lincoln ls v8 vs acura cl type s
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ohioLS said:
About 50 miles south of Cincinnati on the river. Not a gen 2, but sounds like fun anyway. At least this way we wont have to listen to the bench racing anymore eh?
How do your number compare to a gen2? How much did you pick up with the Xcal?
StinkinLinkinLS01
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Ditto. But a gen 1 LS with exhaust, intake, and the XCal will dust any stock CL-S. ;0)slvrls said:
StincolnLincoln
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heres my 2 cents i recently got my 88 Mark VII rear ended at a red light by a Acura TL .. can u say was a nice car the owner of that car was rear ended by a Honda Pilot and then pushed into me. The back of that car looked like a full size SUV hit it. I read that thread about build quality. and laughed if the back door wrinkles up and popped open immediatly when struck what does that say about Acura's not only build quality but safety wise. I have the pics on my cell been to lazy to post them but i will. And the nose of the car pushed my bumper up and wripped down my passenger rear exhaust again build quality sucks on an Acura thats why there are so many in the shops and in junk yards because they fall apart so easily. Ill post pics of what it did to the back on my lincoln soon.
Yea I agree w/ on build quality. My dad gets tons of Acura's, Bimmers and Lexus' in at his shop and he says the Acura's are nice but damn do they get crushed if hit. But again, maybe they are suppose to fold up like a can(absurb the force) and be written off after.
2002_LS_V8
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if there is any Acura CL's around iowa i would like to put my 02 LS8 stock against it... there is a track near by me or the street eather way..
StincolnLincoln said:
WOW............ build quality Ford Vs Honda, Hmmmmmmm... You cant be serious. Are you? The TL absorbed the impact of a FULL SIZE SUV and didnt transfer ALL that energy to your car. Thats impressive design, and engineering if you ask me.
Just because i own an LS doesnt automatically make it the best car in the world. There are plenty of better cars I'd like to have. I like the LS for what it is, but lets not put it on a pedestal.
I do agree with the LS being a stout car, I ran off the road and hit a Hillside. It stayed togather pretty well considering the speed i was going. That doesnt mean the build quality is better though. The force trasmitted from the impact destroyed all the interior peices of the car(Parts blew out of the dash, center console blew out etc.etc.etc...).
StincolnLincoln
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slvrls said:
The Acura was sitting behind me at the red light and yes it took 1 hell of a hit and was pushed into me all u saw was the skid marks from it being rammed into me. Like i said the nose of the Acura went under me i never said it recovered lol. The nose actually was on the ground as well as the hood and when i looked inside the acura the dash hasd fallen into the passenger seat. Plus the acura owner had a small child in the back seat that was in a seat restraint that still would have allowed her to be ejected from a car that buckeled and then popped open the back doors. also the back seats where shifted forward as to the little child in the back seat was fine but shaken up pretty badly. Now if u want to see a tank of a vehicle That Honda Pilot only had the License plate holder and plate bent no dents at all not even a buckle of the hood. i have pics on my cell of that as well and again me being lazy lol. will get to it.
Any car that gets hit from the rear and the doors automatically pop open leaves concern to me. Oh and i see that u said full size suv i think u misread what i was saying. A honda pilot is a small vehicle no bigger than my mark. i said it looked like it took a hit from a full size suv. But acura are good looking cars. But as always since i could remember i have always been a Ford, Lincoln, Mercury fella lol...
chocolat1701
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Bushum said:
yea i did know that i just did a google search and found it and i thought it will be a good subject for all, as we can see with the post's that we have here its been a success.
chocolat1701
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plus my best friend has a CL and i wanted opinions before we raced.
chocolat1701
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stincolnlincoln your right yesterday i was with my best friend they guy im one day going to race his CL -S we was going to the movies to check out MI3 and we was in his CL and we was at the light and a car that was parked behind us for some reason didnt see us and hit the CL in the the back right side corner bumber and it coused about 2000 worth in damages - the car was just pulling out the parking space i know if it was my LS it would of coused some damages but not 2000 worth as a matter of fact i have been hit a coulple of times at stop lights in the winter when cars have slid in the ice and rear ended me and my car looks fine just some minor scratches.
joshluvsla
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so much focus on the 0-60 times you know what guys i dont think anyone has mentioned that our cars real strength is its ability to take turns really really fast!!! we do of course have a formula 1 inspired suspension
chocolat1701
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joshluvsla said:so much focus on the 0-60 times you know what guys i dont think anyone has mentioned that our cars real strength is its ability to take turns really really fast!!! we do of course have a formula 1 inspired suspension
hmmm your right i always forget about the LS's superb handling but the thing is that most peaple dont race in curvy roads so until that happens 0-60 is the only way to compare speed and power in cars.
