Soulworkout
New LVC Member
I keep hearing info about back pressure. If you drop the resonators and OEM mufflers on a V8 LS and add flow master 40 serious mufflers will you lose performance?
Lincoln LS Mufflers
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02V8Sport
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:W to :V :wave
You may slightly lose torque, but HP will go up and you will have better response across the RPM range. The resonators dont take away much power, they quiet down the car a lot. I would keep them in. The 40 series Flowmasters will drive you nuts with resonance.
You may slightly lose torque, but HP will go up and you will have better response across the RPM range. The resonators dont take away much power, they quiet down the car a lot. I would keep them in. The 40 series Flowmasters will drive you nuts with resonance.
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rocket5979
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Soulworkout said:
Why would anyone want to put such a loud and musclecar-ish muffler on a luxo car? It just doesnt seem to fit the cars style at all! A nice tuned exhaust with some rumble is fine, but not the 40's. I have a custom exhaust with the 40's non-delta flow and I love their sound on the vehicle I have them on, but not on an LS. Subtlety goes a long way in a car like the LS.
POPPABEAR78
Active LVC Member
rocket5979 said:
I Concur with you sir :Beer
Midas78
Well-Known LVC Member
POPPABEAR78 said:
LS's are becoming a common car, how many LS's have you seen sound like a Mustang - (I haven't seen any). When I get the money, I'm slapping a custom exhaust with a loud rumbling sound and I will still have a luxury LS!!
Leather seats, fully loaded interior - and a redneck rumble - can't beat it!!
We all have our personal preferences - I don't knock people for wanting to have a quiet car and it seems my neighbors don't give a sh*t about having loud mufflers - why should I?
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rocket5979
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"LS's are becoming a common car, how many LS's have you seen sound like a Mustang - (I haven't seen any)."
There is probably good reason for that...
"When I get the money, I'm slapping a custom exhaust with a loud rumbling sound and I will still have a luxury LS!!
Leather seats, fully loaded interior - and a redneck rumble - can't beat it!!"
Thats your choice...
"We all have our personal preferences - I don't knock people for wanting to have a quiet car and it seems my neighbors don't give a sh*t about having loud mufflers - why should I?"
Everyone has a personal preference and are fully entitled to that, but some mods are just plain offcolor or dont match the vehicle. Putting a superloud muscle-car exhaust onthe LS would be the same as putting a 6" cowl hood on a Honda Civic. Not only does it not match the vehicles style but it also doesnt accomplish anything additional. What I am saying is that IMO it doesnt seem to match the personality and classy theme of these cars. Common or not, they are still luxury cars and thus to avoid ruining that natural theme, offcolor mods may want to be avoided. Bottom line is, stick to what your car's good at. Civics usually cannot uphold the musclecar-ish theme so why try. Musclecars cannot uphold the luxo car theme so why try. The same goes with luxo cars trying to be a ricer or a musclecar. Now a sleeper or something not outwardly seeming to break the mold is a different animal which I wont even attempt to outline or discuss. All I will say is sleepers are cool!
There is probably good reason for that...
"When I get the money, I'm slapping a custom exhaust with a loud rumbling sound and I will still have a luxury LS!!
Leather seats, fully loaded interior - and a redneck rumble - can't beat it!!"
Thats your choice...
"We all have our personal preferences - I don't knock people for wanting to have a quiet car and it seems my neighbors don't give a sh*t about having loud mufflers - why should I?"
Everyone has a personal preference and are fully entitled to that, but some mods are just plain offcolor or dont match the vehicle. Putting a superloud muscle-car exhaust onthe LS would be the same as putting a 6" cowl hood on a Honda Civic. Not only does it not match the vehicles style but it also doesnt accomplish anything additional. What I am saying is that IMO it doesnt seem to match the personality and classy theme of these cars. Common or not, they are still luxury cars and thus to avoid ruining that natural theme, offcolor mods may want to be avoided. Bottom line is, stick to what your car's good at. Civics usually cannot uphold the musclecar-ish theme so why try. Musclecars cannot uphold the luxo car theme so why try. The same goes with luxo cars trying to be a ricer or a musclecar. Now a sleeper or something not outwardly seeming to break the mold is a different animal which I wont even attempt to outline or discuss. All I will say is sleepers are cool!
FreeFaller
USAF LS8
rocket5979 said:
Correction: Sport Luxury cars.
You should hear the CLS 55 AMG...it sounds like a monster. But it's still a $90,000 Benz.
whatsupadrian
Dedicated LVC Member
Lincoln LS (luxury SPORT), how is a sportier sounding exhaust offcolor?
