Vitas
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Simply awesome.
President GEORGE W. BUSH Katrina Recovery Speach Best Ever
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JohnnyBz00LS
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Yes, the speech was suprisingly good. However, it's what a person DOES, not what they SAY that impresses me. Time will tell if GW lives up to all those promises. His track record for broken promises and lies to the American people preceeds him. So excuse me if I don't trust him.
After reading Johnny's take on the speech, I'm sorry I missed it. There was a football game on. I understand he accepted responsibility for the inadequate response to the hurricane. That should please some.
fossten
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JohnnyBz00LS said:
You're excused. You can go now.
:N
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bigdog1279
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who is excussed me thanks you mean i just read that for nothing wow
caboa
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JohnnyBz00LS said:
libs are the one with broken promises 60 years of thier control in LA produced
nothing but a poor city and state
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bigdog1279
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i would say simply asome also aslong as he actualy lives up to it
fossten
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JohnnyBz00LS said:
Typical Fib response. Did you watch Ted Koppel's Nightline?, His "man on the street" tried everything he could to get the people watching to bash Bush, but he failed. They all said it was the mayor's fault or their fault for not leaving when they had the chance. They even said they believed Bush and didn't blame him one bit. The reporter finally sent it back to Ted, flabbergasted, and said [slight paraphrase] "Gee, Ted, nobody's falling for my crap! They won't be skeptical no matter how hard I try!"
I guess you're disconnected from the ACTUAL VICTIMS OF THE TRAGEDY who would certainly be in a position to make a valid judgment. Or do you think you're smarter or better than they are?
JohnnyBz00LS
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bigdog1279 said:
Sorry man, I know it's not kosher to nit-pick grammar here, but do you read what you type? At least TRY using some punctuation, it'll help get your message across.
JohnnyBz00LS
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fossten said:
Typical repug.............. :slam
No, I'm not saying I'm better or smarter than THEY are, just better and smarter than YOU are. :N
Show me where I've EVER tried to excuse the LA gov or NO major from blame for this tragedy. I've ONLY claimed that BuSh SHARES the blame with them (BuSh himself even agrees with that....... DEE DEE DEE). All I hear from you RWWs is the excuse that the LA gov waited too long to ASK for federal help, that she didn't "make a clear request for help", blah, blah blah. Let me ask you THIS question: Did the feds ever think to OFFER help to the LA gov??? Or did they just sit on their hands waiting for the phone to ring?? Not to sound sexist, but you know how women can be (evasive) when asking for help. "No, I don't NEED your help, but if you are going to OFFER it, SURE, I'll take it!!"
JohnnyBz00LS
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caboa said:
Now THAT is a typical repug response!
Vitas
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JohnnyBz00LS said:
Thank you for acknowledging that, even with your reservations.
Vitas
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Kbob said:
bigdog1279 said:
fossten said:
What bigdog1279 said was that it was a waste of bandwith to spend the time viewing fossten's comments.
"who is excused
me
thanks
you mean i just read that for nothing
wow"
easy
fossten
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JohnnyBz00LS said:
Actually, the news accounts show that Bush DID ask the governor if she wanted his help, and she told him NO, she wanted 24 hours to think about it. This while water was pouring in the levees. Shows how little you pay attention.
*owned*
Here's the transcript of the interviews after the speech and the Fiberal attempt to twist the minds or words of the people:
To ABC's Surprise, Katrina Victims Praise Bush and Blame Nagin
Posted by Brent Baker on September 16, 2005 - 00:50.
Not one of the six people interviewed on camera had a bad word for Bush -- despite Reynolds' best efforts. Reynolds goaded: "Was there anything that you found hard to believe that he said, that you thought, well, that's nice rhetoric, but, you know, the proof is in the pudding?" Brenda Marshall answered, "No, I didn't," prompting Reynolds to marvel to anchor Ted Koppel: "Very little skepticism here.”
Reynolds pressed another woman: “Did you feel that the President was sincere tonight?" She affirmed: "Yes, he was." Reynolds soon wondered who they held culpable for the levee breaks. Unlike the national media, London did not blame supposed Bush-mandated budget cuts: "They've been allocated federal funds to fix the levee system, and it never got done. I fault the mayor of our city personally. I really do."
