JC1994
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She won't be getting my vote.I can't stand her. she is weird!!!
Hillary for President thread.
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dertyclown
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Ha Ha HA hellya yall!!!!!!!
JohnnyBz00LS
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MonsterMark said:Ok. I know most of the left is lining up to cast their fateful ballot for ol' Hil but I am sure you are all concerned voters and want to make sure you field the 'best' candidate. Ie: the most electable. I think you should take the time to read a book before you cut your heads off like you did with the traitor Kerry.
A new book by Edward Klein called 'The Truth About Hillary' is out and is a must read for all lefties.
This has been a public-service announcement brought to by the radical right-wingers of the LVC. Why? So we can say:'See We Told You So' in 3 years. You have been warned about Hil. If you decide to put her up for scrutiny, expect me and my millions of cohorts on the right to reveal the truth about Bill's better half.
In retort........
Posted on Wed, Jun. 29, 2005
Clinton-haters a gullible bunch
Edward Klein has written one hell of an expose. His new book on Hillary Clinton, “The Truth About Hillary: What She Knew, When She Knew It, and How Far She’ll Go to Become President,” insinuates epic mendacities, sapphic sex, fiscal improprieties and marital rape. All of that Klein documents either vaguely or not at all and is so beyond belief and good taste that the very fact his book is selling like proverbial hot cakes starkly exposes the anti-Clinton people as the village idiots of our time. It takes one to buy this book.
I did anyway. But I did so because I wanted to see if this book could possibly be as bad as its reviews. The review in the Washington Post, for instance, called it “a bad college term paper.” And while that might be expected from the supposedly hyper-liberal Post, the same verdict was reached by the Economist, the vaguely right-of-center British publication. It began its review saying just what it thought of Hillary Clinton: “There are lots of reasons to distrust or even dislike Mrs. Clinton.” Then it dismisses the tome and says Klein “should be ashamed of himself.”
The reviews are persuasive. Klein has gone so far over the top that I, an acquaintance of lo these many years, am astonished. He is, after all, the former editor of the New York Times Magazine. He was also an editor at Newsweek, which is owned by the aforementioned Washington Post, so the magazine is next door to Pravda in the fantasy neighborhood where good right-wingers live. All this leads me to conclude – Ed, you sly devil you – that Klein set out to expose the right wing for the gullible nincompoops they are. He has succeeded, and vast riches await him.
His book is flying off the shelves – more than 350,000 shipped. The other day it was No. 4 on Amazon’s best-seller list and was sold out at my sedate neighborhood bookstore when I checked. It has become a Rorschach of conservative madness – proof that they will buy anything, no matter how badly done, that attacks the Clintons or liberalism. Klein’s is just the most recent. He looked at conservatives the way P.T. Barnum looked over his audience: “There’s a sucker born every minute,” Barnum said. Klein is nodding all the way to the bank.
This calculating contempt for the IQ of right-wingers is not limited to opportunistic authors, of course. Last week it was demonstrated by Karl Rove, of all people. Speaking to the New York State Conservative Party, the president’s most important adviser had this to say: “Conservatives saw the savagery of 9/11 and the attacks and prepared for war; liberals saw the savagery of the 9/11 attacks and wanted to prepare indictments and offer therapy and understanding for our attackers.” Actually, a Los Angeles Times poll taken in November 2001 showed Bush with an approval rating approaching 90 percent and Democrats almost as supportive as Republicans for going into Afghanistan and pounding the Taliban.
So Rove’s crack is simply not true. I attribute it, possibly, to a cynical appreciation that his audience would rather hate than think. So he patronized them, knowing that they would not for a moment connect such simplistic thinking to the quagmire of Iraq, the debacle of Social Security reform or the dash back to Washington from Texas so that George W. Bush could sign a bill attempting to keep the sadly brain-dead Terri Schiavo alive.
If I were a right-winger, I would be offended by Klein and Rove. But I am not a conservative and so I can only wonder at their gullibility. Right-wingers are the useful idiots of our times, and while they have their occasional left-wing counterparts, the lefties will not buy essentially the same book over and over again.
