Is Suffering Part of God's Plan?

[fossten]

The opposite is true, anyone who reads his post know were he stands, he adds a lot to this forum.
I like reading his posts to find out his point of view.


ROFL this forum???
fossten keeps it contentious.
Thanks for the morning laugh.



What about all the insults hurled at find?

He came on here clean, once the insults started he just responded to them and responded to them well I might add.

Again you show what a team player you are.

Come on Ford Nut, you haven't been reading all FIND's posts. He definitely didn't come here clean.

He's a classic flame baiter, provoking with sarcasm and insults and then playing victim when people respond in kind. You tell him he's using poor logic in his posts and he whines and says you're personally attacking him. If you give him a taste of his own medicine he can't take it.

He doesn't stake out any positions or stand on anything in this forum - he only picks at others and their positions.

Don't let your personal vendetta against me cloud your judgment.

 

[Calabrio]

What about all the insults hurled at find?

We seem to have a lot of cheerleader/referees here who have nothing to contribute to advancing the conversation.

First of all, he didn't "come on clean," he actually came on in an extremely defensive and blusterous way. The problem is, he has no argument. He has been reluctant to add anything to the conversation short of, "No it's not" while then insulting the intelligence of the people he wanted to disagree with.

Frankly, I'd prefer that we all put that behind us and FIND, rather than automatically nay-saying things he clearly doesn't understand, participates to a conversation, as he's demonstrated the ability to do in some of the threads. Either by asking questions or presenting THOUGHTFUL challenges. If we can move past the knee-jerk defensiveness, we can have an interesting forum.

 

[ford nut]

Come on Ford Nut, you haven't been reading all FIND's posts. He definitely didn't come here clean.

He's a classic flame baiter, provoking with sarcasm and insults and then playing victim when people respond in kind. You tell him he's using poor logic in his posts and he whines and says you're personally attacking him. If you give him a taste of his own medicine he can't take it.

He doesn't stake out any positions or stand on anything in this forum - he only picks at others and their positions.

Don't let your personal vendetta against me cloud your judgment.

I have read his posts and I have my own opinion, no surprise it differs from yours.

Personal vendetta ? lol
Foss I can't stand your politics or how you post in this forum.
Not so sure I would call that a personal vendetta.
Any post you have had outside of the forum has been fine and I have had no problem with.
Any car questions I answer and help the best I can.

 

[fossten]

I have read his posts and I have my own opinion, no surprise it differs from yours.

Personal vendetta ? lol
Foss I can't stand your politics or how you post in this forum.
Not so sure I would call that a personal vendetta.
Any post you have had outside of the forum has been fine and I have had no problem with.
Any car questions I answer and help the best I can.

You know the only time you ever post in here is to take shots at me or to cheerlead others that I'm in a discussion with. I also know why - and it isn't my politics, because my politics is no different than Cal's or Shag's - but you don't attack them, ever. It's because I castigated you for calling Bristol Palin a whore, and you got all butt hurt about it. Still carrying that grudge around, I see.

But if it bothers you so much, maybe you should stay out. I have yet to see you actually post something substantive here. If you're not part of the solution then you're part of the problem.

 

[ford nut]

We seem to have a lot of cheerleader/referees here who have nothing to contribute to advancing the conversation.

I hope you include yourself here.

First of all, he didn't "come on clean," he actually came on in an extremely defensive and blusterous way. The problem is, he has no argument. He has been reluctant to add anything to the conversation short of, "No it's not" while then insulting the intelligence of the people he wanted to disagree with.

I follow this site and this Forum.
Find came here with a Towncar.
Posted in the Welcome Wagon Forum.
Found it dead, wandered over here, got into it with Shag.
Foxpaws and 04SCTLS explain to Find how Shag works "a very good description I might add"
Then you come to the rescue...like you always do.

Frankly, I'd prefer that we all put that behind us and FIND, rather than automatically nay-saying things he clearly doesn't understand, participates to a conversation, as he's demonstrated the ability to do in some of the threads. Either by asking questions or presenting THOUGHTFUL challenges. If we can move past the knee-jerk defensiveness, we can have an interesting forum.

Those are empty words.
Start with your own posts.
Your not shy to insult.

Find adds to this forum.....that is my opinion ......I hope he sticks around.

 

[fossten]

I hope you include yourself here.

I follow this site and this Forum.
Find came here with a Towncar.
Posted in the Welcome Wagon Forum.
Found it dead, wandered over here, got into it with Shag.
Foxpaws and 04SCTLS explain to Find how Shag works "a very good description I might add"
Then you come to the rescue...like you always do.

Dude, Cal's a moderator. Get over yourself.

As far as FIND starting here, it's a very common tactic to establish a thin veil of bona fides before trolling. I'm surprised even you are too blind to see it.

As FIND likes to say about Obama, 'time will tell.' But if he keeps up with the defensiveness and rage, it will be pretty clear that he had every intention of trolling this forum.

You clearly only support those who agree with you politically. Don't stroll around here with some sort of halo, like you're above the fray and don't have a bone of contention. As I've said, the only time you show up here is to troll. Personally, I don't care if he sticks around, but if he continues to post nonsense, I'll call him out for it.

