LSE vs Acura TL
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According to the numbers, the Acura TL is the winner. The 2003 LS is listed as having a 1/4 mi. time of 15.27, the Acura TL 15.16...a manual TL 14.98. But the driver would have alot to do with it. Keep in mind too that is a V6 beating a V8. If its a '00-02 LS then the TL easily.
02LSE96LSC91SE84TC
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A 03up runs faster than that and will take it. And if my 2 mods on my 02 don't supposedly do anything, than even a 02 will run neck in neck.
Again, those are just numbers. I have seen all kinds of times including Motor Trend which has the 2003 LS at 15.02 1/4 mile. The best 00-02 time i have seen is 15.22. But if the LS number is off, then whats to say the TL number isnt also...see what i'm saying. It would be close but i think stock for stock the manual TL is the winner. I'm just keeping it real, if not then any post in this forum would result in the LS being the winner. Thats no fun.
JES_LS
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I hate to say it, but the TL with a skilled driver would be the winner.
But he would have to be a skilled driver, which most Americans are not.
But he would have to be a skilled driver, which most Americans are not.
black_lincoln
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check you tube for the video oh my 00 v8 runnin an 04tl
pretty much equal. trust me . my buddy has an 04 auto and i have beat him before but its seriously its pretty much dead even. who even moves first will win. but the ls gets better numbers in the 1/8 mile. my best 60' was 2.2 his was 2.3 my best time was 9.7 and his was 10.1 and my mph was 74 and his was 71-72. but these cars run like almost identical cars its soooo close. it ended up being 2-2 that day. he was killin me on the light. :-s we are heading back out to the track to settle it so i`ll post vids. and also i had to run with my tracting control on so i think next time with my new tires i should be able to get a better launch. we will see.
but on the other hand .. if it was a manual .. i would get murdered.
for the video just type in lincoln ls on you tube.
pretty much equal. trust me . my buddy has an 04 auto and i have beat him before but its seriously its pretty much dead even. who even moves first will win. but the ls gets better numbers in the 1/8 mile. my best 60' was 2.2 his was 2.3 my best time was 9.7 and his was 10.1 and my mph was 74 and his was 71-72. but these cars run like almost identical cars its soooo close. it ended up being 2-2 that day. he was killin me on the light. :-s we are heading back out to the track to settle it so i`ll post vids. and also i had to run with my tracting control on so i think next time with my new tires i should be able to get a better launch. we will see.
but on the other hand .. if it was a manual .. i would get murdered.
for the video just type in lincoln ls on you tube.
2001LS8Sport
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Well, since I have both an 01 LS8 Sport and an 06 TL auto, I can add something to this. I have never squared the cars off against each other, but driving them both tells me they are a very even race. I think the TL is a bit quicker on the bottom, they feel even in the mid...and I swear the LS will leave it in high gear. In a 1/4 mile race, I'd bet on the TL. On a high speed run, I'd bet on the LS. But be careful when you pull up against a TL....there are quite a few running around with a centrifugal blower on them. They are into the 13's easily. Oh yea....if it's a manual TL, you're beat. And he doesn't have to be the greatest driver to beat you.
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arno said:
You're buddy is smoking dope. I wouldn't call either the TL or the LS quick.
My son has some girl at work who has a new hemi Charger or similar. She keeps ragging on my son about how there isn't anything out there that will touch it. Not even close. So one day he comes by and grabs my Cobra to take to work. Gave her a ride in it. She has never opened her mouth since. He said when he hit the on ramp, he nailed it in 2nd gear and the car started fish tailing and hopping. Let off, lobbed it into 3rd, nailed it again. Tires broke loose again, feathered the throttle and eased back into it. When he whacked it into 4th gear, it was pulling so hard she was squeezing the arm rests off the car. Scared the living crap out of her. And believe me...I'm no where near the quickest Cobra around...not even close. Mine's only an 11 second car.
TheRebel
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2001LS8Sport said:
Did your son get a date out of it?
bajanbuoy
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Stock,.... Auto to Auto,.... who ever reacts first (even with SST).
If the TL is Manual,... the TL, unless the Driver bogs the start.
The new Accord Coupe - V6, gave me a run for my money the other night, while the Benz E-500 walked away from both of us. Not only until I passed 95-100 did I start pulling away.
