That doesn't mean that they aren't ripping customers off, just like the rest of the big chain stores. Most people have no idea that they aren't getting what they've paid for. And a customer shouldn't have to be an expert and watch over these places to make sure they're getting what they've paid for.
That's part of the reason I was mentioning the wheel bearing. (rolleyes)
It's not my experience, it's how they run their company. It's not a local policy to skip force matching unless the force measurement is over 35 lbs. It's the company's policy. Period.
This isn't showing your age, it's showing your misunderstanding of the topic being discussed. RFV has nothing to do with static (up and down) and dynamic (side to side) balancing. Static and dynamic balancing are corrected with weights. Road force balancing is not and never has been corrected with weights. In addition, road force balancing has been around for 30 years.Ok... so somehow I glazed over part of your post and missed this:
Back in the day... RFB was done one wheel at a time... on the car (starting to show my age).
It was a big heavy machine on wheels. You jacked up the wheel, and it sat on 2 rollers.
The rollers were motorized... and spun the tire. There were meters/gauges on the machine that gave readouts... and showed where to put the weights.
LOL... just call me grandpa sonny.
Not ingenious, ingenuitive, it means i can figure shit out.LOL... that's for sure... but you still have way too much ego. Calling yourself "ingenious" proves that.
If I had a dollar for every time you have mentioned on this site... that you only get 14mpg because you thrash on your car... I'd be a very wealthy man.
Over exaggeration of course... but you still made my point.
And you were doing so well recently behaving yourself. (rolleyes).
Well clearly vocabulary/grammar is not some "of the shit you can figure out"...
Then the guys running those machines had no idea what they were doing. This isn't a theoretical topic. It's basic physics. There's a reason that Tesla, Audi, etc (and your "exotics") all do road force balancing right off the line.
Im simply stating what I've been told and the people at these shops - i.e. Grand Prix Performance - know what they are doing and have done it a very long time. I never said RFB doesn't have validity its simply the machines have been known to have reliability issues and there is an aspect of both "art" and science in balancing. Ive RFB my 20" Senta's on my LS over the years, and at times havent, I cant say that I've noticed a dramatic improvement either way. The biggest difference in outcome in my experience has been between tires - my prior Conti DWS plus's had less vibration vs. my current BFGoodrich Comp A/S plus's no matter how they are balanced. My 20" HRE's with Michelin PS4's on my Porsche are RFB so Im not against it as long as the expense is reasonable...
That's the problem these days. These "good ole boys" aren't interested in learning anything new. They've been "doing X this way for 50 years and that's how they're going to keep doing it". The irony there is that road force balancing has been around for over 30 years. It's not complicated, and the machine tells them exactly what to do. But it's very similar to what we're seeing in politics these days, your regular Joe thinks he knows better than that engineer, scientist, etc who has dedicated their entire life to studying something. It's pretty sad to be honest where things have gone.
Lol, this ain't English class boy. Notice the lack of punctuation and capitalization, no one cares but you. If you fail to understand the message i can dress it up for you a little next time son. Sorry for confusing yer simple mind.
