sorry, guys, that email is old and proven to be untrue (check out snopes.com). Not that it makes it any less funny.

rocket - my comment was tongue-in-cheek. i have nothing against Nav systems and want one myself, as a matter of fact.
 
Fla02LS said:
I dont understand all the emphasis on 0-60 times and horsepower ratings when deciding to buy a car. Unless it's some sh!tbox 4 cylinder then most all cars have plenty of power to do 99.9% of the driving you need.
Need, no. Want, yes.
Fla02LS said:
This has to be a direct correlation to the number of a-hole drivers nowadays.
wtf1.jpg

Now why did you have to go and say that? That was just thoughtless.
Fla02LS said:
Everyone needs 300+ horsepower. Why?
Feels good, damn good.
Fla02LS said:
Is there such a need to prove yourself to others by having a faster car?
So...why did you buy a Lincoln?
Fla02LS said:
Its a total invasion but i'd love to see government standards of horsepower and top speed on cars.
You're right; that's pretty darn invasive.
Fla02LS said:
I looked at plenty of cars before buying my LS, and some took about two seconds after sitting in them to decide i didnt want it, never even started the engine.
That just shows that you aren't all that concerned about the engine in an expensive car.

Correction, not "just" that.

Given the attitude of your post taken in its entirety, the previous statement also implies that your belief is: nobody else should be concerned about the engine in an expensive car either.
Fla02LS said:
...its just a matter of what suits you best.
This is the only thing in your post that doesn't make you sound arrogant.
FlameOn.jpg

Flame on...
 
School_Zone said:
Need, no. Want, yes.

wtf1.jpg

Now why did you have to go and say that? That was just thoughtless.

Feels good, damn good.

So...why did you buy a Lincoln?

You're right; that's pretty darn invasive.

That just shows that you aren't all that concerned about the engine in an expensive car.

Correction, not "just" that.

Given the attitude of your post taken in its entirety, the previous statement also implies that your belief is: nobody else should be concerned about the engine in an expensive car either.

This is the only thing in your post that doesn't make you sound arrogant.
FlameOn.jpg

Flame on...


ROCK ON!!! That guy is a total arrogant freak in every one of his posts! Fla02LS, lay off the Red Bull! Take a sedative or ten! :D



No problem Qbrozen, I didnt take it in a bad way. It just gave me a chance to flip the playing field over, so to speak.
 
NAh...i guess i've got alot more going in my life than to get a hard on over how much horsepower my car has. I mean, if you feel that because you can make it to a stoplight 1-2 seconds faster then you've proved something, then i'll be the one to tell ya you havent, your just annoying. And regardless of what you say, all you people getting defensive, YOU are the a-hole driver on the road that everyone hates. I have noticed that the younger kiddies nowadays are a bunch of p*ssies, and they use stuff like a car to make up for their inadequacies. I've never been one to prove sh!t with a car. Thats not being a man. But its ok. Go race someone and you'll feel all better. Go read this thread if you havent already.... http://www.lincolnvscadillac.com/showthread.php?p=132040#post132040 . Your the mustang kind if guy arent you. Yep...you are. Something to prove.
 
Fla02LS said:
NAh...i guess i've got alot more going in my life than to get a hard on over how much horsepower my car has.
This coming from a guy with nothing better to do than hop on a message board to insult people. Yeah, you've got a whole lot going on...:rolleyes:
Fla02LS said:
your just annoying.
That's 'you're,' as in 'you're behavior has been no better than that of a 13 year old.'
Fla02LS said:
And regardless of what you say, all you people getting defensive...
Gee, why's that? Could it be that it's because you call people who like fast cars @ssholes? Because you push the idea that anyone who owns a high performace vehicle must be an un-safe driver? Yeah, you've demonstrated some logical thought with those ideas...
Fla02LS said:
YOU are the a-hole driver on the road that everyone hates.
That's great. Going by your logic, I could just as easily assume you're one of those people who likes to do 45 in the passing lanes, pissing off everyone who's behind him.

I'm starting to realize now, that for all the 'annoying' behavior you see in the younger croud, you could just as easily be as annoying to everyone else, as the young-uns are to you. You certainly are on this message board.

Riddle me this Batman: What kind of a person comes vehicle enthusiast site to start throwning insults at those who appreciate good power in a car?
Fla02LS said:
Your the mustang kind if guy arent you.

It's You're!!

Actually, I own a Lincoln but yes, I like Mustangs too.
Fla02LS said:
Yep...you are.
You know it!
Fla02LS said:
Something to prove.
Whatever man...
stfu8safe.jpg
 
Fla02LS your a troll if I ever did see one. All you do is whine about people doing this or that or whatever. Very rarely do I see you contribute anything of value (tech talk or questions) to threads. From what I have seen, your posts consist of 95% pissing and moaning and 5% somewhat useful jibber jabber. If you got a problem with people racing then when you see them, take them out of their cars anc kick their asses. Other than that just shut the heck up. It is quite apparent that no one wants to hear what you have to say. You preaching to the choir and then saying we are all idiots. Most of us probably have longer and better driving records than you do. I would also venture to say that allot of us, even those interested in fast cars, are very safety oriented. Go spew your stereotypes and epithets elsewhere as it will get your 3rd grade educated ass nowhere here. Now go and take a big bite of that for your Thanksgiving dinner... :D
 