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chocolat1701 said:
Who cares about 0-60? All I care about is 1/4 mile times. That is just my opinion of course.
Uncle Vinnie
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i've been following this tread since it started, no matter how much I love my 2003 LS, our cars are not fast at all, our cars are a luxury sedan, they do handle better than most sedans which I am very impressed since the day I got it, the car just loves to eat those turns.
But when it comes to 0-60 or 1/4 mile time, they are slow, that's also due to it weight, if the car was 500LBS lighter we would see 1/4 mile times of mid 14's
that would be much better.
There are out there stock 4 bangers that can outperforme our LS' head down
of course they don't have the luxury that we have, that's why we love our cars so much.
I have a 1996 Eagle Talon AWD Turbo, I took it to the track in stock form and did 15.1s 1/4 mile, added $4700 in mods, and now I have a 12.8s 1/4 mile car.
Driving a 12s car is fast and fun, your basically glued to the seat and can't move.
I still love my LS, and I love driving it more than the Talon, so confortable, so smoth, if I have the need for speed I always know where to go.
But when it comes to 0-60 or 1/4 mile time, they are slow, that's also due to it weight, if the car was 500LBS lighter we would see 1/4 mile times of mid 14's
that would be much better.
There are out there stock 4 bangers that can outperforme our LS' head down
of course they don't have the luxury that we have, that's why we love our cars so much.
I have a 1996 Eagle Talon AWD Turbo, I took it to the track in stock form and did 15.1s 1/4 mile, added $4700 in mods, and now I have a 12.8s 1/4 mile car.
Driving a 12s car is fast and fun, your basically glued to the seat and can't move.
I still love my LS, and I love driving it more than the Talon, so confortable, so smoth, if I have the need for speed I always know where to go.
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rocket5979
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Uncle Vinnie said:i've been following this tread since it started, no matter how much I love my 2003 LS, our cars are not fast at all, our cars are a luxury sedan, they do handle better than most sedans which I am very impressed since the day I got it, the car just loves to eat those turns.
But when it comes to 0-60 or 1/4 mile time, they are slow, that's also due to it weight, if the car was 500LBS lighter we would see 1/4 mile times of mid 14's
that would be much better.
I don't know about you Vinnie but my 05 LS is turning low, low 14's in its current form. I would say that would meet your expectations posted above.
There are out there stock 4 bangers that can outperforme our LS' head down
of course they don't have the luxury that we have, that's why we love our cars so much.
I have a 1996 Eagle Talon AWD Turbo, I took it to the track in stock form and did 15.1s 1/4 mile, added $4700 in mods, and now I have a 12.8s 1/4 mile car.
I really don't mean to rag on ya here, but just as a comparison, my LS will be going 12.9's in the 1/4 here soon with less than $1,000 in mods.
Driving a 12s car is fast and fun, your basically glued to the seat and can't move.
I still love my LS, and I love driving it more than the Talon, so confortable, so smoth, if I have the need for speed I always know where to go.
Read above.
vinnie your first post says you have 04 ls. do you have 03 or 04? also, v6 or v8? only running 12.8's with 5K in your talon? what did you do? I had talon fwd that got me an 11.82 once (average was mid 12's) with far less $$$ into mods. IIRC I did turbo upgrade (16G ported), fuel injectors, pump, intercooler upgrade (the scirocco trick), crushed blowoff, exhaust, ported and polished heads and a couple other things. Can't remember as it's been several years but I think I had less than $3K in it.
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rocket5979
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beaups said:
Xcal2 $200.....I got hookups...
CAI...made by me but parts cost about $40
100 shot wet nitrous self made kit w/ purge.....$310
NX progressive nitrous controller...$210
Me doing all my own wrenching......well thats saves A LOT of money there!
With the right track conditions and as long as I don't botch the launch the car should be good for just hitting 12.9's.