Full transcript follows. Video excerpt: RealPlayer or Windows Media. Plus MP3
Immediately after Bush finished his speech from Jackson Square in New Orleans, at about 8:26pm local CDT, Ted Koppel, anchor of ABC's hour-long coverage, went to Dean Reynolds who was outside in a parking lot with a group of black people from New Orleans who are living at the Reliant Center next to the Astrodome.
(No names were provided on-screen for those interviewed, so I only have first names for two, and no name for one, of the six.)
Reynolds elicited reaction from the group sitting in chairs: “I'd like to get the reaction of Connie London who spent several horrible hours at the Superdome. You heard the President say repeatedly that you are not alone, that the country stands beside you. Do you believe him?”
Connie London: “Yeah, I believe him, because here in Texas, they have truly been good to us. I mean-”
Reynolds: “Did you get a sense of hope that you could return to your home one day in New Orleans?”
London: “Yes, I did. I did.”
Reynolds: “Did you harbor any anger toward the President because of the slow federal response?”
London: “No, none whatsoever, because I feel like our city and our state government should have been there before the federal government was called in. They should have been on their jobs.”
Reynolds: “And they weren't?”
London: “No, no, no, no. Lord, they wasn't. I mean, they had RTA buses, Greyhound buses, school buses, that was just sitting there going under water when they could have been evacuating people.”
Reynolds: “Now, Mary, you were rescued from your house which was basically submerged in your neighborhood. Did you hear something in the President's words that you could glean some hope from?”
Mary: “Yes. He said we're coming back, and I believe we're coming back. He's going to build the city up. I believe that.”
Reynolds: “You believe you'll be able to return to your home?”
Mary: “Yes, I do.”
Reynolds: “Why?”
Mary: “Because I really believe what he said. I believe. I got faith.”
Reynolds: “Back here in the corner, we've got Brenda Marshall, right?”
Brenda Marshall: “Yes.”
Reynolds: “Now, Brenda, you were, spent, what, several days at the Superdome, correct?”
Marshall: “Yes, I did.”
Reynolds: “What did you think of what the President told you tonight?”
Marshall: “Well, I think -- I think the speech was wonderful, you know, him specifying that we will return back and that we will have like mobile homes, you know, rent or whatever. I was listening to that pretty good. But I think it was a well fine speech.”
Reynolds: “Was there any particular part of it that stood out in your mind? I mean, I saw you all nod when he said the Crescent City is going to come back one day.”
Marshall: “Well, I think I was more excited about what he said. That's probably why I nodded.”
Reynolds: “Was there anything that you found hard to believe that he said, that you thought, well, that's nice rhetoric, but, you know, the proof is in the pudding?”
Marshall: “No, I didn't.”
Reynolds: “Good. Well, very little skepticism here. Frederick Gould, did you hear something that you could hang on to tonight from the President?”
Frederick Gould: “Well, I just know, you know, he said good things to me, you know, what he said, you know. I was just trying to listen to everything they were saying, you know.”
Reynolds: “And Cecilia, did you feel that the President was sincere tonight?”
Cecilia: “Yes, he was.”
Reynolds: “Do you think this is a little too late, or do you think he's got a handle on the situation?”
Cecilia: “To me it was a little too late. It was too late, but he should have did something more about it.”
Reynolds: “Now do you all believe that you will one day return to your homes?”
Voices: “Yes” and “I do.”
Reynolds: “I mean, do you all want to return to your homes? We're hearing some people don't even want to go back.”
Mary: “I want to go back.”
Reynolds: “You want to go back.”
Mary: “I want to go back. That's my home. That's all I know.”
Reynolds: “Is it your home for your whole life?”
Mary: “Right. That's my home.”
Reynolds: “And do you expect to go back to the house or a brand new dwelling or what?”
Mary: “I expect to go back to something. I know it ain't my house, because it's gone.”
Reynolds: “What is the one mistake that could have been prevented that would have made your lives much better? Is it simply getting all of you out much sooner or what was it?”
Mary: “I'm going to tell you the truth. I had the opportunity to get out, but I didn't believe it. So I stayed there till it was too late.”
Reynolds: “Did you all have the same feeling? I mean, did you all have the opportunity to get out, but you were skeptical that this was the really bad one?”
Unnamed woman: “No, I got out when they said evacuate. I got out that Sunday and I left before the storm came. But I know they could have did better than what they did because like they said, buses were just sitting there, and they could have came through there and got people out, because they were saying immediate evacuation. Some people didn't believe it. But they should have brung the force of the army through to help these people and make them understand it really was coming.”