I love that i piss you off. I love it. It just keeps me coming back, dont you see that. It kills me to think you actually spent time to read thru my posts, i'm glad to see that i must entertain you. I dont give a damn about you and could care less about your posts and theres nothing that would make me wanna search. I own a lincoln and read posts to gain info, i dont care to be the guy that has answers for everything, and i'm not here for approval, not here to make friends. I post my opinion when I see fit, thats a public forum, if you dont like it...too bad. And i'm sorry for the jibberjabber. I'll try to make sure to be the first one to throw in their "knowledge", seeing that just about every topic has been covered 200 times. As far as dragging people out of a car, would i love to...absolutely. But there's a law or two that pretty much keep me from doing that. I did make that mistake one time and luckily the other guy got back in his car and hauled ass away, turned out to be a smart decision. I initially found this site to find the fix for fogged up headlights. I never cared to make one post, But half the talk on here sounds like 8th grade bullsh!t about racing a Lincoln for crying out loud. School Zone guy...keep spell checking my posts, maybe i'll put you on payroll. Little punk kids.
 
Fla02LS said:
I love that i piss you off. I love it. It just keeps me coming back, dont you see that. It kills me to think you actually spent time to read thru my posts, i'm glad to see that i must entertain you. I dont give a damn about you and could care less about your posts and theres nothing that would make me wanna search.

Your annoyance is comparable to that of a gnat flying around my head, nothing more. Though small, it still makes me want to squash you. You actually think I searched your posts? Its called the new posts button, I use it. This thread popped up and your bitching commenced.


I own a lincoln and read posts to gain info, i dont care to be the guy that has answers for everything, and i'm not here for approval, not here to make friends. I post my opinion when I see fit, thats a public forum, if you dont like it...too bad.

Having an opinion is fine, but you present yourself like an idiot all hopped up on hallucinagens and energy drinks. It is the way you voice it. It makes you sound like a total arrogant douchebag who just whines allot. If you dont care about how you look when voicing a valid point to others then you have more to learn about adult communication than originally thought. Bottom line is its called "tact". Which you should use, because it would help you get your point across in an allot less abrasive way.


And i'm sorry for the jibberjabber. I'll try to make sure to be the first one to throw in their "knowledge", seeing that just about every topic has been covered 200 times.

Its not a matter of just giving knowledge. It is a matter of keeping from appearing like a whining child when getting a point across.

As far as dragging people out of a car, would i love to...absolutely. But there's a law or two that pretty much keep me from doing that. I did make that mistake one time and luckily the other guy got back in his car and hauled ass away, turned out to be a smart decision.

Your reality is obviously skewed, I meant that part as a joke to shed light on the situation. Any person with a mentality above adolescent would have clue'd in on that. This really lets your true personality shine through even more, keep it coming. Only a total retard would actually take someone out of their car and try to beat them up for driving like an idiot. Why break one law while trying to enforce another? You sound like a hypocrite to me. I noticed it seems you seen that in retrospect, but some things we dont have to do to learn not to do them.

snip...half the talk on here sounds like 8th grade bullsh!t...snip

Did you bother to take notice that some of the "8th grade bullsh!t" your referring to might just be coming out of your own mouth?

keep spell checking my posts, maybe i'll put you on payroll.
Little punk kids.




Again, I hate bad drivers as much as the next person, but the way you present your case is bound to ruffle feathers. Do you really expect people to listen to you if your first posts are making them feel defensive? It really makes you look like a pompous, arrogant azz who is out trying to act like the messiah of traffic laws. You do have a valid point sometimes, but you make yourself appear to be a total moron with the way you present it.
 
Ok, this kind of banter is pointless, i am only posting one more time to this thread to explain something a little further then i'm out, you can have the last word. I consistantly go 5-10 mph over the speed limit, so i'm not a perfect law obiding person, but i keep with the flow of traffic. I have lots of law enforcement friends and there is a thing referred to as the "average flow of traffic". Simply put traffic will generally flow a little over the posted limit and about 98% of cops are cool with that. So i neither impede traffic or go flying by, so i dont consider myself a problem. But like i have stated i drive a ton of miles each week and experience horrible drivers on a daily basis. Now i'm a big boy and can hold my own, but when you have a family... a wife and a 3 yr old on the roads, those bad drivers do make you more pissed off than say if you were a 19 yr old kid. So i have more reason than most to get all worked up. Now, back to me being a big boy and getting out of my car once before, i was driving about 70-75 in a 65. A POS honda civic came flying up on me and was literally 6 inchs from my bumper at 75 mph. Now as opposed to most who would floor it to prove something, i slowed alittle just to piss him off more but still going the speed limit...65. That little sh!thead mexican kid got closer and closer and eventually BUMPED me from behind, TWICE. At that point i slowed to a complete stop and jumped out of my car, he opened his door but when he saw me he jumped back in, i tried to run around behind him to get his license number and he REVERSED into oncoming traffic to get away from me and almost hit me in the process. Now, i got out because he hit my car and i have every legal right to do exactly what i did and had he not drove away HE would have been in trouble, not me. So i'm not some bully grabbing at people, but that guy crossed the line from ahole to criminal behavior. So, again, with experiencing crap like that, i have a huge chip on my shoulder when it comes to ahole drivers. Maybe where you are from they are not as common, but around here there are ahole's EVERYWHERE. Thats all i have to say, no more posts to this thread for me. You may have the last word.
 

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