Anyways the non-delta flow 40 series muffler is the louder one, the super 40s and delta flow 40s are quieter.
Anyways the non-delta flow 40 series muffler is the louder one, the super 40s and delta flow 40s are quieter.
didjital|
DIDJI
ls = luxury sedan / lt = luxury truck?
I agree with what your point is however
I agree with what your point is however
Soulworkout
New LVC Member
Mufflers
Thank you all for your input. I am going to go with the Flow masters 40 series. It’s funny that someone in this form brought up the CLS 55 AMG. This is the car that inspired me to change the mufflers on my LS. The CL5 has a mean sound that will make you think twice before racing it. The new Bentley Coup sounds mean as well. Those 2 cars are at the top of the luxury food chain.
Cars are just extension of our personalities. That’s why I have added Flow masters to my Range Rover and 92 Stang. I like to hear the power as I drive down the road. There is nothing more pleasing than hearing the sound of an American V8 with 40 serious mufflers under the car.
Thank you all for your input. I am going to go with the Flow masters 40 series. It’s funny that someone in this form brought up the CLS 55 AMG. This is the car that inspired me to change the mufflers on my LS. The CL5 has a mean sound that will make you think twice before racing it. The new Bentley Coup sounds mean as well. Those 2 cars are at the top of the luxury food chain.
Cars are just extension of our personalities. That’s why I have added Flow masters to my Range Rover and 92 Stang. I like to hear the power as I drive down the road. There is nothing more pleasing than hearing the sound of an American V8 with 40 serious mufflers under the car.
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rocket5979
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whatsupadrian said:
The LS is a luxury sport sedan. I do grasp that, but it is not a musclecar... A sportier exhaust would be great. But the flowmaster 40 series is not just merely a sporty exhaust.
Another thing versus the delta and non-delta flow issue. They do sound almost identical, the only difference was with the internal baffle design was changed in the delta flows to reduce interior drone. I have had both the delta's and non-delta's on my 5.0 and 4.6 and they both produce the same mean sound. The Delta's may be a tad quieter, but nothing vastly noticeable.
The CL55, SL65, SL500 are different animals altogether. They are in the luxury supercar class. They have the balls to backup the sound of a mean exhaust and also have the image that matches that too. The LS is a great and very sporty car, but can you really see a loud-azz exhaust on an LS seeming normal? Or befitting? I just think that another LS with a loud exhaust and nothing much under the hood will be another example of all show and no go. If it were modded and could backup the exhaust tone then I wouldnt be saying these things but it cannot. While I find it a very respectable car, it will rarely if ever fit into the musclecar persona, so why try to imitate? Putting a really loud exhaust on the LS like the 40 series will take its class and flush it down the toilet. Thats just my opinion, but you will probably find that 75% or more of people, not just in the LS world, will agree with me. It is tantamount to a ricer putting a big fartcan exhaust on their car.
LikeNew02
Well-Known LVC Member
not the 40 series. i had those on my thunderbird sc and i hated them. they were toooo loud! a week later, i had the 40 series replaced with non growling magnaflows. the magnaflows were perfect. the 40 series have the muscle car sound that doesn't match the ls.
however, if you want to turn every head when you step on the gas... get the 40 series! oh ya, more people will try to race you when they hear those 40 series.
however, if you want to turn every head when you step on the gas... get the 40 series! oh ya, more people will try to race you when they hear those 40 series.
Midas78
Well-Known LVC Member
rocket5979 said:
ROTFLMAO - Wow you must be bored to respond like this, why wouldn't I want to match the car to my personality and not the other way around? I didn't like loud mufflers at first - I find them annoying - but damn - sometimes its just cool! Fart cans suck, but the V8 should sound good. I've checked out the sound clips ppl have and I'm envious.
Thanks for the laugh rocketman! :Beer
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rocket5979
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Midas78 said:
EXACTLY!!! Then get a car that better matches your personality! Get a real musclecar and put a loudazz xhaust on it. Putting a 40 series muffler on a lightly modded LS is RICE/REDNECK. You might as well put a ball hitch on the back and haul around a trailor made out of an old Ford truck bed while your at it. Give me a break, it seems that your the one that is providing the humor here dude. Just make sure you complete the theme correctly and get a mullet to top it all off unless, of course, you already have one? lmao...
Motts
Dedicated LVC Member
I love the sound of my cls
Soulworkout
New LVC Member
LS MUfflers
Wow, this is getting heated. For the record, I’m no redneck nor do I have a mullet. I just want my car to sound mean. It’s seems the LS would sound a lot like a Cobra which sounds like a modern day muscle car. I’m sure the design of the 3.9 32V motor will sound tamer than a modified 302 or big block. I own a super modified Mustang with a 472 crate motor which fits the Muscle car attitude. There is no law against Flow masters on LS.
