LMS chip vs superchip
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MediumD
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I don't know about LMS but SCT in and of itself does not suck and to say otherwise is indeed ignorant.
JC1994, maybe you should actually explain why LMS is the best instead of just saying that it is and sounding like a fool.
I wonder if LMS has experiance with high altitude tunes...
JC1994, maybe you should actually explain why LMS is the best instead of just saying that it is and sounding like a fool.
I wonder if LMS has experiance with high altitude tunes...
formerknown
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Frogman said:
+1.
JC1994
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I might sound like a fool, but I am the one with a 12 sec. Mark homeboy. any time you want to line 'em up pal.MediumD said:
MediumD
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Well you can't just go say "this one's better no matter what you say," it sounds like a kid saying "I cant hear you" and making noise while plugging his ears. I'd run you in my ETC spray vs spray, I'd lose by a length or two but it'd be fun. (That reminds me time to update my sig since the Eldo isn't stock anymore.)
ONEBADMK8
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95LSC32V said:
Yes of course.
ONEBADMK8
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MediumD said:
You think we just fell off the turnip truck? We have alterate tunes available for most applications and geographical locations.
poneyhexed
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A simple question has caused allot of controversy. Interesting...Every one is very bias toward what they have.
The SCT sounds good but, I had talked to guy that one done. He is making allot less then the LMS chip. I am not plugging LMS but, isn’t that the point of the forum to ask around to see what people are doing and using?? Not to sound like Tom Cruise But, Doing the research and putting miles on cars makes big difference.
Besides that I do not like paying 5-6 bills to be at the mercy of a tuner that not to familiar with the car and expects people to live with the crap they dish out. There is a tuner up the street from me that does that. People keep going back I just don’t get it.
Has anyone run both chips??
The super chip can be updated for something like 75 bucks but where is the guarantee that you are getting something better...
The SCT sounds good but, I had talked to guy that one done. He is making allot less then the LMS chip. I am not plugging LMS but, isn’t that the point of the forum to ask around to see what people are doing and using?? Not to sound like Tom Cruise But, Doing the research and putting miles on cars makes big difference.
Besides that I do not like paying 5-6 bills to be at the mercy of a tuner that not to familiar with the car and expects people to live with the crap they dish out. There is a tuner up the street from me that does that. People keep going back I just don’t get it.
Has anyone run both chips??
The super chip can be updated for something like 75 bucks but where is the guarantee that you are getting something better...
m_maker
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It's no secret that this is an LMS oriented message board.
What's really interesting is that the rest of the worldm no kidding the rest of it uses SCT.
I don't see how without extensive dynotuning you can design a program that will work with custom setups that people are running.
The deal with SCT is that they have multiple dealers most likely in your area. SCT tune is not really an SCT tune, it's more like what the dealer is capable of doing with their software. My tuner had no issues getting all three of my supercharged setup running tip top. I am willing to bet that off the shelf LMS chip would not work as well. Sure, in simple setups, where not many typical variables are changed, of the shelf programming works ok.
My advice is find a tuner in your area that the modular crowd uses and are happy with. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to tune with the new software. Marks are not something that unique in that department.
What's really interesting is that the rest of the worldm no kidding the rest of it uses SCT.
I don't see how without extensive dynotuning you can design a program that will work with custom setups that people are running.
The deal with SCT is that they have multiple dealers most likely in your area. SCT tune is not really an SCT tune, it's more like what the dealer is capable of doing with their software. My tuner had no issues getting all three of my supercharged setup running tip top. I am willing to bet that off the shelf LMS chip would not work as well. Sure, in simple setups, where not many typical variables are changed, of the shelf programming works ok.
My advice is find a tuner in your area that the modular crowd uses and are happy with. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to tune with the new software. Marks are not something that unique in that department.
poneyhexed
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That is the problem isn`t it??
it does not take a rocket scientist to tune. There is guy at efi university starting a certifacation so you know the guy tuning car is going to a decent job.LOL
In a few post back there is a guy that gotten a sct chip and really was not to happy. I am not going to max the car out. I have another car for that. I just wanted a little bit more . cutom tune is not completly benficial for what I am looking for. I had talked to guy that gotten a custom tune and did not net the same horse power or gass milage as the LMS chip. He was basically stock as well.
