Huckabee interview on Glenn Beck

[fossten]

The authority of the U. S. Government is derived from the U. S. Constitution. It is not derived from the Charter for the Colony Connecticut. The U. S. Constitution says nothing about pleasing almighty God or divine providence.

Another straw man argument. So what?

 

[Mick Jagger]

I wish to provide a few historical quotes from our Founding Era that lend credence to the supposition that we indeed were founded as a Christian nation....

...Most of the fifty-five Founding Fathers who worked on the Constitution were members of orthodox Christian churches and many were even evangelical Christians.

That's not an historical quote, dude.

PS: The term "evangelical Christians" didn't even exist at the time the nation was founded.

The first official act in the First Continental Congress was to open in Christian prayer, which ended in these words: "...the merits of Jesus Christ, Thy Son, our Savior. Amen". Sounds Christian to me.

Show us some evidence that the lawmakers meant for us to gather the meaning of the U. S. Constitution from the acts of the Continental Congress.

PS: It wasn't the first act of the Continental Congress and the practice was discontinued in 1784.

 

[Mick Jagger]

Another straw man argument. So what?

The U. S. Constitution says nothing about the United States being a Christian Nation.

PS: What exactly is a "Christian Nation?"

 

[fossten]

The U. S. Constitution says nothing about the United States being a Christian Nation.

PS: What exactly is a "Christian Nation?"

Your ramblings aren't even connected to each other, and your questions are loaded. You aren't interested in learning anything here.

 

[shagdrum]

What exactly is a "Christian Nation?"

THERE is the question! This country never has been a "Christian Nation" in the same sense of what many European countries were at the time of the founding, specifically, England. we never were a traditional Christian nation.

We were founded as a Christian nation in the sense that this nation was founded by Christians (with many Christian ideas and ideals heavily influencing the Constitution) and for a religious people, who at the time were mostly Christians of one variety or another. So, we were a Christian nation in as much as we were a nation made up of Christians and with a federal government informed by Christianity (but not subscribing exclusively to it). That is why Christianity is very much a part of our national traditions.

This is in contrast to other countries and governments that came about shortly after the U.S. Most of them were influence by French Enlightenment thinking and specifically rejected religion, and Christianity in particular; basically, creating purely secular governments.

America was unique in that is embraced Christianity and religion like England, but also worked to keep the national government from influencing and excerting power over religion, or creating a national religion.

 

[Mick Jagger]

I wish to provide a few historical quotes from our Founding Era that lend credence to the supposition that we indeed were founded as a Christian nation...

...Ben Franklin, at the Constitutional Convention, said: "...God governs in the affairs of men. And if a sparrow cannot fall to the ground without His notice is it probable that an empire can rise without His aid?"

How does that make the United States a Christian Nation?

 

[Mick Jagger]

Recently, many authors have debated whether or not the United States of America was founded as a Christian nation. I wish to provide a few historical quotes from our Founding Era that lend credence to the supposition that we indeed were founded as a Christian nation...

John Adams stated so eloquently during this period of time that; "The general principles on which the fathers achieved Independence were ... the general principles of Christianity ... I will avow that I then believed, and now believe, that the general principles of Christianity are as etemal and immutable as the existence and attributes of God."

What exactly were the "general principles of Christianity", according to Mr. Adams?

 

[Mick Jagger]

THERE is the question! This country never has been a "Christian Nation" in the same sense of what many European countries were at the time of the founding, specifically, England. we never were a traditional Christian nation.

We were founded as a Christian nation in the sense that this nation was founded by Christians (with many Christian ideas and ideals heavily influencing the Constitution) and for a religious people, who at the time were mostly Christians of one variety or another. So, we were a Christian nation in as much as we were a nation made up of Christians and with a federal government informed by Christianity (but not subscribing exclusively to it). That is why Christianity is very much a part of our national traditions.

This is in contrast to other countries and governments that came about shortly after the U.S. Most of them were influence by French Enlightenment thinking and specifically rejected religion, and Christianity in particular; basically, creating purely secular governments.

America was unique in that is embraced Christianity and religion like England, but also worked to keep the national government from influencing and excerting power over religion, or creating a national religion.

The U. S. was founded as an Atheist Nation because the Constitution does not even acknowledge God. Only godless heathens would have done that.

 

[shagdrum]

The U. S. was founded as an Atheist Nation because the Constitution does not even acknowledge God. Only godless heathens would have done that.

You are just trying to argue here and create strife, I take it. Lookin to cause trouble... nothing intellegent to offer.

You are a waste of time.

 

[Mick Jagger]

You are just trying to argue here and create strife, I take it. Lookin to cause trouble... nothing intellegent to offer.

You are a waste of time.

I was just being the Presbyterian's advocate, dude.

 

[fossten]

I was just being the Presbyterian's advocate, dude.

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