If you think a car defines your class than you are shallow.
Wow, this is getting heated. For the record, I’m no redneck nor do I have a mullet. I just want my car to sound mean. It’s seems the LS would sound a lot like a Cobra which sounds like a modern day muscle car. I’m sure the design of the 3.9 32V motor will sound tamer than a modified 302 or big block. I own a super modified Mustang with a 472 crate motor which fits the Muscle car attitude. There is no law against Flow masters on LS.
If you think a car defines your class than you are shallow.
2006kmls
Active LVC Member
It will sound like crap!
I have 40 series on my 66 Nova. It has a 632" Bill Mitchell motor in it and it sounds the part, and looks the part.
But the guys here are correct, the LS does not have the balls to run through 40 series Flowmasters. First, it will resonate so bad that you'll vibrate every screw in the car loose and you'll have RICE burners blowing by you laughing their asses off at the silly sound eminating from YOUR LS!
Dude, its like farting into a 55 gallon drum. All this banter about back pressure and such is all a waste of time and BS. You won't gain crap from the setup, unless you consider 8 horsepower a BIG DEAL, or some stupid low number!
To top it all off you'll probably get a small amount of backfire and rumble as you let off the throttle. Unless you want to sound like a redneck driving a rig with jake brakes stick with a more conventional set up.
It will be a sad day to see ricers laughing at an LS.
I have 40 series on my 66 Nova. It has a 632" Bill Mitchell motor in it and it sounds the part, and looks the part.
But the guys here are correct, the LS does not have the balls to run through 40 series Flowmasters. First, it will resonate so bad that you'll vibrate every screw in the car loose and you'll have RICE burners blowing by you laughing their asses off at the silly sound eminating from YOUR LS!
Dude, its like farting into a 55 gallon drum. All this banter about back pressure and such is all a waste of time and BS. You won't gain crap from the setup, unless you consider 8 horsepower a BIG DEAL, or some stupid low number!
To top it all off you'll probably get a small amount of backfire and rumble as you let off the throttle. Unless you want to sound like a redneck driving a rig with jake brakes stick with a more conventional set up.
It will be a sad day to see ricers laughing at an LS.
Midas78
Well-Known LVC Member
rocket5979 said:
I'll tow your car on the truck bed. :N
btw you just insulted several of the LS owners who have the 40 series mufflers... and you no longer deserve a response, unless you are adding something positive to the forum.
I can't believe I got pulled into this. Thanks for the clarity Fla02LS.
2006kmls
Active LVC Member
You are missing the point.
A sports/luxury car is tuned and sounds a certain way. By the very nature of the platform it is a cross between a performance vehicle and a luxury car.
An LS has a small but nimble engine and would sound like a 97hp Civic blowing exhaust into a folgers coffee can with Flowmasters on it! Everyone laughs at the ricers that blast by with all of that noise and racket and you just know that the car is a 17 sec/qtr mile car...its no secret. Its like a chiwawa making a bunch of noise...you know there is nothing to back it up and you laugh at it.
90% of people you would pull up next to on the street with an LS thats going "...blap, blap, blap,blap" would think you needed to go visit Midas and get that exhaust leak fixed!! LOL
The LS motors, especially yours, are not pushing enough cfm through the mufflers to even get the "muscle car" sound you are describing. These are small inch motors that sound silly blasting into a 55 gallon drum. As silly as the ricer tearing up the street with a 97hp Civic....its low, its lound, the stereo is banging, it has NOS...but at the end of the day you just laugh at it....you pull out any detroit V8 and just walk away from it and its all over.
I agree with the guy that suggested that a trailer hitch should also be installed to pull your trailer!
Now, if you got an LS that has some serious HP and can use the exhaust system and not sound like a joke then maybe? But your talking about an LS (YOURS) that can't even spin the tires over....whoa, that 252HP is outa control dude...beter get some 40's on it to unlease that power!
Rather than worry about the 40's on your car you need to worry about the 40s you been drinkin!
A sports/luxury car is tuned and sounds a certain way. By the very nature of the platform it is a cross between a performance vehicle and a luxury car.
An LS has a small but nimble engine and would sound like a 97hp Civic blowing exhaust into a folgers coffee can with Flowmasters on it! Everyone laughs at the ricers that blast by with all of that noise and racket and you just know that the car is a 17 sec/qtr mile car...its no secret. Its like a chiwawa making a bunch of noise...you know there is nothing to back it up and you laugh at it.