Maybe Klein has taken this as far as it will go. I hope not. My book on Hillary’s romp with Paris Hilton will be out soon. It’s hot.
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Richard Cohen is a columnist for the Washington Post.
indust82
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MonsterMark said:
Jamler3
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Here Ya Go Folks - Gotta Love Paul Harvey
By Paul Harvey -
Conveniently Forgotten Facts
Back in 1969 a group of Black Panthers decided that a fellow black
panther named... Alex Rackley needed to die. Rackley was suspected of
disloyalty.
Rackley was first tied to a chair. Once safely immobilized, his friends
tortured him for hours by, among other things, pouring boiling water
on him.
When they got tired of torturing Rackley, Black Panther member, Warren
Kimbo took Rackley outside and put a bullet in his head. Rackley's body was
later found floating in a river about 25 miles north of New Haven, Conn.
Perhaps at this point you're curious as to what happened to these
Black Panthers.
In 1977, -- that's only eight years later, -- only one of the killers
was still in jail. The shooter, Warren Kimbo, managed to get a scholarship
to Harvard and became good friends with none other than Al Gore. He later
became an assistant dean at Eastern Connecticut State College. Isn't
that something?
As a '60s radical you can pump a bullet into someone's head, and a few
years later, in the same state, you can become an assistant college dean!
Only in America!
Erica Huggins was the lady who served the Panthers by boiling the
water for Mr. Rackley's torture. Some years later Ms. Huggins was elected to a California School Board.
How in the world do you think these killers got off so easy?
Maybe it was in some part due to the efforts of two people who came to
the defense of the Panthers. These two people actually went so far as to
shut down Yale University with demonstrations in defense of the accused Black Panthers during their trial.
One of these people was none other than Bill Lan Lee. Mr. Lee, or Mr.Lan
Lee, as the case may be, isn't a college dean. He isn't a member of a
California School Board. He is now head of the US Justice Department's
Civil Rights division, appointed by none other than Bill Clinton.
O.K., so who was the other Panther defender?
Is this other notable Panther defender now a school board member? Is
this
other Panther apologist now an assistant college dean? No, neither!
The other Panther defender was, like Lan Lee, a radical law student at
Yale University at the time. She is now known as The "smartest woman in the
world".
She is none other than the Democratic senator from the State of New
York, -our former First Lady, -- the incredible Hillary Rodham Clinton.
And now, as Paul Harvey said; You know "the rest of the story."
By Paul Harvey -
Conveniently Forgotten Facts
Back in 1969 a group of Black Panthers decided that a fellow black
panther named... Alex Rackley needed to die. Rackley was suspected of
disloyalty.
Rackley was first tied to a chair. Once safely immobilized, his friends
tortured him for hours by, among other things, pouring boiling water
on him.
When they got tired of torturing Rackley, Black Panther member, Warren
Kimbo took Rackley outside and put a bullet in his head. Rackley's body was
later found floating in a river about 25 miles north of New Haven, Conn.
Perhaps at this point you're curious as to what happened to these
Black Panthers.
In 1977, -- that's only eight years later, -- only one of the killers
was still in jail. The shooter, Warren Kimbo, managed to get a scholarship
to Harvard and became good friends with none other than Al Gore. He later
became an assistant dean at Eastern Connecticut State College. Isn't
that something?
As a '60s radical you can pump a bullet into someone's head, and a few
years later, in the same state, you can become an assistant college dean!
Only in America!
Erica Huggins was the lady who served the Panthers by boiling the
water for Mr. Rackley's torture. Some years later Ms. Huggins was elected to a California School Board.
How in the world do you think these killers got off so easy?
Maybe it was in some part due to the efforts of two people who came to
the defense of the Panthers. These two people actually went so far as to
shut down Yale University with demonstrations in defense of the accused Black Panthers during their trial.
One of these people was none other than Bill Lan Lee. Mr. Lee, or Mr.Lan
Lee, as the case may be, isn't a college dean. He isn't a member of a
California School Board. He is now head of the US Justice Department's
Civil Rights division, appointed by none other than Bill Clinton.