 

[PetesSweets86]

how else are you a jew and a christian?

already posted similar response

he's an extremist christian jew

 

[fossten]

already posted similar response

he's an extremist christian jew

Pete, when it comes to health supplements, you clearly know what you're talking about.

Unfortunately, that's about it, and we don't talk about that stuff in this forum.

 

[PetesSweets86]

sometime yall do, especially when it's a political debate or social issue pertaining to current events or news

 

[04SCTLS]

sometime yall do, especially when it's a political debate or social issue pertaining to current events or news

And joker that you are you enter the room and metaphorically cut the cheeze

 

[hrmwrm]

I'm not a "messianic Jew." I am a direct descendant of a Jewish immigrant to the United States. Funny how you are so obsessed with labels.

not obsessed with labels as much as you, like socialist, commy, etc.

was just wondering, when did jew become a race? if you don't practice the religion, you're not one.
that would make me a christian. but i know better than that.

 

[ford nut]

Dude, Cal's a moderator. Get over yourself.

Yes he is.....I remember when you wanted to add him to your ignore list.

 

[hrmwrm]

First of all, he didn't "come on clean," he actually came on in an extremely defensive and blusterous way.

because he has an opinion of the hate the right posts here?
he stated an opinion, then was attacked for that opinion.
but that statement shows your bias.

Frankly, I'd prefer that we all put that behind us and FIND, rather than automatically nay-saying things he clearly doesn't understand

dismissing and marginalizing him doesn't help your cause either.
there was no need to say that without including the circular reasoner and belligerent troll that always show up together.
that's all the right crew do on here, is insult those who disagree, then whine when it's thrown back.

 

[cammerfe]

...because he has an opinion of the hate the right posts...

Gee, I'm probably part of 'the right' here and I don't hate anybody. I think some of the left/progressive S H I T we see here is more than a little silly most of the time; this is because you L/Ps often display such desperate attempts at erudition while having trouble with definitions and even basic spelling. But keep at it---it's often good for a snicker, at least. And the feelings you engender with your posts don't begin to rise to hate.

KS

 

[fossten]

not obsessed with labels as much as you, like socialist, commy, etc.

was just wondering, when did jew become a race? if you don't practice the religion, you're not one.
that would make me a christian. but i know better than that.

You don't get to decide whether or not somebody is a Jew. I can't very well call myself an Israeli, can I?

This is the level to which this forum has sunk - a stupid atheist (whose every word is meaningless by his own definition) is insisting that someone who is descended from a Jewish immigrant isn't a Jew because he doesn't practice Judaism.

First you call me a messianic Jew, then you say I'm not a Jew.

You're not too bright.

 

[hrmwrm]

it's you who's not too bright.
call yourself a christian, then say you're a jew, yet you don't practice judaism.
your no more a jew than i am.

First you call me a messianic Jew,

that would be the only explanation for being a christian and jewish.

 

[hrmwrm]

Gee, I'm probably part of 'the right' here

ya think?

and I don't hate anybody.

riiiigght. i'll believe you where others wouldn't.

this is because you L/Ps often display such desperate attempts at erudition while having trouble with definitions and even basic spelling.

sure. like the difference between whether and weather.
oh, wait. that's a righty thats still confused.

it's often good for a snicker, at least.

the right's good for that.
that's why i visit here.
you're one of the funniest in your rare posts.

And the feelings you engender with your posts don't begin to rise to hate.

more of that irony.

 

[hrmwrm]

This is the level to which this forum has sunk - a stupid atheist (whose every word is meaningless by his own definition) is insisting that someone who is descended from a Jewish immigrant isn't a Jew because he doesn't practice Judaism.

3: If Foss is wrong, he gets REALLY angry, then spews insults.

he's right.

 

[shagdrum]

...if you have no knowledge of something, its non-existence is a certainty.

So, if I have no knowledge of the car in my driveway, it doesn't exist?

 

[hrmwrm]

So, if I have no knowledge of the car in my driveway, it doesn't exist?

you'd have knowledge. you would see it.
it's existence is real.
but then , we were not talking of something of a material nature, were we.
except maybe to you and fossten and a few others.
how's the imaginary freind?

 

[hrmwrm]

This is the level to which this forum has sunk - a stupid atheist (whose every word is meaningless by his own definition) is insisting that someone who is descended from a Jewish immigrant isn't a Jew because he doesn't practice Judaism.

you celebrate hanukkah or christmas?
my grandma is also a jewish immigrant. guess i'm jewish too.
what an idiot.

 

[04SCTLS]

I hold the opinion of doers in higher esteem than that of talkers and posers.

The talkers may be good at their talking but it's the doers opinion that matters.

 

[fossten]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXtvdwZgU-U&feature=related

 

[shagdrum]

you'd have knowledge. you would see it.

You are changing my question. I said no knowledge. That means you don't see it.

Apparently you can't answer my question and have to dodge it.

but then , we were not talking of something of a material nature, were we.

So you are assuming materialism. Again.

 

[cammerfe]

ya think?

riiiigght. i'll believe you where others wouldn't.



sure. like the difference between whether and weather.
oh, wait. that's a righty thats still confused.




the right's good for that.
that's why i visit here.
you're one of the funniest in your rare posts.



more of that irony.

You make my point.
KS