Help a guy out - 4 year long project consuming...

John Hubertz

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... perhaps 3 weeks of genuine effort is not coming to fruition.

Perhaps this message thread from Rich to me to Rich will explain - the subject is finding a cheapo chinese reproduction headlight plant who will agree to mold replacement high failure rate headlights for our oem high failure rate headlights.

I just want cheap headlights. That look good. I'm too old to be able to see when I drive at night, which is why I love driving so much to hear the pretty horn sounds.

anyway.... here's the dialogue:

Dear Rich,

Hmmmph. Interesting.

Due to my failed wipers post I felt a twinge and actually started noodling the project again - although I fear your set was destroyed and the other (a smidge better) probably discarded as I sublet my garage cleaning to nefarious street people or anyone else foolish enough to work for someone whos garage can get in that condition.

I think the (quite literally) one legged man without a fake leg OR a pegleg was the last one, but he did good - amazing, considering it was like riding a unicycle, that had a shoe on - with a crutch. Drinking heavily.

He looked like a lost member of ZZtop. Really really lost.
Tom was his name...

I have them... somewhere - or at least one set. "Destructive" testing of cover removal (the clear lens) by a local injection molder who thought that freezing the capsule would make the adhesive/plastiweld brittle was... spectacularly unsuccessful. I had two donor sets though. Let me look - ps - just cuz I am NEVER off my "list" no matter how old, just yesterday I sent 2 feelers to Chinese manufacturers along with a cover letter. What I can't believe as a MB owner is how they cheerfully stamp out 4 COLORS of RIGHT HAND DRIVE dash pads for near nonexistent models of those, and ignore US! OMG someone could get rich, as every single major player recognizes the need.

Any reputable auto body part distributor would take the line, and a foot in the door would really be meaningful as we aren't the only model with the problem, and then you could sneak in the high volume stuff. I was a parts wholesale aftermarket development manager for Ford/Motorcraft for two years - I know how incredibly rare such opportunities are. Do you know ANYONE I could talk to that might understand the business potential? ALL I WANT IS TO BUY A PAIR OF $90 EACH REPLACEMENT ASSEMBLIES DAMMIT!

Humbly yours, John "the Procrastinator" Hubertz (btw, on my house repair list is a gutter downspout I replaced 1 of three rivets in, four years ago.) I'm not bragging, but I tend to be an ADHD manager for myself and my personal stuff too. I'll message back with the lamps status - would you please lift whatever makes sense from this note and create a post asking the community? We need 1 contact who knows 1 manufacturer overseas ... the rest will be as easy as waiting. My favorite activity.

mespock said:
John,

What did you ever do with that set of headlight I sent you?

Remember you had an idea about a headlight repair..

If you do and obviously this project is not going through.. I have an idea and could use them back..

Rich
:D
 
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I have a friend who gets the chinese plastic manufacturer d00ds to make the Ford Explorer 4.0 emblems that look like mustang 5.0 emblems.

I asked him about getting 1st gen Mark 8 headlights and the deal was.
100K in "tooling"...and buy 10,000 units {5000 sets) when produced.

This was straight cost from the manufacturer with my friend making ZERO.

He said he had the money in hand, if I thought I could "move 5000 sets".
At the time I only knew of 3000 mark 8 owners total..so I didn't want to waste his time, money and effort.

....and that is about where the project fell on it's face.

The end result would have been a aftermarket headlight housing that cost about 3 times what an OEM could have cost.

Since the most popular Mark 8 message board is "around" 3K users, There isn't enough "tea in china" to produce these on any mass production scale.

Geno cant get 10 people to commit to a 300 dollar tuning solution.
Doubtful we can get 100 people to cough up a grand.
 
But dont let me slow you down.
If you can strike a better deal..PLEASE feel free to Carry on.
 
We need an honorable chinaman/chinaperson to make velly velly inexpensive headrights for our cars.

I've put out some feelers - gotta be cheaper then that since some low volume mopeds have HIGHER QUALITY MOLDED LIGHTS then we do.
 
Recently i have been working for a friend who owns a mold shop.He started to mold guage pods for a few cars rather than rely on work for manufactuers(which most is sent to Mexico or China now). He did a couple Mazda's and now a Honda Accord.He is more interested in newer models but i pushed on the toughts of the Lincoln Gen1 lights. The molds for the Gen1 will cost a little more than his other ones, due to its requirements of four cavities.(left,right,backings) If he did the mold, he could also make them clear with halogens, than get the HID kit from Ebay.

PRICE would depend on the amount sold. What he does with the other parts that he molds, is the distributor will guarentee an minimum order , for a discount price. Then the distributor (Lincoln Motorsports)can retail them.

IF HE COULD SELL 500 UNITS FOR $300 , THAN HE MIGHT.

sorry if i never told anyone here before, but he has only been doing the aftermarket for less than one year, and the Gen1 would be more riskier due to volume.
 
What would the incentive be when you can buy them new for a little over $400?

My thoughts exactly.

You would have to have them for 50% or less of the new OEM price for any significant sales impact. That's $200 per pair. At a $100K hypothetical investment, you'd need to sell 500 pairs to recoup the initial investment.

You couldn't sell 500 of anything for the Mark VIII.
 
I purchased mine brand new from Team Ford for $400 bucks & it was money well spent. With the $80 dollar HID kit installed they will last a long time.

OR

Let Jamie redo your current headlights. I think he's nuts for doing it so cheap! His lights look good when they are done!!!
 
The advantage would be getting rid of those ugly looking halogens for the crystal clear lenses. Kinda like why people spent over $200 for the ones on the mustangs (87-93)(94-98)

For some of us who have not found a solution yet to the problem, i would love to purchase a crystal clear (like '96LSC) light with halogen bulbs or only $300.
 
I'm saying from the stand point of being able to see while driving at night a solution has been found.
 

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