The Case for a Federalism Amendment

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The Case for a Federalism Amendment
How the Tea Partiers can make Washington pay attention.

By RANDY E. BARNETT

In response to an unprecedented expansion of federal power, citizens have held hundreds of "tea party" rallies around the country, and various states are considering "sovereignty resolutions" invoking the Constitution's Ninth and Tenth Amendments. For example, Michigan's proposal urges "the federal government to halt its practice of imposing mandates upon the states for purposes not enumerated by the Constitution of the United States."

While well-intentioned, such symbolic resolutions are not likely to have the slightest impact on the federal courts, which long ago adopted a virtually unlimited construction of Congressional power. But state legislatures have a real power under the Constitution by which to resist the growth of federal power: They can petition Congress for a convention to propose amendments to the Constitution.

Article V provides that, "on the application of the legislatures of two thirds of the several states," Congress "shall call a convention for proposing amendments." Before becoming law, any amendments produced by such a convention would then need to be ratified by three-quarters of the states.

An amendments convention is feared because its scope cannot be limited in advance. The convention convened by Congress to propose amendments to the Articles of Confederation produced instead the entirely different Constitution under which we now live. Yet it is precisely the fear of a runaway convention that states can exploit to bring Congress to heel.

Here's how: State legislatures can petition Congress for a convention to propose a specific amendment. Congress can then avert a convention by proposing this amendment to the states, before the number of petitions reaches two-thirds. It was the looming threat of state petitions calling for a convention to provide for the direct election of U.S. senators that induced a reluctant Congress to propose the 17th Amendment, which did just that.

What sort of language would restore a healthy balance between federal and state power while protecting the liberties of the people?

One simple proposal would be to repeal the 16th Amendment enacted in 1913 that authorized a federal income tax. This single change would strike at the heart of unlimited federal power and end the costly and intrusive tax code. Congress could then replace the income tax with a "uniform" national sales or "excise" tax (as stated in Article I, section 8) that would be paid by everyone residing in the country as they consumed, and would automatically render savings and capital appreciation free of tax. There is precedent for repealing an amendment. In 1933, the 21st Amendment repealed the 18th Amendment that had empowered Congress to prohibit the sale of alcohol.

Alternatively, to restore balance between federal and state power and better protect individual liberty, the repeal of the income tax amendment could be folded into a new "Federalism Amendment" like this:

Section 1: Congress shall have power to regulate or prohibit any activity between one state and another, or with foreign nations, provided that no regulation or prohibition shall infringe any enumerated or unenumerated right, privilege or immunity recognized by this Constitution.

Section 2: Nothing in this article, or the eighth section of article I, shall be construed to authorize Congress to regulate or prohibit any activity that takes place wholly within a single state, regardless of its effects outside the state or whether it employs instrumentalities therefrom; but Congress may define and punish offenses constituting acts of war or violent insurrection against the United States.

Section 3: The power of Congress to appropriate any funds shall be limited to carrying into execution the powers enumerated by this Constitution and vested in the government of the United States, or in any department or officer thereof; or to satisfy any current obligation of the United States to any person living at the time of the ratification of this article.

Section 4: The 16th article of amendment to the Constitution of the United States is hereby repealed, effective five years from the date of the ratification of this article.

Section 5: The judicial power of the United States to enforce this article includes but is not limited to the power to nullify any prohibition or unreasonable regulation of a rightful exercise of liberty. The words of this article, and any other provision of this Constitution, shall be interpreted according to their public meaning at the time of their enactment.

Except for its expansion of Congressional power in Section 1, this proposed amendment is entirely consistent with the original meaning of the Constitution. It merely clarifies the boundary between federal and state powers, and reaffirms the power of courts to police this boundary and protect individual liberty.

Section 1 of the Federalism Amendment expands the power of Congress to include any interstate activity not contained in the original meaning of the Commerce Clause. Interstate pollution, for example, is not "commerce . . . among the several states," but is exactly the type of interstate problem that the Framers sought to specify in their list of delegated powers. This section also makes explicit that any restriction of an enumerated or unenumerated liberty of the people must be justified.

Section 2 then allows state policy experimentation by prohibiting Congress from regulating any activity that takes place wholly within a state. States, of course, retain their police power to regulate or prohibit such activity subject to the constraints imposed on them, for example, by Article I or the 14th Amendment. And a state is free to enter into compacts with other states to coordinate regulation and enforcement, subject to approval by Congress as required by Article I.

