Now we know what f*****s does in her spare time
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Once again, I don't think that the tea party is racist, or homophobic either... Do I think individuals in the party are - of course there are individuals who fall into those categories. Just like there are individuals in the Democrat Party, Republican Party, Libertarian Party, Communist Party, Green Party, etc. who are racist, homophobic, or morons (or perhaps all 3
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What the tea party should watch out for, and what Levin certainly knows to be true, is to be careful not to get labeled 'fringe'... However, there are certainly far more 'anti liberal' posts on his site than 'anti tea party' posts - it seems like the tea party is trying to overwhelm the site with propaganda... So obviously the tea party members understand the basics, it has yet to be seen if they understand the nuances.
From an interesting Gallup poll
If the tea party keeps 'reloading' they may harm their public facade with those 23% who have no opinion... yet...
They can appeal to every conservative in America - and it really won't make any difference - they need to appeal to moderates.
).What the tea party should watch out for, and what Levin certainly knows to be true, is to be careful not to get labeled 'fringe'... However, there are certainly far more 'anti liberal' posts on his site than 'anti tea party' posts - it seems like the tea party is trying to overwhelm the site with propaganda... So obviously the tea party members understand the basics, it has yet to be seen if they understand the nuances.
From an interesting Gallup poll
More generally, a separate question included in the March 26-28 poll showed that 37% of Americans view the Tea Party movement favorably and 40% unfavorably, with the remainder expressing no opinion. Predictably, Republicans and conservatives are most likely to have favorable opinions.
If the tea party keeps 'reloading' they may harm their public facade with those 23% who have no opinion... yet...
They can appeal to every conservative in America - and it really won't make any difference - they need to appeal to moderates.
Don't you mean not to let dishonest progressives succeed in marginalizing them?
The tea partiers are under litte risk of being marginalized do to their own actions; otherwise they would already be marginalized. The problem is that dishonest progressives are actively trying to marginalize them on any and every front through any "non-violent mean".
Just look at the attempt to change the focus of this thread...
Marginalizing is the name of the game Shag - you might want to paint a happy little wholesome world of politics, but it is anything but that.
Down and dirty... both sides play it, and since the left feels threatened by the tea party movement, they are going to play dirty.
Just like the Republicans are willing to dance to the tea party's tune. They can't afford to alienate them, even if they don't march hand in hand to the tea party's ideas. Most Republicans tolerate the tea party - because they have to, not because they want to.
So, on both sides you have dirty politics - destroy - or pretend to bend...
And since Foss made this little thread all about me (or perhaps f*****s is about someone else - who knows how Foss's mind works) - then I can make it all about whatever the heck I want to... silly boy. And you might want to check your 'nowhamshire' site - it is only hearsay.
And, this type of stuff always backfires - now the tea party can just claim that any stupidity that pops up are Levin's 'infiltrators'.
Just leave the tea party alone - they can fail on their own merit.
Down and dirty... both sides play it, and since the left feels threatened by the tea party movement, they are going to play dirty.
Just like the Republicans are willing to dance to the tea party's tune. They can't afford to alienate them, even if they don't march hand in hand to the tea party's ideas. Most Republicans tolerate the tea party - because they have to, not because they want to.
So, on both sides you have dirty politics - destroy - or pretend to bend...
And since Foss made this little thread all about me (or perhaps f*****s is about someone else - who knows how Foss's mind works) - then I can make it all about whatever the heck I want to... silly boy. And you might want to check your 'nowhamshire' site - it is only hearsay.
And, this type of stuff always backfires - now the tea party can just claim that any stupidity that pops up are Levin's 'infiltrators'.
Just leave the tea party alone - they can fail on their own merit.
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You've certainly gone out of your way to imply it. Liar.
Foss - have you ever heard of the expression 'Boots on the ground'?
Sarah only drew 3,000-5,000 in Boston.
The rally in DC yesterday- 6,000 - 10,000 people (compare to an immigration rally held last month at 200,000 in DC).
Did the tea party peak too early? Are they already yesterday's (and Fox) news?
It almost appears to be a symbiotic relationship between right wing media and the tea party. 'Events' flare up mirroring the reports on right wing media. They feed each other, in a very disturbing way. The tea party is grassroots - but grassroots causes can certainly be directed and shaped by the media. The tea party is good for right wing media, so right wing media fuels the fire, as long as it draws ratings. If the tea party no longer is a right wing media 'darling' what will happen to it?
Just yesterday FoxNews forced Hannity to give up a paid speaking role at a tea party gathering. Is it because having Hannity as a paid speaker would show that FoxNews and the tea party were very intertwined, and FoxNews wanted to at least try to show some semblance of 'non-biased reporting', or is it because FoxNews is already distancing themselves from the movement?
