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barry2952

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Legal Question.

Let's say I bought a huge electrical contracting business. I kept some of the old employees. I hire some new department heads. It was never disclosed to me that there were unsafe practices endemic to the field workers. Reports were immediately made to me by department heads making me aware that these practices are in place and that we are exposed to extreme liability. I do nothing and 9 months later 3,000 people are killed.

Would a court find me responsible?

A simple Yes or No will suffice.
 
I would imagine YES. But let's say you're the mafia and your family "owns" the judges...well you get the idea..
 
This analogy is neither profound nor applicable. Since we all know you're talking about President Bush and 9-11, what are the "unsafe practices" you are referring to? What could have seriously been done to prevent it? Would it have had a chance of being implemented pre-9/11? Or would civil liberties groups and the like have blocked any such plans?

You know my opinion, and I know yours. Unfortunately, we're dealing with hypotheticals. I'm sure you would like to punish FDR as well for his failure on 12-7-41. That analogy is much more pertinent.

SARCASTIC EDIT: I thought Michael Moore disproved the terrorist threat?
 
Kbob said:
This analogy is neither profound nor applicable. Since we all know you're talking about President Bush and 9-11, what are the "unsafe practices" you are referring to? What could have seriously been done to prevent it? Would it have had a chance of being implemented pre-9/11? Or would civil liberties groups and the like have blocked any such plans?
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Let's just say for argument's sake that NO corrective action prior to the deaths of 3000 people could have prevented it. IF the buisness owner can show that he at least TRIED something, ANYTHING to fix the unsafe practices, the courts would certainly be lienient in their judgment, if not let the owner off on all counts. However NEGLIGENCE IS INEXCUSABLE.

Kbob said:
SARCASTIC EDIT: I thought Michael Moore disproved the terrorist threat?
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You are referring to the terrorist threat from IRAQ.
 
JohnnyBz00LS said:
You are referring to the terrorist threat from IRAQ.
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Spoken like a true Michael Moore fan.

"IF the buisness owner can show that he at least TRIED something, ANYTHING to fix the unsafe practices,"

What "unsafe practices" are you talking about?
 
Kbob said:
What "unsafe practices" are you talking about?
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How about the fact that none of the government agencies assigned the task of protecting the American people had any real communication with each other? In fact, it came out that they were not cooperating on purpose. Creating an intelligence czar should have been one of Bush's first task since he was clearly warned by a number of agencies that the radical Islamics were about to try something spectacular with airplanes.

What did GWB do with this information? Nothing, he went on vacation.

"Worst President Ever"
 
Kbob said:
Spoken like a true Michael Moore fan.?
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Actually, this was "proven" independantly by our own government's investigators. Remember, no WMDs found in Iraq and the sanctions were found to be actually working so that Saddam was not, could not create WMDs since '91?

Kbob said:
"IF the buisness owner can show that he at least TRIED something, ANYTHING to fix the unsafe practices,"

What "unsafe practices" are you talking about?
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Actually, I was referencing the context of the original post. But thank you Barry for relating it to 9/11.
 
JohnnyBz00LS said:
Actually, this was "proven" independantly by our own government's investigators. Remember, no WMDs found in Iraq and the sanctions were found to be actually working so that Saddam was not, could not create WMDs since '91?
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I mentioned Michael Moore in jest. I'm not sure why you want to continue rebutting a sarcastic joke. I have no desire to get into something that was proven after the fact, not before.
 
barry2952 said:
How about the fact that none of the government agencies assigned the task of protecting the American people had any real communication with each other? In fact, it came out that they were not cooperating on purpose. Creating an intelligence czar should have been one of Bush's first task since he was clearly warned by a number of agencies that the radical Islamics were about to try something spectacular with airplanes.
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Was that a known problem before 9\11? Or was this deficiency brought to light by the 9\11 Commission after the fact? If so, then this does not apply. Try again please.
 
"SO TRUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! a genuine POS!"

"Actually, I was referencing the context of the original post. But thank you Barry for relating it to 9/11."

FIGHT TEAM FIGHT, FIGHT, FIGHT FIGHT . . . GOOOO LEFTIES!! :joke
 
Ken,

Are you having fun with the revisionists? Simply amazing. Clinton sat on his ass for 8 years and Bush is now expected to have changed the world in 8 months.:bash:

Geno, don't make me slap you down bro! :slam
 
Yes, GWB and CR knew before 9/11. Many others did too. GWB was just too stupid to listen to the very people HE hired to advise him. HE is the CIC and HE is responsible for not doing anything.

