pagluy
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You got it backwards you :q:q:q:qing retard.
It's official- 2010 Ford Taurus SHO with EcoBoost- 0-60 in 5.2 seconds
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You got it backwards you :q:q:q:qing retard.
captainalias
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Now you're just changing your tune.It most definitely is not an LS replacement. Not even a Conti - the MkZ is the replacement for the Conti. The LS replaced the Mark 8, and there's no current replacement for that. Yet.
Hey hey, I never said the MKS was a *direct* replacement for the LS, although it does replace the LS.
The MKS also replaces the Conti, TC, and as someone else mentioned, the Mark VIII.So the Taurus is a distance cousin.
PetesSweets86
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Still underlooking the fact that the interior is basically the LS interior, hense why I say the T-bird is just a downsized, non luxury, convertible LS
PetesSweets86
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correct
PetesSweets86
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How is it backwards then? The T-bird is a luxury convertible of the LS?
Consumer Guide® Road-Test Evaluation
European in flavor, the LS is the dynamic equal of some costly import sedans. Low-speed steering feel could be firmer, but an LS turns crisply, cornering with grippy precision and modest body lean. Highway stability is impressive even in gusty crosswinds. The optional Sport Package controls body motions better than the base suspension, yet the ride remains pleasantly supple. Acceleration with the V8 feels strong. A test LS reached 60 mph in 7.3 seconds. An automatic-transmission V6 takes 9.3 seconds, according to Lincoln--not outstanding, yet the car feels adequately powered except on steep inclines or when real passing punch is required. Lincoln's automatic transmission can delay in responding to throttle inputs, though not as much as the S-Type's, and is slow to kick down for passing. Overall shift smoothness isn't the best, especially compared with BMW and Audi automatics. Lincoln's manual gearbox also lags, with notchy shift action and indistinct clutch movement. A V8 LS averaged 16.3 mpg using premium fuel, while a manual-shift V6 got 19.6 mpg. Engine sounds are muted, but tire noise intrudes on some coarse surfaces, which also yields some minor body drumming. Braking is swift and sure, despite indecisive pedal action. Although the interior feels less cramped than the S-Type's, the practical limit is four adults. Head clearance is so-so, but rear leg space is good even behind tall front occupants. An all-button climate system is not so easy to use. Large mirrors offset visibility lost to thickish rear roof pillars. Inside storage is limited, and only small suitcases stand upright in the trunk, which lacks fore/aft depth and has bulky hinges.
Value for the Money
Highly capable and mannerly on the road, an LS delivers a lot of features for the money. In addition, few near-luxury rivals are available with a V8 engine. Though not perfect, marred by rather ordinary interior furnishings, the LS can easily be compared with cars that cost a lot more.
pagluy
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Hmm let me think. Do auto makers sell more 4 door sedans, or 2+2 coupes (that are also convertibles)?
Do you really think Ford counted on selling more T-birds than LS'?
The LS and the Mustang were to be the halo cars for the DEW98 platform.
So yeah, buy a clue. There should be some motivational poster on myspace that will point you in the right direction.
Way better.
Now you are talking and I bet they do not need 2 (two) turbos.
IMHO turbos are on the way out. :shifty: :shifty: :shifty:
Well, their upcoming Boss/Coyote 5.0L V-8 for the 2011 Mustang outputs 4-500 hp and 4-500 (max 750) lb-ft of torque. Is that enough?
Now you are talking and I bet they do not need 2 (two) turbos.
IMHO turbos are on the way out. :shifty: :shifty: :shifty:
pagluy
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That's insane because the market says turbo's are on the way in, big time. The tech has been worked out, you don't get terrible "turbo lag" - you can get ones that produce power across the whole band now (like Ford's EcoBoost - check out the torque that thing makes aat varying rpms). Big displacement engines (v8's) will be reserved for specialty cars and sports cars in the future, with turbo'd 4's and 6's for everything else. It's gonna happen, the writing is on the wall. The increased mileage and efficiency is what is driving it.
Absolutely! Turbo chargers have really woken up diesels too, as of late.
captainalias
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Jalopnik Review: http://jalopnik.com/5296925/2010-ford-taurus-sho-first-drive
Ford claims the AWD system can send 100% power to rear wheels.
Ford claims the AWD system can send 100% power to rear wheels.
pagluy
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I'm glad the SHO exists. Gives me a nice option in 5 years or so. I'm holding out for a Lincoln using that new 5.0 engine they're working on though
CSS996
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When I look at the photos, I find myself saying...
Looks really..... Thick.
I guess that is the style now.
Looks really..... Thick.
I guess that is the style now.
The SHO twin turbo is also used in the new Lincoln. Road test claims no turbo lag but losing power in the high rpm range oao the two small turbo's.
Had some turbo equiped cars but no more and still think turbo's are APITN also hard and expensive to replace.
Had some turbo equiped cars but no more and still think turbo's are APITN also hard and expensive to replace.
Jayce 1971
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Historicly, enthusiasts replace most twin turbo setups with one "BiG" turbo, e.g., 3000gtVR4/Stealth, Mazda RX7, Toyota Supra, etc. Most of the high performace street machines replace dual setup with 1 monster that spools quicker, less lag, moves more air. If you're planning on getting one of these, I'd guess someone will develop a single kit to maximiize power.
I always liked the Ford's for being their own design, but that Taurus looks more like a BMW than anything ever made by Ford before. I guess that is how they will appeal to the mass's. I will keep looking at the Lincolns for their own designs.
As for turbos waking up diesel's lately-----diesels have had turbos for over 40 years now, if not longer.
As for turbos waking up diesel's lately-----diesels have had turbos for over 40 years now, if not longer.
I was referring to the modern turbo diesel engines used in cars - only in the last few years have they made significant progress.