Section 3 adopts James Madison's reading of the taxing and borrowing powers of Article I to limit federal spending to that which is incident to an enumerated power. It explicitly allows Congress to honor its outstanding financial commitments to living persons, such its promise to make Social Security payments. Section 4 eliminates the federal income tax, after five years, in favor of a national sales or excise tax.

Finally, Section 5 authorizes judges to keep Congress within its limits by examining laws restricting the rightful exercise of liberty to ensure that they are a necessary and proper means to implement an enumerated power. This section also requires that the Constitution be interpreted according to its original meaning at the time of its enactment. But by expanding the powers of Congress to include regulating all interstate activity, the Amendment greatly relieves the political pressure on courts to adopt a strained reading of Congress's enumerated powers.

Could such a Federalism Amendment actually be adopted? Stranger things have happened -- including the adoption of each of the existing amendments. States have nothing to lose and everything to gain by making this Federalism Amendment the focus of their resistance to the shrinking of their reserved powers and infringements upon the rights retained by the people. And this Federalism Amendment would provide tea-party enthusiasts and other concerned Americans with a concrete and practical proposal by which we can restore our lost Constitution.

Mr. Barnett is a professor of constitutional law at Georgetown University and the author of "Restoring the Lost Constitution: The Presumption of Liberty" (Princeton, 2005).
 
The last thing we'd want to do is call for some kind of constitutional convention and let these unrestricted fools tinker with the constitution.
 
The last thing we'd want to do is call for some kind of constitutional convention and let these unrestricted fools tinker with the constitution.
If those 'unrestricted fools' can get their individual states to call for a convention - well, good for them. That would be probably the only way to move any changes regarding states' rights in the constitution - moving a 'states rights' amendment through congress might be a bit tricky...

And some states have a lot to lose by basically giving up Federal money- which is what this type of change would cause. It would be interesting, the states which you would think would be for increased state's rights - perhaps the south, Alaska, would lose the most in federal funds compared to the amount they pay to the feds. Many southern states get 50 to 60 percent more back in federal funds than they pay in. Alaska gets about 80% more in funds than it pays in. So, what would the deciding factor be? Status quo - or be even 'poorer' than you are now? Would the rich states get to be so rich that the division between the states that 'have' and the states that don't become such that some form of migration would occur. The balance would be that the poor states would have to tax more - so the rich who live in those states could migrate to a state with even more rich people in it so their tax liability would decrease. It happens a little already-with states that have little or no income taxes.

An interesting idea - Certainly Colorado has been part of many calls for a constitutional convention. It might be time. I think we are tired of supporting other states - last numbers I saw (maybe 3 years ago) we only got $.80 for every dollar we put into the federal coffers.
 
coud alsoways get your Tac-V army together and march on Congress :-D

just saw micheal moore's new movie saturday. Pretty good!
 
The last thing we'd want to do is call for some kind of constitutional convention and let these unrestricted fools tinker with the constitution.

Agreed. But it is an interesting idea, and the substance of the proposed "amendment" makes some real good points, IMO.
 
If those 'unrestricted fools' can get their individual
states to call for a convention - well, good for them.

The last time that happened, we got a new Constitution. Can't trust the elitists in all levels of government to try and do that and/or rewrite the Constitution (in part or in whole) toward more egalitarian ends; centralizing power in the process.

That would be probably the only way to move any changes regarding states' rights in the constitution

One word: originalism.

And some states have a lot to lose by basically giving up Federal money- which is what this type of change would cause.

A change like this could not be sudden, by any means. It would be a very slow process...
 
Agreed. But it is an interesting idea, and the substance of the proposed "amendment" makes some real good points, IMO.

I'm not positive, but I think Cal was being sarcastic....
 
I'm not positive, but I think Cal was being sarcastic....

The idea of a Constitutional convention, especially coming about in the manner prescribed in the article, is rather scary, IMO, because of the reasons pointed out. The last time we had that, we got a new constitution. The constitution we have now is fine and much better then any elites would propose. I would worry about them trying to inject their egalitarian/progressive views into the constitution in some way through this. But, it frankly would not pass the ratification process in that instance, IMO. This country is center-right after all.

However, as an intimidation tactic to put the brakes on Washington, it is an interesting idea. And the proposed, "amendment" makes some good points. As it is written, I like it. Again, it likely wouldn't be ratified.

Besides, the amendment as written would never make it out of a convention today. It would be bogged down in legalese and elitist doublespeak.
 