O.K., so who was the other Panther defender?
Is this other notable Panther defender now a school board member? Is
this
other Panther apologist now an assistant college dean? No, neither!
The other Panther defender was, like Lan Lee, a radical law student at
Yale University at the time. She is now known as The "smartest woman in the
world".
She is none other than the Democratic senator from the State of New
York, -our former First Lady, -- the incredible Hillary Rodham Clinton.
And now, as Paul Harvey said; You know "the rest of the story."
fossten
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MonsterMark said:
Hillary must be scared of the book b/c she has done everything she can to stop it including threatening not to give interviews to any network that has the author on their station. And so he is kept off the air. And his book still soars.
fossten
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JohnnyBz00LS said:
Of course he is! You don't have to think for yourself when you can just quote liberal rags like the WP.
MonsterMark
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fossten
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MonsterMark said:
Yeah, just like how successful "The West Wing" was, right? A few years of that liberal infomercial and we elected, then reelected a Republican. :N
MonsterMark
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I want to vomit
Now Hillary wants to recruit more poor black kids to become victims of terrorist bombings. She will do ANYTHING to get elected.
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Dems aim to increase army size
A team of Senate and House Democrats today are planning to introduce legislation today aimed at significantly increasing size of the U.S. Army.
Sen. Joseph Lieberman (D-Conn.), ranking member of the Senate Armed Services (SASC) airland subcommittee, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.), a SASC member, and Reps. Ellen Tauscher (D-Calif.) and Mark Udall (D-Colo.), both members of the House Armed Services committee, are pressing for the passage of the United States Army Relief Act.
The legislation seeks to raise the cap of the Army’s end strength, said an aide to Tauscher.
The Army already is working on increasing its troop levels by 30,000. Army chief of staff, Gen. Peter Schoomaker, has said on numerous occasions that it costs about $1.2 billion a year for every 10,000 people added to the Army.
Both the House and the Senate have called for an increase in troop levels in their 2006 defense authorization bill and it is likely that troop levels will be increased when the conferees meet. Roxana Tiron
Now Hillary wants to recruit more poor black kids to become victims of terrorist bombings. She will do ANYTHING to get elected.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Dems aim to increase army size
A team of Senate and House Democrats today are planning to introduce legislation today aimed at significantly increasing size of the U.S. Army.
Sen. Joseph Lieberman (D-Conn.), ranking member of the Senate Armed Services (SASC) airland subcommittee, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.), a SASC member, and Reps. Ellen Tauscher (D-Calif.) and Mark Udall (D-Colo.), both members of the House Armed Services committee, are pressing for the passage of the United States Army Relief Act.
The legislation seeks to raise the cap of the Army’s end strength, said an aide to Tauscher.
The Army already is working on increasing its troop levels by 30,000. Army chief of staff, Gen. Peter Schoomaker, has said on numerous occasions that it costs about $1.2 billion a year for every 10,000 people added to the Army.
Both the House and the Senate have called for an increase in troop levels in their 2006 defense authorization bill and it is likely that troop levels will be increased when the conferees meet. Roxana Tiron
JohnnyBz00LS
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Jeezzzus Bryan, you should see a shrink. How you've twisted an bi-partisan initiative (that just so happens to be initiated by some Dems, who you've long bitched about being "part of the problem and not the solution"......... now they come with a proposal and you are still not happy) into some sick, twisted re-election campaign on the backs of "poor black kids" is disgusting.
Really, seriously. Get some help.
Really, seriously. Get some help.
MonsterMark
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What I posted there is what the headline would have said if a Republican had offered up this legislation. Bi-partisan? Ha. Partisan. All it is a ploy by the Democrats to try to look strong on defense. It is all so painfully pathetic.JohnnyBz00LS said:
It is almost impossible to follow the ball. 1st they want to do something about the attacks, then they don't want to follow up, then we do and everybody's happy, then things don't go well and the weasles start bitching, then we have to pull out and now we have to hire more troops. Give me a break.