Sarah only drew 3,000-5,000 in Boston.
The rally in DC yesterday- 6,000 - 10,000 people (compare to an immigration rally held last month at 200,000 in DC).
Did the tea party peak too early? Are they already yesterday's (and Fox) news?
It almost appears to be a symbiotic relationship between right wing media and the tea party. 'Events' flare up mirroring the reports on right wing media. They feed each other, in a very disturbing way. The tea party is grassroots - but grassroots causes can certainly be directed and shaped by the media. The tea party is good for right wing media, so right wing media fuels the fire, as long as it draws ratings. If the tea party no longer is a right wing media 'darling' what will happen to it?
Just yesterday FoxNews forced Hannity to give up a paid speaking role at a tea party gathering. Is it because having Hannity as a paid speaker would show that FoxNews and the tea party were very intertwined, and FoxNews wanted to at least try to show some semblance of 'non-biased reporting', or is it because FoxNews is already distancing themselves from the movement?
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Everybody notice what foxpaws just did. She deliberately typed the phrase over and over again, hammering it home so that it will stick subconsciously. Nobody would deliberately type that phrase that many times that closely together by accident - it's redundant and it's tedious. She's obviously pushing a talking point and she's trying to mislead by following her tiresome repetition with FoxNews repeated over and over.
Also, she's trying to subtly imply that the tea parties are astroturfing, even though she KNOWS that isn't true. She's deliberately projecting and misleading.
Classic propaganda.
Or shall I just chalk it up to more "Creative Writing 101?"
Trying desperately to perpetuate Carville's narrative, eh?
when engaging in an act of political subterfuge, an effective way of hiding that fact is to accuse the other side of doing it.
In fact, the astroturfing that foxpaws is implying that Fox News and the tea parties are engaging in is exactly what happened last year with the protests over the AIG execs...
The fact of the matter is that the tea parties are genuine. However, the left created and then mastered the art of astroturfing.
so Foss - you really have nothing to say regarding the points I made - correct?
And shag - I said the the tea party was grassroots they are 'genuine' - I just pointed out the fact that they seem to be be in a odd synergetic relationship with right wing media.
And shag - I said the the tea party was grassroots they are 'genuine' - I just pointed out the fact that they seem to be be in a odd synergetic relationship with right wing media.
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Can't read, fox?
Here, let me spell it out for you -
You're either propagandizing or you are a terrible writer. One or the other.
Got it?
And you disappear for a couple of days and then show up demanding somebody respond to you? That's funny considering how many responses you leave hanging.
You're a parody of yourself.
Oh, and fox - why don't you spell out exactly who you mean when you say 'right wing media.' Don't pussyfoot around, coward.
Well, actually Foss, I find if I use 'they' or 'them' instead of spelling it out, you get lost.
You really do miss me don't you? I embraced my geek side this weekend and sci-fi'd it at a local convention. Drinks with Christopher Judge (Teal'c ) trump answering posts any day.
Bump up the things I haven't answered - I am in town until Friday - I'll do my best to make sure your Foxpaw's fix is satisfied Foss...
Oh, there's lots - HotAir, FoxNews, NYPost, World Net Daily, syndicated conservative talk radio...
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You mean YOU get lost?
Ah, so you're saying that you think everybody is too stupid to understand your pronoun usage. That would fall under "Creative Writing 101" wouldn't it?
By the way, you're lying. It's so obvious it's ridiculous. Your reputation as a dishonest propagandizing smear merchant supersedes your protestation that you're just a bumbling, incompetent writer.Nobody misses you, fox, I assure you, despite your obvious burning desire to be wanted. But it is worth pointing out your hypocrisy when you sail in demanding answers like a bull in a china shop after you ignore other people's posts.You really do miss me don't you? I embraced my geek side this weekend and sci-fi'd it at a local convention. Drinks with Christopher Judge (Teal'c ) trump answering posts any day.
Bump up the things I haven't answered - I am in town until Friday - I'll do my best to make sure your Foxpaw's fix is satisfied Foss...
You don't deserve the respect that you don't give other people.
Again, you're being vague. Is HotAir the only blog you include in 'right wing media?' What about Ace of Spades or Townhall? Could you be more specific when you say "syndicated conservative talk radio?" A comprehensive list would be most helpful. Don't be scared, fox. Just put it out there.
Also, did you mean 'synergistic' when you said 'synergetic?' And do you know the difference between symbiotic and synergistic?
This post will expire in 24 hours. If you do not respond by then, I will assume you have no answer and move on. If you roll in here in 2 days demanding a response, you will not get one.
wow - you do miss me - deadlines even...
