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well I did have to adjust how i drive. it took a few months getting used to. the roads around here aren't bad at all, they're always well maintained. i know when i went to dallas for the weekend i couldn't imagine owning 20s in that city. it was unbelieveable with the drop and 20s, too many potholes and bumps in the road. houston is flat so im never worried about it
 
Dead President said:
well I did have to adjust how i drive. it took a few months getting used to. the roads around here aren't bad at all, they're always well maintained. i know when i went to dallas for the weekend i couldn't imagine owning 20s in that city. it was unbelieveable with the drop and 20s, too many potholes and bumps in the road. houston is flat so im never worried about it
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Well I just talked to Suspenion Maxx and they were willing to work with me but said the look and handling is awesome with this combination. So, I guess I'll give this a shot.
 
I want to put the eibach springs on with an LSE bodykit. Does the body kit make it lower and by how much.
 
Having the LSE body kit doesn't make the car any lower than it already is. I have the LSE body kit on my car with Eibach's. You can check it out in my car gallery.
 
GrayGhost1 said:
Having the LSE body kit doesn't make the car any lower than it already is. I have the LSE body kit on my car with Eibach's. You can check it out in my car gallery.
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I too have an LSE with 18" wheels and Eibach Springs. See mine in my Gallery.
 
GWL said:
I too have an LSE with 18" wheels and Eibach Springs. See mine in my Gallery.
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yeah I saw yours and that's what scared the crap out of me. yours already looks low and mine will be 1/2 inch lower. By the way your LS is beautiful.
 
ltnate3 said:
yeah I saw yours and that's what scared the crap out of me. yours already looks low and mine will be 1/2 inch lower. By the way your LS is beautiful.
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Thanks. Not much left for me to do, but wait for the next viable modification. It is the one frustrating thing about owning an LS. There are not many performance mods out there for this engine/chassis combination.
 
I used SpringTechs, got about 1.75". Still running stock tires, going to 18's when it's time for new rubber.

I hit certain speed bumps, but going slow and at a slight angle helps
 
Black03 said:
I used SpringTechs, got about 1.75". Still running stock tires, going to 18's when it's time for new rubber.

I hit certain speed bumps, but going slow and at a slight angle helps
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That's good to hear. I don't mind the speed bumps but I was under the impression I wouldn't be able to drive the car. Do your tires rub at all with passengers?
 
I just found a place to install my springs (Midwest Customs). They said $200 for the install and $50 for the alignment which is done at Meineke. Now, is that too much to pay and should I be worried that the alignment will done at Meineke? Thanks!
 
I went to a Midas and they wanted like 400 to do mine, not including alignment. I had them done by a Ford tech at a collision center for 200 cash, included allignment.
 
ltnate3 said:
I just found a place to install my springs (Midwest Customs). They said $200 for the install and $50 for the alignment which is done at Meineke. Now, is that too much to pay and should I be worried that the alignment will done at Meineke? Thanks!
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My dealer charged just over $300.00 to replace the springs and align the front and rear of the car. Both must be done.
 
Quik LS said:
are you sure Meineke can't do both? Midas did both of mine.
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You know what Quick, I never asked. I think I will call Midas and Meineke. So I take it you had no problems using them. Well if it's good enough for you then it's good enough for me.
 
Im curious about ride quality. I love the way my LS rides now and it is a little stiff stock. How much more stiff will the ride be? Ive been considering going 1 inch lower as well but I drive a lot and dont want to be bouncing and bottoming out all over the place.
 
bhdau1 said:
Im curious about ride quality. I love the way my LS rides now and it is a little stiff stock. How much more stiff will the ride be? Ive been considering going 1 inch lower as well but I drive a lot and dont want to be bouncing and bottoming out all over the place.
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Ride quality is so subjective that it is difficult to quantify in a meaningful way without actually trying the springs. When I changed from Sport to Eibach springs it felt to me to be only slightly stiffer than the stock springs. If I could have lowered my car and maintained the stock spring rate, I would have. However, the improvement in handling was worth the slightly stiffer ride. Be advised that you do have to be alert for curbs, speed bumps and driveways with a 1" lower LS.
:Beer
 
bhdau1 said:
Im curious about ride quality. I love the way my LS rides now and it is a little stiff stock. How much more stiff will the ride be? Ive been considering going 1 inch lower as well but I drive a lot and dont want to be bouncing and bottoming out all over the place.
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Expect a considerably stiffer ride. It won't "float" over potholes and you'll feel cracks in concrete highways. The most positive aspect, aside from closing the gaps in the wheel wells and the general lowered appearance, is in handling through curves.
 
ltnate3 said:
I've asked this before but really never got an answer. Is one better than the other or are they basically the same? Thanks!
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Ok the shop just called and said my springs are in and the alignment is good. Now how can the alignment be good? I thought it was automatic that the alignment would be out of wack? Help before I go pick it up.
 
They should be able to get it pretty close but I don't think it will be perfect. The fronts should be fine if I remember but the rears are a little off.
 
ltnate3 said:
Ok the shop just called and said my springs are in and the alignment is good. Now how can the alignment be good? I thought it was automatic that the alignment would be out of wack? Help before I go pick it up.
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Mine was pretty close, only the camber needed adjustment.
 
ltnate3 said:
Ok the shop just called and said my springs are in and the alignment is good. Now how can the alignment be good? I thought it was automatic that the alignment would be out of wack? Help before I go pick it up.
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Ok everyone below are the results of my alignment after lowering 1.75. Can someone please tell me if this is ok or do I need to take it back.

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ltnate3 said:
Ok everyone below are the results of my alignment after lowering 1.75. Can someone please tell me if this is ok or do I need to take it back.
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That looks fine, it is nearly impossible to get perfect alignment on a used car. I watched an Auto Mechanic teacher do my alignment and a couple places couldn't be perfect without replacing large parts.

Can you post some new pics with the lowered springs?
 
Midas78 said:
That looks fine, it is nearly impossible to get perfect alignment on a used car. I watched an Auto Mechanic teacher do my alignment and a couple places couldn't be perfect without replacing large parts.

Can you post some new pics with the lowered springs?
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I wonder why the Caster is out? Won't hurt anything, but I don't see why lowering the car would bump the Caster up. Just do not know enough about the geometry of our suspension I guess.
 
GWL said:
I wonder why the Caster is out? Won't hurt anything, but I don't see why lowering the car would bump the Caster up. Just do not know enough about the geometry of our suspension I guess.
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George,

When I had my car lowered the dealer couldn't get the caster adjusted enough so mine is out. I have slight oversteer sometimes on hard bumps but since I've had my car lowered for well over 2 years now I'm use to it. I guess there isn't that much adjustment for caster on LS.

A little off on caster shouldn't create any problems. Maybe just a little oversteer at times when going over bumps.
 
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