Remember when Hillary was President and Bill was busy in the Oral Office? She and Bill tried to dismantle the military! And now because she is running for office, we are supposed to believe she is a hawk and wants to BUILD the military? You my friend are the one in need of immediate medical attention. Republicans need to perform a reverse lobotomy on you to cure you of your gullibility.
And where do you think all these recuits are going to come from? According to Democrats, the US fights wars on the backs of the poor and black in this country so it would only serve to make sense that the Democrats will reach into the poorest neighborhoods to find their 'recruits'. Mark my words, if there is a draft, it will be the Democrats that propose it. Oh, wait, my bad. The Democrats already did that.
The left is the laughing stock of the world. Thank God we have you purely for the entertainment value you provide the rest of us.
bufordtpisser
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You are right.
Personal bankruptcies did indeed peak during GWB's first four year stint. But bankruptcy isnot something that happens overnight. Those bankruptcies or the spending frenzies that caused them started duringthe Clinton years. You don't just go out onedayand spend thousands and the next day file bankruptcy. It is that samd short sighted attitude that will get another Clinton in the Whitehouse. Boo Hoo Hoo, look what GWB did to us. Give us all a break, he inherited this mess from the so called little fat intern chasing leader that was in place the previous eight years. If Little WIllie would have done his job, we would not be in this mess now. Next time you do your history lesson, take off the blinders, read all of the words. Not just the ones that have pictures.
JohnnyBz00LS said:
Personal bankruptcies did indeed peak during GWB's first four year stint. But bankruptcy isnot something that happens overnight. Those bankruptcies or the spending frenzies that caused them started duringthe Clinton years. You don't just go out onedayand spend thousands and the next day file bankruptcy. It is that samd short sighted attitude that will get another Clinton in the Whitehouse. Boo Hoo Hoo, look what GWB did to us. Give us all a break, he inherited this mess from the so called little fat intern chasing leader that was in place the previous eight years. If Little WIllie would have done his job, we would not be in this mess now. Next time you do your history lesson, take off the blinders, read all of the words. Not just the ones that have pictures.
MonsterMark
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Man, I wish I could fail my up to become President of the United States!JohnnyBz00LS said:
THE MOST POWERFUL MAN IN THE WORLD!
Ya, just the sound of that sounds like failure to me.
G W B... The greatest President we will ever SEE!
fossten
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bufordtpisser said:
Nice! :N :I :wave *owned*
JohnnyBz00LS
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bufordtpisser said:
Typical RWW response, blame it on Clinton.
You are assuming that those filing bankruptcy are a bunch of low-lifes who Clinton enticed into racking up large debts with no intention of paying it off. The reality (I know it's hard for you RWW to grasp it, but play along for a sec) of this situation is that the credit industry bribed GOP leaders into de-regulation allowing dishonest "entrapment" policies & hidden fines to be imbedded into C-C agreements while hiding evidence thereof from the consumer with false advertising and empty promises. It doesn't take long before the consumer realizes that his rates start soaring making it more difficult to keep up payments. Compound that by the fact that when BuSh took office, huge job losses, smaller pay increases and a failing economy ensued making pay-off of C-C debts impossible. The consumer, duped by the C-C industry, and having the carpet pulled out from under them by the BuSh administration, is left with no alternative but to file bankruptcy.
So what did BuSh and his C-C buddies do? Make it more difficult for the screwed consumer to file bankruptcy. You cannot deny that the recent BOOM of bankruptcy filings is a direct result of people bailing out before this latest legislation takes effect.
*owned*
Don't look for me to feel sorry for the C-C industry, they got what they deserved w/ each bankruptcy award to the consumer. I'm all for personal responsibilty, but the C-C industry can at least reciprocate w/ honest, upfront treatment of it's customers. When they turned into a bunch of low-life loan sharks, protected by the government, my sympathy stops.
FreeFaller
USAF LS8
And why shouldn't the government step up and protect the CC industry. If you renege on your contract you should be liable to hefty fines. You should not be allowed to "back door" your way out of it through bankruptcy. I think bankruptcy should come with jail time.