HotAir - I could have listed many - just google it...
I don't think that Townhall, American Thinker, NRO are of the same ilk - that is why I didn't list Townhall with HotAir.
Syndicated right talk radio... Rush, Beck, Savage, Hannity, Imus, Medved, Dennis Miller... Probably many, many more...
HotAir - I could have listed many - just google it...
I don't think that Townhall, American Thinker, NRO are of the same ilk - that is why I didn't list Townhall with HotAir.
Syndicated right talk radio... Rush, Beck, Savage, Hannity, Imus, Medved, Dennis Miller... Probably many, many more...
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So, how do you support your claim that the Tea Parties have a SYMBIOTIC relationship with your so-called 'right wing media' outlets? (Or is it synergetic - errrrrrrrrrr - synergistic?
) You do understand that SYMBIOTIC means they cannot survive without each other, right? But all the sources you've mentioned were and are successful BEFORE the Tea Parties came about. And since you've also claimed that the Tea Parties have peaked and (by implication) are declining, please explain why these outlets are STILL successful.
I'd also like to see you furnish EVIDENCE that backs up your claim, but since you don't ever read or follow any of these outlets, I'm sure you're going to be unable to comply.
Nevertheless, I breathlessly await your backpedaling answer.
Foss - Why don't you check out the different types of symbiotic relationships...
Did you even know there are different types?
obligate - which means that the survival of at least one of the organisms is dependent on the other (but not necessarily both).
facultative - where the relationship between the two is beneficial, but not absolutely essential for either entity.
It can be parasitic, it can be mutual...
Did you even know there are different types?
obligate - which means that the survival of at least one of the organisms is dependent on the other (but not necessarily both).
facultative - where the relationship between the two is beneficial, but not absolutely essential for either entity.
It can be parasitic, it can be mutual...
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Why don't you just use the common definition, fox. Still waiting for you to furnish a) evidence and b) explain the definition.
But according to your logic it's fair to say that Obama and Bill Ayers have a symbiotic relationship. That Obama and Reverend Jeremiah Wright have a symbiotic relationship. Obama and Van Jones. Obama and ACORN. Obama and Hugo Chavez. Obama and GLSEN's pervert director. Obama and GM. Obama and Wall Street. Obama and Soros. Obama and Bush.
I believe we have a symbiotic relationship Foss...
Right wing media banks on the tea party - the tea party grows because of exposure in right wing media...
How's that?
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We don't have any relationship, fox, despite your best efforts to make that happen. Go find yourself somebody else. I'm not available, and I'm not interested in giving any kind of merciful attention to a love starved spinster liberal hippie.I believe we have a symbiotic relationship Foss...
Right wing media banks on the tea party - the tea party grows because of exposure in right wing media...
How's that?
Can you define what you mean by "right-wing media," foxpaws.
Because it seems to have become a catch-all definition for anything and everything that isn't hard-left leaning, pro-statism.
And what is "right wing?"
Is a Nazi right wing? What about a libertarian?
Because it seems to have become a catch-all definition for anything and everything that isn't hard-left leaning, pro-statism.
And what is "right wing?"
Is a Nazi right wing? What about a libertarian?
Nazi's are actually left, if you go by a rather text book definition of political left and right wing poles.
Most libertarians would say 'neither'. So do you go by what they say - or by the textbook standard of the political scale?
So as you can see where something is placed on a political scale is rather subjective to who and how it is being discussed. Although Shag will chime in here with a textbook definition...
I would place 'right wing media' as reactionary conservatives.
Most libertarians would say 'neither'. So do you go by what they say - or by the textbook standard of the political scale?
So as you can see where something is placed on a political scale is rather subjective to who and how it is being discussed. Although Shag will chime in here with a textbook definition...
I would place 'right wing media' as reactionary conservatives.
So you really don't have an answer?
And that's understandable because it's a political tool used to simply dismiss opposition voices that challenge the dominance and media monopoly that has traditionally held by the political left in this country.
Though, despite your lack of a specific definition or application, you keep using the term quite authoritatively.
And that's understandable because it's a political tool used to simply dismiss opposition voices that challenge the dominance and media monopoly that has traditionally held by the political left in this country.
Though, despite your lack of a specific definition or application, you keep using the term quite authoritatively.
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BINGO! Thread winner.
Oh, is that cheerleading, fox?
Actually what she's doing is trying to tie the Tea Party to Limbaugh and Beck while Clinton and Joe Klein try to tie Limbaugh and Beck to sedition and violence a la Oklahoma City and such. She's just propagandizing again.
Remember, with foxpaws, there is no honesty. Just manipulation.