London: “And really it wasn't Hurricane Katrina that really tore up the city. It was when they opened the floodgates. It was not the hurricane itself. It was the floodgates, when they opened the floodgates, that's where all the water came.”
Reynolds: “Do you blame anybody for this?”
London: “Yes. I mean, they've been allocated federal funds to fix the levee system, and it never got done. I fault the mayor of our city personally. I really do.”
Reynolds: “All right. Well, thank you all very much. I wish you all the best of luck. I hope you don't have to spend too much more time here in the Reliant Center and you can get back to New Orleans as the President said. Ted, that is the word from the Houston Astrodome. And as I said, when the President said that the Crescent City will rise again, there were nods all around this parking lot.”
UPDATE: On Friday’s Good Morning America, Jessica Yellin avoided the pro-Bush consensus of those shown on ABC the night before and characterized the reaction of evacuees as “mixed,” a description she managed to support by running a clip from a woman in a different location.Connie London: “Yeah, I believe him, because here in Texas, they have truly been good to us. I mean-”
Reynolds: “Did you get a sense of hope that you could return to your home one day in New Orleans?”
London: “Yes, I did. I did.”
London: “No, none whatsoever, because I feel like our city and our state government should have been there before the federal government was called in. They should have been on their jobs.”
Reynolds: “And they weren't?”
London: “No, no, no, no. Lord, they wasn't. I mean, they had RTA buses, Greyhound buses, school buses, that was just sitting there going under water when they could have been evacuating people.”
Reynolds: “Now, Mary, you were rescued from your house which was basically submerged in your neighborhood. Did you hear something in the President's words that you could glean some hope from?”
Mary: “Yes. He said we're coming back, and I believe we're coming back. He's going to build the city up. I believe that.”
Reynolds: “You believe you'll be able to return to your home?”
Mary: “Yes, I do.”
Reynolds: “Why?”
Mary: “Because I really believe what he said. I believe. I got faith.”
Reynolds: “Back here in the corner, we've got Brenda Marshall, right?”
Brenda Marshall: “Yes.”
Reynolds: “Now, Brenda, you were, spent, what, several days at the Superdome, correct?”
Marshall: “Yes, I did.”
Reynolds: “What did you think of what the President told you tonight?”
Marshall: “Well, I think -- I think the speech was wonderful, you know, him specifying that we will return back and that we will have like mobile homes, you know, rent or whatever. I was listening to that pretty good. But I think it was a well fine speech.”
Reynolds: “Was there any particular part of it that stood out in your mind? I mean, I saw you all nod when he said the Crescent City is going to come back one day.”
Marshall: “Well, I think I was more excited about what he said. That's probably why I nodded.”
Reynolds: “Was there anything that you found hard to believe that he said, that you thought, well, that's nice rhetoric, but, you know, the proof is in the pudding?”
Marshall: “No, I didn't.”
Reynolds: “Good. Well, very little skepticism here. Frederick Gould, did you hear something that you could hang on to tonight from the President?”
Frederick Gould: “Well, I just know, you know, he said good things to me, you know, what he said, you know. I was just trying to listen to everything they were saying, you know.”
Reynolds: “And Cecilia, did you feel that the President was sincere tonight?”
Cecilia: “Yes, he was.”
Reynolds: “Do you think this is a little too late, or do you think he's got a handle on the situation?”
Cecilia: “To me it was a little too late. It was too late, but he should have did something more about it.”
Reynolds: “Now do you all believe that you will one day return to your homes?”
Voices: “Yes” and “I do.”
Reynolds: “I mean, do you all want to return to your homes? We're hearing some people don't even want to go back.”
Mary: “I want to go back.”
Reynolds: “You want to go back.”
Mary: “I want to go back. That's my home. That's all I know.”
Reynolds: “Is it your home for your whole life?”
Mary: “Right. That's my home.”
Reynolds: “And do you expect to go back to the house or a brand new dwelling or what?”
Mary: “I expect to go back to something. I know it ain't my house, because it's gone.”
Reynolds: “What is the one mistake that could have been prevented that would have made your lives much better? Is it simply getting all of you out much sooner or what was it?”
Mary: “I'm going to tell you the truth. I had the opportunity to get out, but I didn't believe it. So I stayed there till it was too late.”
Reynolds: “Did you all have the same feeling? I mean, did you all have the opportunity to get out, but you were skeptical that this was the really bad one?”