90% of people you would pull up next to on the street with an LS thats going "...blap, blap, blap,blap" would think you needed to go visit Midas and get that exhaust leak fixed!! LOL
The LS motors, especially yours, are not pushing enough cfm through the mufflers to even get the "muscle car" sound you are describing. These are small inch motors that sound silly blasting into a 55 gallon drum. As silly as the ricer tearing up the street with a 97hp Civic....its low, its lound, the stereo is banging, it has NOS...but at the end of the day you just laugh at it....you pull out any detroit V8 and just walk away from it and its all over.
I agree with the guy that suggested that a trailer hitch should also be installed to pull your trailer!
Now, if you got an LS that has some serious HP and can use the exhaust system and not sound like a joke then maybe? But your talking about an LS (YOURS) that can't even spin the tires over....whoa, that 252HP is outa control dude...beter get some 40's on it to unlease that power!
Rather than worry about the 40's on your car you need to worry about the 40s you been drinkin!
Soulworkout
New LVC Member
LS Mufflers
And it just keeps on coming. I did not say anything about gaining HP. All I said was that I wanted a deeper sound. My Ranger rover has a 4.4 liter motor and It sound nice with 40 series mufflers. Why are people in this form trying to compare Hondas to Lincolns? The 2 just don’t go together.
It’s funny to here some of you attack my character just because I want to put 40 series mufflers on my LS. I feel like I’m talking to people who live in a trailer park. IF you don’t have something positive to add to this form or constructive criticism, please keep your comments to yourself.
And it just keeps on coming. I did not say anything about gaining HP. All I said was that I wanted a deeper sound. My Ranger rover has a 4.4 liter motor and It sound nice with 40 series mufflers. Why are people in this form trying to compare Hondas to Lincolns? The 2 just don’t go together.
It’s funny to here some of you attack my character just because I want to put 40 series mufflers on my LS. I feel like I’m talking to people who live in a trailer park. IF you don’t have something positive to add to this form or constructive criticism, please keep your comments to yourself.
didjital|
DIDJI
I guess I don't see why everyone is trying to push their opinions on the other. Opinions are like :q:q:q:q:q:q:qs, everyone has one.
If we could stop this girl slapping match and just come to the conclusion people are just voicing an opinion on what they like and leave it at that. If you want to write back and voice yours so be it, but don't give examples on why, how and what something should sound like. Again its your opinion what you like, not anyone elses.
You're damn near trying to fight this argument like some do religon, just let it go, this thread is getting irritating.
If we could stop this girl slapping match and just come to the conclusion people are just voicing an opinion on what they like and leave it at that. If you want to write back and voice yours so be it, but don't give examples on why, how and what something should sound like. Again its your opinion what you like, not anyone elses.
You're damn near trying to fight this argument like some do religon, just let it go, this thread is getting irritating.
FreeFaller
USAF LS8
:I Do what you want Soulworkout. When you've done it post a soundclip. I'd be interested to hear how it sounds.
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rocket5979
Guest
Soulworkout said:
Getting heated? hehehe, your kidding right? This isnt even close to heated. Tone of voice is something that is hard to judge over the net but I assure you those were not heated words back there. I just have a different idea of what goes well with the look of the LS. I could care less what you do with your car however, I wanted you to be aware that you are ruining the cars classy image by putting such a loudand non-befitting exhaust on it.
The difference between the Cobra 32V V8 and the LS 32V V8 is quite a bit of power and the Cobra IS a musclecar, the LS is not. Very simple yet big differences.
"I own a super modified Mustang with a 472 crate motor which fits the Muscle car attitude."
Yeah, I'm sure ya do......... I am just curious if you somehow thought that by bringing up a point about you owning some "super modified mustang" that it somehow qualified you to deem the LS worthy of a musclecar exhaust. lol. Grasping for straws there buddy.
" If you think a car defines your class than you are shallow."
Yet another thing I am curious about that I have to address. Did you ever take, or pass for that matter, reading comprehension? I would venture a guess at, no. Not once in my previous posts had I ever mentioned anything remotely close to a car defining a person's class. What I did say was that the car has its own class. Not that it is above all other cars, just that it has a totally different image (for good reason) than other cars, musclecar included. I see it is worthless to debate this with you as you seem to be taking offense to what I am saying. I was mainly just ribbing you and the other person because I didnt agree with what mods you had planned and I wanted to razz you all a little about it. hehehe. Was it as good for you as it was for me??? Dude simmer down.