The idea of a Constitutional convention, especially coming about in the manner prescribed in the article, is rather scary, IMO, because of the reasons pointed out. The last time we had that, we got a new constitution. The constitution we have now is fine and much better then any elites would propose.

So, the tea party protesters are elitists? I thought those would be the ones pushing the states to enact a convention... they are mentioned in the sub head of your article shag...
 
So, the tea party protesters are elitists? I thought those would be the ones pushing the states to enact a convention... they are mentioned in the sub head of your article shag...

I am not saying that the tea party protesters are elitist. Quite the opposite actually. Are you intentionally mischaracterizing? again?
 
I am not saying that the tea party protesters are elitist. Quite the opposite actually. Are you intentionally mischaracterizing? again?

Shag - the only mention of a group, or any type of label in the article is about the tea party protesters... Also, if you look at the changes in the proposed amendment, it is pretty close to what the tea party presents itself as wanting...


The Case for a Federalism Amendment
How the Tea Partiers can make Washington pay attention.

By RANDY E. BARNETT

In response to an unprecedented expansion of federal power, citizens have held hundreds of "tea party" rallies around the country, and various states are considering "sovereignty resolutions" invoking the Constitution's Ninth and Tenth Amendments. For example, Michigan's proposal urges "the federal government to halt its practice of imposing mandates upon the states for purposes not enumerated by the Constitution of the United States."

It appears that within the article they are stating how that group, by backing the state's option of calling a constitutional convention, would be able to change the constitution. And it looks like this author is stating that these are the type of changes that the tea party group would like to see the states take on.

So, you have injected 'elitists' as some other group - not mentioned in the article? That is why I was confused.

I wasn't being sarcastic... I was being dead serious.

And Cal - once again, the article is talking about the tea party protesters - are those the unrestricted fools that you are talking about? No other group is mentioned, so I assumed you were talking about them when you mentioned 'fools'. That is why I figured it was a sarcastic moment on your part, I would imagine you don't believe that the tea party protesters are fools - but maybe...
 
And Cal - once again, the article is talking about the tea party protesters - are those the unrestricted fools that you are talking about?

Obviously not. To arrive at that conclusion based on your understanding of government or after considering everything else I've said is absurd. Are you really that dense or just trying to confuse things?

I'm talking about the fools in government.
I don't think highly enough of the people in government or power to give them the authority to tinker with the constitution.
 
Obviously not. To arrive at that conclusion based on your understanding of government or after considering everything else I've said is absurd. Are you really that dense or just trying to confuse things?

I'm talking about the fools in government.
I don't think highly enough of the people in government or power to give them the authority to tinker with the constitution.
Well, Cal - glad you cleared that up - It really read like the fools you were talking about were the tea party protesters... That is why I kept questioning this -

So, you don't think the states (meaning the state governments) should take on a constitutional convention?

But, it would be OK for the tea party protesters to 'tinker' with the constitution?

Once again - just trying to get an idea of where you stand before I start to delve too deeply into this discussion.
 
Well, Cal - glad you cleared that up - It really read like the fools you were talking about were the tea party protesters... That is why I kept questioning this -
Tea Party Protesters are housewives with card board signs- they don't have their hands in the constitution.

So, you don't think the states (meaning the state governments) should take on a constitutional convention?
I just stated, I don't trust those in government to do it.
I'd be happy if the federal government simple respected and obliged the constitution.

But, it would be OK for the tea party protesters to 'tinker' with the constitution?
What are tea party protesters?
You're projecting your centralized planning concept onto the group again.

Do I want a bunch of small business owners and retirees and college students calling a constitutional convention? No. first, they can't. second, I don't know what they necessary believe in. Though I'd probably trust a handful of people picked off the street before the leadership in the congress.

Once again - just trying to get an idea of where you stand before I start to delve too deeply into this discussion.

It's not a complicated position.
I support states rights but opening a constitutional convention would likely lead to an expansion of federal power because of the quality of our politicians. It's best to leave it as it is and simply start applying it.
 
Tea Party Protesters are housewives with card board signs- they don't have their hands in the constitution.
:)
What are tea party protesters?
You're projecting your centralized planning concept onto the group again.
It is a group - no matter how ill organized. And they are becoming better organized and more unified. Eventually they may become a 'real' group with centralized planning, would that be OK with you Cal? A stronger, cohesive and directed voice, with more clout, but the 'individualism' might be at risk.