If the TL is Manual,... the TL, unless the Driver bogs the start.
The new Accord Coupe - V6, gave me a run for my money the other night, while the Benz E-500 walked away from both of us. Not only until I passed 95-100 did I start pulling away.
Don't get me wrong.......but why do the majority of people think the LS is fast? Considering what the car is, it is woefully underpowered. That isn't to say the LS isn't quick, but to go out there and talk about how you beat a Scion, or a Pontiac Grand Prix GTP, or any other car for that matter is a bit overboard.
The LS will get beat by nearly every car in its segment. The LS will also get beat by many other cars not in its segment. Where the LS does perform is on a curvy road.......not a straight-line run.
The LS will get beat by nearly every car in its segment. The LS will also get beat by many other cars not in its segment. Where the LS does perform is on a curvy road.......not a straight-line run.
TheRebel
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DLS8K said:
AMEN to that, but even on curvy roads there are cars that can take the LS, but I don't know how many of those have AC seats
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The Acura TL isn't exactly in the LS class. Its smaller and lighter. The LS stacks up pretty decent speed wise with cars in its class actually. As new cars come out the bar is being raised quickly. The TL in 2000 was quite a bit slower than the newer ones.DLS8K said:
I'm glad someone agreed with me on here. I loved the LS because of the car's dynamics........and if like most people on here that picked their car up used, than they got a pretty good deal on that. But, what I don't like is when people come on here saying they raced ricers or cars that are faster than the LS and beat them......somehow indicating that their car outperformed the other car when in reality, it was probably the automatic transmission outperforming the manual transmission due to driver error. Granted, a win is a win.......but it is the principle behind it.TheRebel said:
So, by this logic, you would say that if you raced an automatic v-6 against a manual v-6 and the automatic won, than the other car was obviously slower.........or at least that is what I am sensing most on this forum who post things such as this.
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No, I think most people are just pointing out the fact that when a car is only a few tenths quicker, driver error plays a important part in a race. So if a car is capable of a 14.5 1/4 but the driver bogs it or looses traction even a little, than a 15.0 1/4 car can take a lead, at least for a while. Many street races or grudge matches don't have trees and timing equipment to show the truely faster car.DLS8K said:
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Scions are fast? guess I"m stupid. GTPs? which ones are much faster than the LS if at all?DLS8K said:
You could have named some fast cars.
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I'm confused. You call the LS slow by naming cars that aren't any faster or only a few tenths faster.
I'm not claiming the LS to be a frickin speed machine, but comparing it to something that is no faster, than calling it slow doesn't make sense.
I'm not claiming the LS to be a frickin speed machine, but comparing it to something that is no faster, than calling it slow doesn't make sense.
I dont know about the #'s but this sat.. I raced my boy’s brand new TL stick and beat him both runs. He is a good driver as far as I know and he's been driving manual all his life. My 02 LSE burned his 06 TL. But after all I love his car. The interior is awesome.
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Ohh, well to the people with the slower car, its fast. A fast car is easily compared to a having alot of money. To the people with less, I have alot. To the people with more, I have little. I guess it comes down to who your comparing yourself to.DLS8K said:
Like Chevy Chase said when asked "How do you compare yourself to other golfers" looking down on Ted Knight "by height".
Get in where you fit in.
I have no problems with not owning a fast car.......it is quick enough for what I use my car for. I have driven some fast cars.......an 02 Porche 911 Turbo, a 2005 Dodge Viper, a Mercedes-Benz AMG S65, a brand new Audi RS-4. Being a car salesman has its perks when the boss is out of town.02LSE96LSC91SE84TC said:
Trust me though......I agree with your comments in this post though. It's all relative to the person as to how they feel about their car. You want to know what my 1st car was? It was a 1987 Mustang LX hatchback with a 2.3 liter in it. That car was slow.......... and I knew it.
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I'm not going to go into "its my car I'll do what I want" but seriously, no ones hanging 3' wings on there car and doing race strips. The LS is actually pretty fun to race, it sticks pretty damg good and is faster than what most people think. I raced a early SHO last time out, it was the closest race I had at the track, it was alot of fun. I don't knock the people with 3 TVs in there car, that don't make sense to me.DLS8K said:
