Obama coarsens his own discourse with 'teabaggers'
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... There's so much to be critical of within this government, and past governments, that I hesitate to start fixating on such minute details, or exercising some kind of radical sensitivity- such as usually is employed by the political left in this country as an attack.
Does he call people associated with the Tea Party "teabaggers" in private.
I don't doubt that.
However, you and I both know the 'bagger' term is used in progressive and useful idiot circles because of the sexual connotation. But we've also seen the trend in poliitcs to used the "-er" as a way of trivializing it.
Truth-ers
birther-ers
bag....gers.
... this is a guy who routinely exposes himself when speaking candidly without teleprompters.
And it was from last November, back then most of the Tea Party members weren't aware of what "tea bagging" meant, so the anger hadn't really been voiced.
So he could have just been casually using the term as short hand, associating it with "birhters and truthers."
If/when they use it now, it's deliberately to provoke and instigate. Back then, it was just an "inside joke" that they'd mock the protesters with.
Does he call people associated with the Tea Party "teabaggers" in private.
I don't doubt that.
However, you and I both know the 'bagger' term is used in progressive and useful idiot circles because of the sexual connotation. But we've also seen the trend in poliitcs to used the "-er" as a way of trivializing it.
Truth-ers
birther-ers
bag....gers.
... this is a guy who routinely exposes himself when speaking candidly without teleprompters.
And it was from last November, back then most of the Tea Party members weren't aware of what "tea bagging" meant, so the anger hadn't really been voiced.
So he could have just been casually using the term as short hand, associating it with "birhters and truthers."
If/when they use it now, it's deliberately to provoke and instigate. Back then, it was just an "inside joke" that they'd mock the protesters with.
They proudly called themselves teabaggers until someone pointed out what the sexual connotation is and then all of a sudden it's the n word.
You could say they reaped what they sowed although not how they may have wanted.
You could say they reaped what they sowed although not how they may have wanted.
Yeah. They were proud of what they were doing, they were proud of cause.
And they are right to be offended by the sexual connotation IMPLIED by the snarky, condescending pillow biters in the media.
No, you couldn't say that at all.
The term Teabagging has been around a lot longer than the Tea Party.
If someone had been bothered to check by just doing a google search this would have come up.
They're the ones who carelessly opened themselves up to this.
At least they didn't call themselves salad tossers (another inuended term)or teabagging salad tossers or something.
It's certainly amusing and indicative of naivete and ignorance perhaps?
Or just an unfortunate coincidence....
If you decide to call yourself something it's prudent to check what that word means before adopting it.
Proof?
AFAIK the term was first used in reference to tea partiers by the MSM; specifically CNN.
Unless you can show that they were the first ones to use that term, no you cannot reasonably say that.
You might want to checkout those talking points before you buy into them and start repeating them.
Maybe on your part...
Again, proof?
Just google up teabagging
http://www.google.com/#hl=en&source...earch&rlz=1R2GGLL_enUS346&fp=c287dcfb14f8c3b2
<LI class=g>Tea bag (sexual act) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
To tea bag is a slang term for the act of a man placing his scrotum in the mouth of a sexual partner. The practice resembles dipping a tea bag into a cup of ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea_bag_(sexual_act) - Cached
http://www.google.com/#hl=en&source...earch&rlz=1R2GGLL_enUS346&fp=c287dcfb14f8c3b2
<LI class=g>Tea bag (sexual act) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
To tea bag is a slang term for the act of a man placing his scrotum in the mouth of a sexual partner. The practice resembles dipping a tea bag into a cup of ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea_bag_(sexual_act) - Cached
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/right-now/2010/05/turning_teabagger_into_a_slur.html
From the comments in this article.
Another (bigger) wrinkle is that the term "teabagger" did not come from Obama or pundits, but from some of the earliest Tea Party organizers themselves. Their stuff was branded "Teabag Obama" all over the internet, and the word appeared on countless signs at the protests. Only once word of the more "grotesque" meaning got around did they decide to turn on the term and start calling it a slur.
Not to defend its continued use, but let there be no mistake about where it came from
The only wrinkle here is that some tea partyers have indulged the joke and printed up "Proud to be a Teabagger" buttons.
From the comments in this article.
Another (bigger) wrinkle is that the term "teabagger" did not come from Obama or pundits, but from some of the earliest Tea Party organizers themselves. Their stuff was branded "Teabag Obama" all over the internet, and the word appeared on countless signs at the protests. Only once word of the more "grotesque" meaning got around did they decide to turn on the term and start calling it a slur.