Also...don't try to say that you did not benifit from the .com boom. The entire country rode that gravy train for all that it was worth. Those who did not choose to remember history (October 29th 1929) and prepare for the inevitable popping of that bubble were idiots.
Don't get me wrong. I don't think President Clinton was to blame at all...that would give him credit for it in the first place which is a total fallacy. Also, don't think that President Bush came into the office with a desire to rob you of your hard earned money. I love how you people sit there bitching and moaning about how the evil corporate empires are plotting against your every desire. Complaining that you have to work a little harder to make ends meet when there are people in this world that would be more than happy to live in your dog house. "Aww jeez...it's costing me an extra 15 bucks to fill up the gas tank in my Navigator." Sitting there saying you don't have enough when your belly is fat. It just makes me sick.
I don't have a problem with people keeping a watchful on on our representatives in this government. Hell, I applaud it. However, your persistant belief that all your woes sit squarely on the shoulders of the current administration is preposterous.
Also...don't try to say that you did not benifit from the .com boom. The entire country rode that gravy train for all that it was worth. Those who did not choose to remember history (October 29th 1929) and prepare for the inevitable popping of that bubble were idiots.
Don't get me wrong. I don't think President Clinton was to blame at all...that would give him credit for it in the first place which is a total fallacy. Also, don't think that President Bush came into the office with a desire to rob you of your hard earned money. I love how you people sit there bitching and moaning about how the evil corporate empires are plotting against your every desire. Complaining that you have to work a little harder to make ends meet when there are people in this world that would be more than happy to live in your dog house. "Aww jeez...it's costing me an extra 15 bucks to fill up the gas tank in my Navigator." Sitting there saying you don't have enough when your belly is fat. It just makes me sick.
I don't have a problem with people keeping a watchful on on our representatives in this government. Hell, I applaud it. However, your persistant belief that all your woes sit squarely on the shoulders of the current administration is preposterous.
fossten
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JohnnyBz00LS said:
It's typical to assign blame where it constantly is due.
JohnnyBz00LS
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FreeFaller said:
I agree. If home mortage loans were "regulated" as loosely as un-secured loans (credit cards), you'd see alot more homeless people. Un-secured loans should have at least some of the same safeguards to keep the lender from changing the rules in the middle of the game. "Truth in lending" disclosures and the restrictions that come with it need to be applicable across the spectrum of lines of credit.
FreeFaller said:
No, he just stood at the door of the "screw the american consumer party" and took the money of the paying industries.
MonsterMark
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Do you have ANY proof of all of Bush's ill gotten gains? Or are you dancing in the dark again?JohnnyBz00LS said:
JohnnyBz00LS
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MonsterMark said:
Quit acting like you don't know how the government works. It's a well known fact that the banking lobbyists lined the pockets of the RNC and the GOP to help get their legislation passed through. I don't have to show you a direct-deposit from Citibank to GW's personal banking account to prove my point.
fossten
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JohnnyBz00LS said:
First of all, having worked in the Financial Industry, I know that the CC industry doesn't need the gov.'s help to rip people off. They've been doing that for 150 years, long before Bush was president, and during repub and dem presidencies alike.
Second of all, it's not illegal to take campaign contributions. Dems and republicans alike get donations from rich corporations.
JohnnyBz00LS
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fossten said:
Oh, I have no doubt that is true. But then, WHY is BuSh & co. compelled to provide government help to them to screw people further?? Isn't one of the primary roles of government to protect it's people? No so, it seems, w/ GW in office.
JohnnyBz00LS
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Kbob said:
And one could argue that using investors money to extend lines of credit to high risk consumers is irresponsible as well.
:F
Hey, lets get real here. Risk is always part of the loan game. Why should the government stick it's nose in the buisness and tilt the risk scales one way or another? Yes, this new legislation will stop most of the low-lifes from taking advantage of the system, but there will also be "collateral damage" from folks who legitamately do need the protection bankruptcy provides and will no longer will have it.