And, I have it, no convention - too risky... so the states are pretty much doomed to remain as they are - fairly powerless in the current system where the federal government collects taxes and doles out money.
 
:) It is a group - no matter how ill organized.
Actually, more precisely, they are a lot of little groups.
That's why it demonstrates such a misunderstanding when you try to address them in universal terms regarding very specific issues.

And who... the people who attend the protest and rallies?
The individual 9/12 groups? The local "teaparty groups."
The libertarians? The frustrated Republicans and Democrats?
The Federalists? The constitutionalists? Or even just the liberals who support constitutional and transparent government?

are becoming better organized and more unified. Eventually they may become a 'real' group with centralized planning, would that be OK with you Cal?
Not possible, nor is it necessary.

A stronger, cohesive and directed voice, with more clout, but the 'individualism' might be at risk.
It'd be easier for your friends if they could identify a figure head and the set out to personally destroy them, wouldn't it? The Alinsky rules don't work so well when you can't personalize the attack.

And, I have it, no convention - too risky... so the states are pretty much doomed to remain as they are - fairly powerless in the current system where the federal government collects taxes and doles out money.
Is that what the constitution says?
Or is that just how your progressive friends have distorted things?
 
:) It is a group - no matter how ill organized.
Actually, more precisely, they are a lot of little groups.
That's why it demonstrates such a misunderstanding when you try to address them in universal terms regarding very specific issues.

And who... the people who attend the protest and rallies?
The individual 9/12 groups? The local "teaparty groups."
The libertarians? The frustrated Republicans and Democrats?
The Federalists? The constitutionalists? Or even just the liberals who support constitutional and transparent government?

are becoming better organized and more unified. Eventually they may become a 'real' group with centralized planning, would that be OK with you Cal?
Not possible, nor is it necessary.

A stronger, cohesive and directed voice, with more clout, but the 'individualism' might be at risk.
It'd be easier for your friends if they could identify a figure head and the set out to personally destroy them, wouldn't it? The Alinsky rules don't work so well when you can't personalize the attack.

And, I have it, no convention - too risky... so the states are pretty much doomed to remain as they are - fairly powerless in the current system where the federal government collects taxes and doles out money.
Is that what the constitution says?
Or is that just how your progressive friends have distorted things?

Perhaps it's wiser to just hold politicians and judges accountable to the constitution and affect reform that way, rather than giving a bunch of power seeking politicians the ability to tamper with a document that so many of them clearly don't understand.
 
:) so the states are pretty much doomed to remain as they are - fairly powerless in the current system where the federal government collects taxes and doles out money.

Apparently you missed what I said earlier in response to you...
 
Cal - you would have to start repealing a bunch of amendments to even try to get the states some of the power that they have relinquished over the years... that isn't going to happen - the Feds aren't going to take any action that diminishes their power... The amendments are part of the constitution, and the Supreme court is required to uphold them equally..

Regarding the tea party group - do you see them backing a 3rd party candidate for president? I have noticed that McCain is starting to back moderate (read centrist) Republicans lately-he has endorsed various candidates that seem to reflect his moderate views. This moves the Republican party even closer to the middle if it is allowed to continue and flourish - something the tea party protesters seem to be somewhat against... It looks like McCain is willing to wield what power remains from his candidacy to push the party in a direction he likes.

If a third party rises up - it will mostly likely take from the Republicans, and not as much from the Democrats - leaving the right in a weaker position- similar to the '96 elections. Is splitting the party an option?
 
Apparently you missed what I said earlier in response to you...

And what little nugget of knowledge was that Shag - that I am mischaracterizing something? The states are doomed at this point to remain fairly powerless in the current system. The fed has stacked the cards -
 
And what little nugget of knowledge was that Shag - that I am mischaracterizing something? The states are doomed at this point to remain fairly powerless in the current system. The fed has stacked the cards -

You can go back and look it up for yourself, it's only a few posts up. And, yes, you are mischaracterizing in this thread. As is the norm for you.
 
Cal - you would have to start repealing a bunch of amendments to even try to get the states some of the power that they have relinquished over the years... that isn't going to happen - the Feds aren't going to take any action that diminishes their power... The amendments are part of the constitution, and the Supreme court is required to uphold them equally..

Actually, most of the usurping of states powers and ignoring of states rights DOES NOT come from amendments. The proposed amendment in the article actually alludes to a lot of the abuses. Maybe that is why you are working to confuse this issue now...
 

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