vettetols
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the parts people in this town have me totally confused. can you guys set me straight on the difference?
Four simple clues for a Base GEN I LS....
A base model LS will not have an SST shifter.
A base model LS will come with 16" wheels & tires.
A base model LS will have chrome inserts on both bumpers.
A base model LS will have a half wood steering wheel & a wood shift knob.
Four simple clues for a Sport GEN I LS....
A sport model LS will have an SST shifter.
A sport model LS will come with 17" wheels & tires.
A sport model LS will not have chrome inserts on both bumpers.
A sport model LS will have an all leather steering wheel & leather shift knob.
Four simple clues for a Base GEN I LS....
A base model LS will not have an SST shifter.
A base model LS will come with 16" wheels & tires.
A base model LS will have chrome inserts on both bumpers.
A base model LS will have a half wood steering wheel & a wood shift knob.
Four simple clues for a Sport GEN I LS....
A sport model LS will have an SST shifter.
A sport model LS will come with 17" wheels & tires.
A sport model LS will not have chrome inserts on both bumpers.
A sport model LS will have an all leather steering wheel & leather shift knob.
Correct.i have an 04' which is a 2nd gen, correct? what are the differences
Very well, lets move on to the GEN II LS, specifically, your 2004.I have an 04' which is a 2nd gen, correct? What are the differences?
You forgot the LSE package available on the 04 & 05 (became standard on 06 V8's) BTW I do not think the 04 Ultimate had the sport suspension as it was way softer and wallowed compared to the Sport. Also the parts book lists three shocks for the 04, standard, sport and in older books there was also a European shock for the exported cars. The LSE package was only available on the Sport and included the front treatment, side skirts, rear deck spoiler, LSE Walnut burl interior trim and 17" surprisingly light wheels.Very well, lets move on to the GEN II LS, specifically, your 2004.
For the V6, the LS came in two forms....
Luxury, which is the Base model and Premium, which included the addition of Homelink, folding outside mirrors, wood trim, adjustable pedals and memory drivers seat.
For the V8, the LS came in two forms....
Sport, which is the Base model and Ultimate, which included optional items like, moonroof, AdvanceTrac, cooled seats and wood trim.
Bottom line for your 2004 LS is this....
There is nothing mechanically different between the two trim groups. All V6's had the same shocks, sway bar and engine. All V8's had the same shocks, sway bar and engine. So if you are trying to get a "mechanical" part for your LS, it doesn't matter which trim group you have. They are all the same.
You forgot the LSE package available on the 04 & 05 (became standard on 06 V8's) BTW I do not think the 04 Ultimate had the sport suspension as it was way softer and wallowed compared to the Sport. Also the parts book lists three shocks for the 04, standard, sport and in older books there was also a European shock for the exported cars. The LSE package was only available on the Sport and included the front treatment, side skirts, rear deck spoiler, LSE Walnut burl interior trim and 17" surprisingly light wheels.
I can't say, as I only weighed the 17" LSE wheels when I was shopping for 18" wheels that were as light as the originals. I settled for a set of 18" wheels that were a lb. and a half heavier at 23.5 lbs, each. The overall weight of the wheel tire combination was almost the same due to the lower weight of the lower profile 18" tires. To get 18" wheels in the 22 lb. range would have raised the per wheel price from $785 each to over $1200 each.As for the wheels, you say theres a noticeable difference in the weight compared to the other sets. Is this year specific, model specific, or only for the LSE trim...?
Four simple clues for a Base GEN I LS....
A base model LS will not have an SST shifter.
A base model LS will come with 16" wheels & tires.
A base model LS will have chrome inserts on both bumpers.
A base model LS will have a half wood steering wheel & a wood shift knob.
Four simple clues for a Sport GEN I LS....
A sport model LS will have an SST shifter.
A sport model LS will come with 17" wheels & tires.
A sport model LS will not have chrome inserts on both bumpers.
A sport model LS will have an all leather steering wheel & leather shift knob.
I have the 03 v8 ultimate sport, with grain steering wheel and shifter
:The easiest way to tell the difference between a Sport and non-Sport 2nd Gen LS (at least for the V8s) is the shifter. If it's an SST shifter, it's probably a Sport; if it's a non-SST shifter, it's a probably non-Sport (you can change the shifters, but almost all 2nd Gen V8s are Sports).
The SST shifter has the pattern P-R-N-D5-D4, and you can switch over from D5 to a +/- area. The non-SST shifter has P-R-N-D5 in a line, then a jog over to D4-3-2-1. There are pictures of them posted around here somewhere.
As noted above, the only functional differences between the two are the shocks, sway bars, and shifter; other than that, the parts are all the same.
You sure about the wheels part of that? My 2002 LS V8 has 17" chrome wheels (it has chrome inserts on both bumpers, half wood steering wheel and wood shifter knob, AdvanceTrac, VCS (Vehicle Communication System), no SST). Any ideas what mine is?
You sure about the wheels part of that? My 2002 LS V8 has 17" chrome wheels (it has chrome inserts on both bumpers, half wood steering wheel and wood shifter knob, AdvanceTrac, VCS (Vehicle Communication System), no SST). Any ideas what mine is?