Unnamed woman: “No, I got out when they said evacuate. I got out that Sunday and I left before the storm came. But I know they could have did better than what they did because like they said, buses were just sitting there, and they could have came through there and got people out, because they were saying immediate evacuation. Some people didn't believe it. But they should have brung the force of the army through to help these people and make them understand it really was coming.”
London: “And really it wasn't Hurricane Katrina that really tore up the city. It was when they opened the floodgates. It was not the hurricane itself. It was the floodgates, when they opened the floodgates, that's where all the water came.”
Reynolds: “Do you blame anybody for this?”
London: “Yes. I mean, they've been allocated federal funds to fix the levee system, and it never got done. I fault the mayor of our city personally. I really do.”
Reynolds: “All right. Well, thank you all very much. I wish you all the best of luck. I hope you don't have to spend too much more time here in the Reliant Center and you can get back to New Orleans as the President said. Ted, that is the word from the Houston Astrodome. And as I said, when the President said that the Crescent City will rise again, there were nods all around this parking lot.”
On the September 16 GMA, Yellin reported: "Evacuees watching the speech from Baton Rouge and Houston had mixed reviews."
Woman outside at Astrodome, in clip from ABC’s Thursday night coverage: "He said we're coming back, and I believe we're coming back. He's going to build the city up. I believe that.”
Woman inside in Baton Rouge: "All they can do is tell you what they're going to do. We need something done now. Yesterday."
The thing I hate the most is when a disaster, whether terrorism or natural cause, happens and everyone with some political imput decides to start blaming people or making accusations. With the controversies around 9/11 stating that it was staged so we could invade Afghanistan and Iraq, personally I think it's bull. If any of you younger guys, or older guys who still watch MTV etc., saw Mike Myers and Kanye West collection donations on television, you know exactly what I mean.
Kanye West-"George Bush doesn't care about black people"
http://www.collegehumor.com/movies/1604601/
Theres one thing wanting racial equality, which I'm sure everyone would like to see. Then theres another thing with just being non-directly racist. All the references to "they" kinda got me mad.
I mean come on. It wasn't his fault the governor denied the help, which I'm still unsure of why that law is in affect.
Kanye West-"George Bush doesn't care about black people"
http://www.collegehumor.com/movies/1604601/
Theres one thing wanting racial equality, which I'm sure everyone would like to see. Then theres another thing with just being non-directly racist. All the references to "they" kinda got me mad.
I mean come on. It wasn't his fault the governor denied the help, which I'm still unsure of why that law is in affect.
raVeneyes
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fossten said:
This first section is an EDITORIAL not a TRANSCRIPT...
fossten said:
And it's funny, if the reporter was trying to editorialize with these people's words as you say, then why didn't he follow up on this answer or press her for more. Nope...he just continued on as if she hadn't even said it.
fossten said:
If you notice she's not ignoring the pro-bush consensus of the ABC report, she's saying that the over all reaction (not just the reaction of those in the ABC report) was mixed...which may well be valid.
I do have to say though that this could well have been a chance for someone to editorialize using people's words, and you're not out of line for thinking that possible...I just think you're jumping too hard on it since you've no evidence for it.
JohnnyBz00LS
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Vitas said:
:I Now THAT's the understatement of the year! :bowrofl:
MonsterMark
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Fossten's comments are mostly on-target.
The reason some of his comments are not refuted is because the truth is hard to refute.
This coming from a casual observer, of course.
Keep up the good work Fossten and the other mighty rightys.
The reason some of his comments are not refuted is because the truth is hard to refute.
This coming from a casual observer, of course.
Keep up the good work Fossten and the other mighty rightys.
raVeneyes
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MonsterMark said:
now that...that's humor...
Casual observer? HA!
fossten
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"DEE DEE DEE"raVeneyes said:
I love how your best argument is that it "may well be valid" even though there is no evidence presented by either her or you to support that. You just made it up!
Just admit it...you don't have a leg to stand on here.
"DEE DEE DEE"
Althout the article mocks the broadcast, the entire broadcast part of the transcript is word for word, not an editorial. You're in denial. It's obvious to everyone else what happened. Oh, btw, I actually listened to the broadcast, did YOU? If you did, you would hear the incredulity and slant in Reynolds' tone.
Don't speculate. Investigate.
fossten
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JohnnyBz00LS said:
:bowrofl: And yet you still can't help yourself: You still have to read my comments.
*owned*