Not to defend its continued use, but let there be no mistake about where it came from
The only wrinkle here is that some tea partyers have indulged the joke and printed up "Proud to be a Teabagger" buttons.
http://teabagobama.blogspot.com/
http://www.lemondrop.com/2009/04/10/gop-wants-to-teabag-barack-obama/
If they want to teabag Obama then they would be teabaggers.
http://www.lemondrop.com/2009/04/10/gop-wants-to-teabag-barack-obama/
If they want to teabag Obama then they would be teabaggers.
They didn't start calling themselves "teabaggers" first.
That was a term used by the "journalists" in the media and members of Obama's "above the fray" administration.
Second, are you seriously saying that before adopting the imagery of a earth changing revolutionary event, you should research to see what kind of slang, sexual terms can be manipulated and used to insult the movement?
And if you can twist some kind of double meaning, do you abandon the concept?
Do you realize how absurd you are?
Should someone familiar with the Boston Tea Party automatically think that Anderson Cooper, amongst others, it going associate that with sexual acts?
And why is it really "ignorant" for a group of people to be unfamiliar with the term? What other sexual slang should they be familiar with? Donkey Punch? Rusty Trombone? Dirty Sanchez?
First, what does that say about you (collective you) who except and excuse this.
And second, what does it say about the mentality of the political left who immediately launch juvenile attacks with sexual imagery, in order to mock or marginalize those they are politically or socially threatened by.
They said they wanted to tea bag Obama first.
Yes if you adopt a name you should check to see what that may mean.
It's ignorant because politics is war without bullets and this term is easily found using google.
If they decided to call themselves donkey punchers or these other terms you have informed me of it would be prudent to look that up too.
It is never a good strategy to open oneself up to derision and ridicule due to one's own ignorance and lack of easy research.
I'm not excusing this or accepting it just commenting on the slightly self inflicted predicament the Tea Partiers have placed themselves in.
Maybe they could say they're gay (happy) about the conservative future
with the Tea Party and then protest when that term is explained.
And what it says about the left is that they play to win using all available ammunition in their "War"
The Republicans like to scare people as ammunition and play to win as best they can come up with too.
If you think politics is a gentleman's game then you too are naive.
fossten
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Oh really?
The first time I EVER heard it used was by Anderson Cooper of CNN.
And he ought to know better.
I was refering to the current Tea Party that just sprung up in the last 2 years and nowhere in your link to the Boston Tea Party of 1773 is the term tea bagging in reference to their actions mentioned.
They didn't say they were going to tea bag the British like the current tea party people said they were going to tea bag Obama.
fossten
Dedicated LVC Member
Yeah I know, that's MY POINT. The term 'teabagging' does NOT precede the Tea Party.
Well the term "teabagging" precedes the current Tea Party of the last 2 years which is not a continuation of the 1773 Boston Tea Party but only inspired by it.
You're splitting hairs.
fossten
Dedicated LVC Member
And you're not? You're trying to rationalize away the OBVIOUS pejorative nature of the term by saying that a few people in the Tea Party used it, despite the OVERWHELMING sentiment from the Tea Party masses that this is an insulting, disgusting reference that was clearly and DELIBERATELY used by the left to demean and mock and deny credibility.
In short, you're using the flawed argument "exception proves the rule."
the comments to an article?!
That is all you have?
You have no argument. You are simply relying nothing other then the assertion of someone else; on hearsay to back up your irrational assertions.
Your whole analysis is based on speculation that is refuted by the facts.
No double standard please. One standard is enough.
FYI fossten is not splitting hairs he is simply expecting more then the sloppy, irrational "analysis" you are offering.
fossten
Dedicated LVC Member
Are you brain dead, or do you just not pay attention to topics and just blithely post without thinking?
Did you not recognize that this thread is about a DOUBLE STANDARD set in place by Obama? It has nothing to do with naivete.
Man, it's like talking to a robot.
"...does not compute..."
All I'm saying is that some Tea Party members called themselves teabaggers first like the guy in the photo above before realizing what it can be refering to.
They needlessly gave the "enemy" ammunition to ridicule them with.
They needlessly gave the "enemy" ammunition to ridicule them with.
Death Panels is the obvious one.
Ok the Tea Partiers are inexperienced in the warfare of hardball politics.
cammerfe
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The guy in the picture may, in fact, be a 'tea-bagger'. But that doesn't give the Liberal-Progressive-Marxist any license to apply it to everyone they disagree with. Just like it would be wrong for me to call all of them A S S holes. Indeed, most of them probably are, but I try to be selective about name-calling.
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