.I am not bias towards LMS. I have a superchip in another car. I was actually
looking to get a super chip for the car. More familiarity with them.
I think that is the major resaon why most people are running them. I was even looking at diablo sport.
That is why I had originally posted the question. I want it all,better gass
milage and a few more horse never hurt anyone!!!! =-))
it does not take a rocket scientist to tune. There is guy at efi university starting a certifacation so you know the guy tuning car is going to a decent job.LOL
In a few post back there is a guy that gotten a sct chip and really was not to happy. I am not going to max the car out. I have another car for that. I just wanted a little bit more . cutom tune is not completly benficial for what I am looking for. I had talked to guy that gotten a custom tune and did not net the same horse power or gass milage as the LMS chip. He was basically stock as well.
.I am not bias towards LMS. I have a superchip in another car. I was actually
looking to get a super chip for the car. More familiarity with them.
I think that is the major resaon why most people are running them. I was even looking at diablo sport.
That is why I had originally posted the question. I want it all,better gass
milage and a few more horse never hurt anyone!!!! =-))
driller
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m_maker said:
We just had this argument a while back.
If you think some run-of-the-mill SCT tuner that deals with Mustangs on a daily basis can pump out a chip to get the most from your Mark VIII... well, go ahead and spend your money.
JC1994
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oh I think it would be more than a length or two... I'll pop in the 150HP jets and send that Eldo back to the boneyard. I have never lost to ANY caddy northstar, NoS or not and I usually win by 10 or 15 car lenghts.MediumD said:
MediumD
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All the Eldo has is a 175 shot and exhaust (crossover & downstream,) plus a set of ET streets I can throw on. If the mods in your sig are all you have it would be that close, since it already has 3.71s, exhaust, & spray the only thing I wouldn't have compared to you would be headers (although the factory manifolds on Northstars aren't too bad to begin with.) In fact now that I think about it you might outlaunch me if you're on DRs or ET streets but I'm pretty sure I'd reel you in by the end of the 1/4.
If you want to lose to a Northstar go find Mark99STS (TB/exhaust/stall/LSD/headwork/62mm turbo.) Or an XLR-V.
But enough bench racing for now.
If you want to lose to a Northstar go find Mark99STS (TB/exhaust/stall/LSD/headwork/62mm turbo.) Or an XLR-V.
But enough bench racing for now.
JC1994
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your the one who started with the bench racing. I say put your money where your mouth is and prove it. I have never heard of 175 shot on anything stock and with that much juice I'd be willing to bet there would be a loud bang as your northstar dies a nasty death as that is too much for a stock motor to handle. and my sig only describes the mods that I want people to know about, I never show all of my cards and I sand bag so I only win by what I need to and save the rest for the next guy. end of discussion. peace out man...
end of discussion. peace out man...
MediumD
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Keep in mind I'm over a mile high, I can get away with that much nitrous (well I have so far with the 175 shot although I usually keep 125 jets in it.) You're right I wouldn't run that much at sea level but up here I'm already losing over 50hp just from the lack of air. If you're ever in ABQ shoot me a PM Id love to have a friendly race but I don't race my daily for money, that'll be what my 75 is for. PS, if you're on stock pistons and rods as I am you can't really say anything about my engine dying - after all you're making more power aren't you?
JC1994
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well I have 15 years of experience running and tuning NoS powered cars, so you could say I know what I'm doing. and 150 shot is pushing the limit on my car, that's why I normaly run with a 100hp shot and only use the 150 when needed. I used to live in Albuquerque and Espanola too. beautiful country down there. and I know what effect high altitude has on engines so I understand you on that. that's why I like it here we are only about 1000 feet above sea level. I have had friends come from denver and notice a 50- 75 HP gain just from the drop in altitude.