Lucas oil treatment.

JC1994 said:
I'll bet money that you can get 500,000 miles running lucas with good oil as opposed to 300,000 on good oil alone. also you need to remember if your motor is stock with no power adders all you need is good plain oil. my car is putting out over 400hp with the NoS, so I feel the need for extra protection.
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My Charger has over 800 rwhp, and doesn't need this "extra protection". A friend of mine has been running an Incon Turbo kit on his car since the late 90s, and has laid down over 700 to the wheels, and driven over 89,000 miles since the install with no need for any extra protection.

And when I said we have cars going on well over 300k miles, I meant they are running well. They all have perfect compression. They probably will go for 500k miles.

I don't think this extra protection does not even exist. I have yet to see anything that shows that Lucas does anything for an engine at all.

The funny thing is, there are cars being built today, and cars that have been built in the past with mega horsepower levels, that never suffered any ill effects by running regular oil without any additives.

The most suspicious thing about Lucas oil to me is how supposedly this company Lucas has discovered secrets to lubrication that have somehow escaped all of the major oil companies that are about 300 times larger and do about a thousand times more chemical research and development.

Like I said before, I have NEVER EVER heard of an engine failing for any oil related reason other than BAD oil, or inadequate physical design. An engine running good oil will NOT fail due to the oil makeup. I know road racers, drag racers, powerboat racers, off roaders, and nobody I can even contact at all can tell me that they have ever heard of an engine failing because its oil just "gave up" or whatever supposedly happens when you don't run Lucas. :rolleyes:
 
vr4 said:
has anyone here with 120+k and good oil changes ever pull some rod caps and see what the bearings look like?
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Actually yes. I saw the Charger's engine when we pulled it. It had received regular oil changed since it was purchased new, and after over 200k ont he road, the bearings looked good enough to keep running. Obviously it didn't look like new, but there was no obvious issue with them. ENgine was removed to be built up for power. No other reason.

We also had the opportunity to see the 262k engine in my old BMW. Bearings were fine. No excess material, wiping, signs of abuse, or anything. Considering the way I drove that car, and the fact that it was turbocharged for its last 30k miles, this was awesome.
 
I still don't see why you would need it if you use good oil and do regular oil changes.
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DING-DING-DING!! We have a winner! Tell em' what he's won!
 
Dominus said:
Actually yes. I saw the Charger's engine when we pulled it. It had received regular oil changed since it was purchased new, and after over 200k ont he road, the bearings looked good enough to keep running. Obviously it didn't look like new, but there was no obvious issue with them. ENgine was removed to be built up for power. No other reason.

We also had the opportunity to see the 262k engine in my old BMW. Bearings were fine. No excess material, wiping, signs of abuse, or anything. Considering the way I drove that car, and the fact that it was turbocharged for its last 30k miles, this was awesome.
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sounds about right.


ill stick with my NO lucas and 3k mile oil changes.
 
Dominus said:
My Charger has over 800 rwhp, and doesn't need this "extra protection". A friend of mine has been running an Incon Turbo kit on his car since the late 90s, and has laid down over 700 to the wheels, and driven over 89,000 miles since the install with no need for any extra protection.

And when I said we have cars going on well over 300k miles, I meant they are running well. They all have perfect compression. They probably will go for 500k miles.

I don't think this extra protection does not even exist. I have yet to see anything that shows that Lucas does anything for an engine at all.

The funny thing is, there are cars being built today, and cars that have been built in the past with mega horsepower levels, that never suffered any ill effects by running regular oil without any additives.

The most suspicious thing about Lucas oil to me is how supposedly this company Lucas has discovered secrets to lubrication that have somehow escaped all of the major oil companies that are about 300 times larger and do about a thousand times more chemical research and development.

Like I said before, I have NEVER EVER heard of an engine failing for any oil related reason other than BAD oil, or inadequate physical design. An engine running good oil will NOT fail due to the oil makeup. I know road racers, drag racers, powerboat racers, off roaders, and nobody I can even contact at all can tell me that they have ever heard of an engine failing because its oil just "gave up" or whatever supposedly happens when you don't run Lucas. :rolleyes:
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never said I had heard of any failures due to the oil just giving up, and if lucas products don't work how would you explain the tranny additive stopping converter shudder? I am glad you have used plain oil with no problems and more power to you in that regard, but no matter what anyone says, I will continue to use their products with the utmost confidence. :)
 
My 2 cents.
I have used Amsoil for over 100,000 miles now. I changed to their 2000 0w-30w when it came out. The 4 bearing scratch test is what convinced me. I used K&N filters for years. K&N stated that they filtered down to 10 microns, but they do not state what the max partical size is! I have changed to Amsoil filters also. Their new filter is a machine woven micro fiber filtering media and it has a great flow rate. Max partical size is 14 microns. I e-mailed them an asked what the smallest size partical filtered is. They told me much much smaller than 15 microns. (this is a brand new type of filter) I had also asked them the same question about their original filter and was told it filtered down to 7 or 8 microns.
The reason I am giving my 2 cents is that many threads talk about engine oil but little is said about filters. You can have the best oil in the world but if the filter is junk then it is worthless.
I also use Amsoil trans fluid and gear lube.
Geno, do you use and recommend Amsoil trans fluid in your transmissons also?
Yes I don't have a life and I spend way to much time reseaching this kinda stuff.
Just some food for thought.
Raoul
 
I use Amsoil across the board. I am going to switch to Amsoil's filter on my next oil change and compare theirs to the Pure One at that time. Their trans fluid is amazing.
 
JC1994 said:
never said I had heard of any failures due to the oil just giving up, and if lucas products don't work how would you explain the tranny additive stopping converter shudder? I am glad you have used plain oil with no problems and more power to you in that regard, but no matter what anyone says, I will continue to use their products with the utmost confidence. :)
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good that the trans additive does this.


we at the dealer have been using mercV to do the same for years.
 
vr4 said:
good that the trans additive does this.


we at the dealer have been using mercV to do the same for years.
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mine still shuddered with merconV so I switched to Mobil one synthetic ATF which helped eliminate most but not all of the shudder, then I added the lucas and end of shudder. you know, I'm not trying to convince anyone to use lucas, so don't try to imply that I don't know what I'm talking about with smart ass remarks. Thank you, and end of discussion.
 
Full syn is definitely a great advantage. The abilities of it to hold together under high temps is undeniable. Amsoil is one of the best companies out there as well.
 
JC1994 said:
Is mobil 1 synthetic ATF full synthetic? how much is the Amsoil ATF?
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We have the Synthetic Universal Transmission fluid for $8.25 per qt. or the better deal of buying a 2.5 Gallon jug for $80.00.

We also have the Synthetic Supershift Racing Synthetic Transmission fluid for EXTREME use at $9.00 per qt.
 
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