Are all the commisioners liars? Are they trying to "get" GWB? They just reported the fact that the info was there and GWB ignored it.

I'd say that it is HIS responsibility that 9/11 happened. Shifting blame to Clinton is a sorry excuse for Bush's lack of action. You Bushies are too blind to see. You are fundamentalism at it's worst.
 
no If you are talking about the gov. than there are no penilties for there achions. that is leaft up to the people. we do have the power to over throw the goverment. Is 9-11 worthey of this I don't think so, but some might. I have loved ones over there now. and like it or not they are, yet the do there job day in and day out. and I feel that thoes boys and that man that was elected to office by us does reserve a little RESPECT.
 
barry2952 said:
Yes, GWB and CR knew before 9/11. Many others did too. GWB was just too stupid to listen to the very people HE hired to advise him. HE is the CIC and HE is responsible for not doing anything.

Are all the commisioners liars? Are they trying to "get" GWB? They just reported the fact that the info was there and GWB ignored it.

I'd say that it is HIS responsibility that 9/11 happened. Shifting blame to Clinton is a sorry excuse for Bush's lack of action. You Bushies are too blind to see. You are fundamentalism at it's worst.
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You're saying that GWB and CR knew before 9/11 that all the different intelligence agencies were not communicating properly. Is this part of the 9/11 report or just your opinion?

I never said anything about the commissioners being liars. What I am debating is whether or not anything meaningful could have been done to prevent it. It's not like anyone was frantically trying to raise the flag that we were in imminent danger. I'm sure the president gets reports on possible threats all the time.

You've accused me of being blind and fundamental at its worst. That doesn't mean much to me coming from someone like you.
 
dertyclown said:
and I feel that thoes boys and that man that was elected to office by us does reserve a little RESPECT.
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No offense dertyclown (love the name btw), but now Barry's going to go off on how it's his right to criticize the president, blah blah blah, then he'll end it with "WORST PRESIDENT EVER" trying to raise the dander of novice conservatives so he can brow beat them and prove his mental superiority to himself.
 
I kind of gessed that. btw Dertyclown is one of thoe things from when your little that just stays in the back of your head. But im usealy just the kid in the redneck or that crazy SOB. or the mex. witch i don't get at all Im not even close to mexican.
 
Kbob said:
No offense dertyclown (love the name btw), but now Barry's going to go off on how it's his right to criticize the president, blah blah blah, then he'll end it with "WORST PRESIDENT EVER" trying to raise the dander of novice conservatives so he can brow beat them and prove his mental superiority to himself.
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Please answer a simple question. Aside from overreacting to 9/11 by invading Iraq what has Bush done for the American people in 4+ years?

We're building schools, police stations, fire stations and hospitals in Iraq while we're shutting them down here. Our roads are falling apart and we're building new roads for the Iraqi people. We have more hungry people here then there are in Iraq. Did you know that 46% of personal bankruptcies due to medical debt burying families. There's something he can sink his teeth into.

I repeat, "Aside from overreacting to 9/11 by invading Iraq what has Bush done for the American people in 4+ years?"
 
the army does not buld your roads that is somthing you have to take up with your state. not bush
"We have more hungry people here then there are in Iraq." now your just pulling sh it out of your A$$. if you want to use that as a fact Back you sh it up !!!!
also do you have all the info ?????? hell no do you think the goverment lets every one know every thing there doing... how messed up would that be.
just to let you in on a little known fact. just becouse you thik somthing does not mean it is true. or that anyone eals will buy your BS
 
barry2952 said:
Please answer a simple question. Aside from overreacting to 9/11 by invading Iraq what has Bush done for the American people in 4+ years?"
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Have you already given up on trying to find out if Bush is legally culpable for 9/11? We've talked about this other question you've posted as well. Just do a search. I never said Bush was the greatest. All I'm suggesting is that your venom is misplaced. You just simply do not like Bush. That's perfectly fine. But don't expect your accusations to go unchallenged, especially when the reasons for your disdain are rationally disproven and/or contextually put in a historical perspective.
 
Could you just try answering the question? What has GWB done for the American people in 4+ years?
 
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