Letterman "hides behind jokes"

[fossten]

Don Imus made a racial joke. For centuries black women have benn called "nappy headed hoes", if Letterman said the same thing about a black teenage girl, would you guys take the same stance.

Of course I would. But he would only make that sort of comment about a conservative black teenage girl.

 

[fossten]

did you see his ratings? They were tanking -

And why is Letterman apologizing, not once, but twice - or as many times as it takes him to get it right?

All right, here - I’ve been thinking about this situation with Governor Palin and her family now for about a week - it was a week ago tonight, and maybe you know about it, maybe you don’t know about it. But there was a joke that I told, and I thought I was telling it about the older daughter being at Yankee Stadium. And it was kind of a coarse joke. There’s no getting around it, but I never thought it was anybody other than the older daughter, and before the show, I checked to make sure in fact that she is of legal age, 18. Yeah. But the joke really, in and of itself, can’t be defended. The next day, people are outraged. They’re angry at me because they said, ‘How could you make a lousy joke like that about the 14-year-old girl who was at the ball game?’ And I had, honestly, no idea that the 14-year-old girl, I had no idea that anybody was at the ball game except the Governor and I was told at the time she was there with Rudy Giuliani…And I really should have made the joke about Rudy…” (audience applauds) “But I didn’t, and now people are getting angry and they’re saying, ‘Well, how can you say something like that about a 14-year-old girl, and does that make you feel good to make those horrible jokes about a kid who’s completely innocent, minding her own business,’ and, turns out, she was at the ball game. I had no idea she was there. So she’s now at the ball game and people think that I made the joke about her. And, but still, I’m wondering, ‘Well, what can I do to help people understand that I would never make a joke like this?’ I’ve never made jokes like this as long as we’ve been on the air, 30 long years, and you can’t really be doing jokes like that. And I understand, of course, why people are upset. I would be upset myself.

“And then I was watching the Jim Lehrer ‘Newshour’ - this commentator, the columnist Mark Shields, was talking about how I had made this indefensible joke about the 14-year-old girl, and I thought, ‘Oh, boy, now I’m beginning to understand what the problem is here. It’s the perception rather than the intent.’ It doesn’t make any difference what my intent was, it’s the perception. And, as they say about jokes, if you have to explain the joke, it’s not a very good joke. And I’m certainly - ” (audience applause) “- thank you. Well, my responsibility - I take full blame for that. I told a bad joke. I told a joke that was beyond flawed, and my intent is completely meaningless compared to the perception. And since it was a joke I told, I feel that I need to do the right thing here and apologize for having told that joke. It’s not your fault that it was misunderstood, it’s my fault. That it was misunderstood.” (audience applauds) “Thank you. So I would like to apologize, especially to the two daughters involved, Bristol and Willow, and also to the Governor and her family and everybody else who was outraged by the joke. I’m sorry about it and I’ll try to do better in the future. Thank you very much.” (audience applause)

 

[TheDude]

There will never be a strong third party. Such talk is a Democrat creation. You don't see the Kos Kids or the DUmmies talking about forming a Leftist Party. They understand what keeping power centralized means.

If there's enough people that vote for a third, there will. But in reality, it's not likely to happen anytime soon.

Doesn't have to be an offshoot of the Left, could be an offshoot of the Right, ie the Right who invokes religion as a political stance and the more moderate Right, the latter could appeal to me.

Doesn't have to be an offshoot of either Left or Right for that matter. There's probably plenty of people who've had it with both The Rep and Dem parties and would love a new viewpoint.

 

[hrmwrm]

And why is Letterman apologizing, not once, but twice - or as many times as it takes him to get it right?

cause with lettermans type of humour, that is a comedy routine.

 

[fossten]

If there's enough people that vote for a third, there will. But in reality, it's not likely to happen anytime soon.

Doesn't have to be an offshoot of the Left, could be an offshoot of the Right, ie the Right who invokes religion as a political stance and the more moderate Right, the latter could appeal to me.

Doesn't have to be an offshoot of either Left or Right for that matter. There's probably plenty of people who've had it with both The Rep and Dem parties and would love a new viewpoint.

Our entire system will collapse before there is a new party strong enough to make a difference.

 

[shagdrum]

If there's enough people that vote for a third, there will. But in reality, it's not likely to happen anytime soon.

Doesn't have to be an offshoot of the Left, could be an offshoot of the Right, ie the Right who invokes religion as a political stance and the more moderate Right, the latter could appeal to me.

Doesn't have to be an offshoot of either Left or Right for that matter. There's probably plenty of people who've had it with both The Rep and Dem parties and would love a new viewpoint.

A political party usually needs an ideology to coalesce around. That is why the Democrat and Republican parties (not to mention even the libertarian party) have been around for so long. Most any other party that doesn't have that tends to be, at best, a flash in the pan as they are nothing more then an ad hoc coalition of special interests that does not endure.

From a broad ideological standpoint, conservatism is practically the same as libertarianism (domestically) at the federal level (due to the federalism inherent in the Constitution). What is the problem with them at that level?

 

[MonsterMark]

PLEASE. Letterman wasn't the one...

Letterman's computers should be seized and examined for child porn. Just another liberal pedophile running around. Time to cut off his nuts so he quits chasing kids around.

 

[MonsterMark]

But instead, SHE took the trailer park route and insinuated Dave was not only advocating statuatory RAPE, but also that he could not be trusted around under-age girls. Well, if she's going to go down THAT gutter, it's only fair that the gloves can come off.

Now that I've actually started to read the thread, reading 'ol Johnny here go about his usual usual, I will file a complaint with the New York police department to have Letterman's computers seized. I think his comments disguised as a joke indicate that he is a potential pedophile. Just like any grandma at the airport that has to go thru the humiliation of being body searched to avoid the impression of profiling, the same standard should be held here. Letterman appears to have dirty thoughts and may be a dirty man. With his wealth, who knows what he may be able to buy, including little girls. He should be investigated.

I suspect we'll be hearing jokes about Obama's daughters soon enough.

 

[fossten]

I suspect we'll be hearing jokes about Obama's daughters soon enough.

RAAAAAAAAAAACIST!