MKS non-camo'd pics

I just noticed they are also on the main page. Mods delete if necessary.
 
The front end of that thing looks like the front end of the old trains with the cattle scoops on them. Hehe.
 
Disappointing.

The grill is the only distinctive thing on it...

As soon as Ford eliminates Mercury, at this rate, they might as well offer up Lincoln too.
 
NYC LSC said:
Looks like a friggin' Toyota. No thanks.
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I think they transferred the prototype MKR designs very nicely.

If it looks like a Toyota, then super. Considering the fact that Americans love buying Toyota, this can only bode well for Lincoln.
 
captainalias said:
I think they transferred the prototype MKR designs very nicely.

If it looks like a Toyota, then super. Considering the fact that Americans love buying Toyota, this can only bode well for Lincoln.
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I agree that it's good if it appeals to a Toyota/Lexus buyer. I think this is a huge step forward for Lincoln. Only time will tell though.
 
NaplesBill said:
Exactly what does that mean? Do you mean it looks like something the majority of Americans will buy?
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Considering how the rest of our fellow Americans are snapping up imports, and the said imports have good reliability, I'd say that's a compliment.
 
i don't like the contrast from the top grill and the lower. and the back kinda looks like a cts somehow. other than that it doesn't look all that bad. manufacturers follow what's selling, so this is a good direction for them if the consumers are making the demand higher for this type of body and look rather than what we (LS owners) are looking for. good for them
 
And this folks is why after owning an Escort GT, a Mustang, 2 Windstars, 3 Taurus SHO's and 2 Lincoln LS's I got a BMW. and My wife now has a Nissan Murano and I also have a Wrangler. First time in my life I did not have at least 1 Ford in the family.

All the MAJOR luxury brands have Longitudinal RWD or AWD (Audi) platforms. The only "near" luxury car this MKS has in common with is Acura. And I would not buy one of them either. Transverse FWD stinks. Bad turning radius, terrible weight distribution, hard to maintain (try taking out the rear plugs). I never new this until I went from the SHO to the LS. That is when I vowed to never drive a FWD car again.

THis should be in the MKS Vehicle Forum...
 
Kelleyo said:
THis should be in the MKS Vehicle Forum...
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There is no MKS forum, and it's an LS replacement.

It's also coming in AWD flavors as well. Acura sells very well, seems most people don't care about FWD/AWD being less performing than RWD. The modern AWD systems are quite capable.

I'd rather Lincoln be able to sell 80-100,000 units a year like the Acura TL, rather than appeal to a niche brand of diehards who want RWD. Get an upcoming Pontiac G8 if you want American with RWD V-8 power.
 
I can't believe you guys. You're making knee-jerk snap judgments based on three lousey camera-phone pix! Well I'm going to reserve judgment until I see better photos or the car in person, as well as an equipment list and a test drive.
 
captainalias said:
There is no MKS forum, and it's an LS replacement.

It's also coming in AWD flavors as well. Acura sells very well, seems most people don't care about FWD/AWD being less performing than RWD. The modern AWD systems are quite capable.

I'd rather Lincoln be able to sell 80-100,000 units a year like the Acura TL, rather than appeal to a niche brand of diehards who want RWD. Get an upcoming Pontiac G8 if you want American with RWD V-8 power.
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ToddG said:
I can't believe you guys. You're making knee-jerk snap judgments based on three lousey camera-phone pix! Well I'm going to reserve judgment until I see better photos or the car in person, as well as an equipment list and a test drive.
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Well said guys, I am in total agreement with both of you.
 
The LS only sold well its first couple of years, showing that the number of people willing to get an American car just for RWD and a V-8 weren't that large. Cadillac STS sales aren't that huge either.

The biggest sellers are now direct injection V-6 AWD cars, like the new CTS, Infinitis, or Acuras. And the MKS isn't the Lincoln flagship, it's an LS replacement, which wasn't quite the Continental replacement either.

I'm pleased to see that they kept the double-oh rims from the preproduction vehicle. Those looked swell.
 
captainalias said:
The LS only sold well its first couple of years, showing that the number of people willing to get an American car just for RWD and a V-8 weren't that large.
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Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the V8 models outsold the V6 models in every year there was a choice of engines.

The LS sold well in its first couple of years based to a large extent on good advertising and media publicity. I do not believe you can conclude from weakening sales of the LS over time that people do not want RWD and a V8 engine. There were many factors leading to the demise of the LS, noteably lack of advertising after 2001, lack of needed upgrades in the later models, and pathetic dealer support from the start.
 
ToddG said:
Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the V8 models outsold the V6 models in every year there was a choice of engines.

The LS sold well in its first couple of years based to a large extent on good advertising and media publicity. I do not believe you can conclude from weakening sales of the LS over time that people do not want RWD and a V8 engine. There were many factors leading to the demise of the LS, noteably lack of advertising after 2001, lack of needed upgrades in the later models, and pathetic dealer support from the start.
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True, the LS was poorly marketed and supported, but the market for a RWD vehicle with a V-8 is frankly, imo, a niche market. Most automakers, with the exception of those who sell large flagship models (and I don't think the MKS is intended to be that flagship), do very fine with V6 only models.
 
captainalias said:
There is no MKS forum, and it's an LS replacement.

It's also coming in AWD flavors as well. Acura sells very well, seems most people don't care about FWD/AWD being less performing than RWD. The modern AWD systems are quite capable.

I'd rather Lincoln be able to sell 80-100,000 units a year like the Acura TL, rather than appeal to a niche brand of diehards who want RWD. Get an upcoming Pontiac G8 if you want American with RWD V-8 power.
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You and I can agree to disagree. I would never buy an Acura nor this MKS.

If it was truly an LS replacement it would be called the LS and be based on a RWD platform. It is a replacement only that it fill the void left by the LS. It needs it's own forum since it will have completely unrelated issues (modifications, problems, nuances, etc) to the LS so it does not make sense that future MKS owners would want to mix with the LS owners (kind of like the MKVIII is it's own beast).
 
captainalias said:
True, the LS was poorly marketed and supported, but the market for a RWD vehicle with a V-8 is frankly, imo, a niche market. Most automakers, with the exception of those who sell large flagship models (and I don't think the MKS is intended to be that flagship), do very fine with V6 only models.
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Well I don't think Mustangs, Corvettes, BMW's, Mercedes, Infiniti's, Lexus, Cadillac's, almost all pickup trucks ever made and most SUV's are a niche market... These companies sell a ton of RWD cars with V6 or V8 options.
 
Kelleyo said:
Well I don't think Mustangs, Corvettes, BMW's, Mercedes, Infiniti's, Lexus, Cadillac's, almost all pickup trucks ever made and most SUV's are a niche market... These companies sell a ton of RWD cars with V6 or V8 options.
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But only the top tier models have V8s, and I doubt the MKS will be competing against the vehicles in that price range. E.g., only the M45 has a V8, but the G35/37s have V6s. The LS itself was always pitched against the G35, and I think the MKS will follow suit.

The BMW 3 series with its twin turbo sixes is selling very well, granted it's on a RWD platform, but it goes to show that a V6 doesn't necessarily sound the death of a car. Infiniti's new 3.7L V6 and Cadillac's new direct injection V6 have been getting rave reviews as well.

I wouldn't downplay a Lincoln with AWD and twin turbo V6s so soon.
 
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