To those that think there Mark is good in snow...

I am saying that with out the T-Lok installed, I used the Traction control in my car and it climbed the hills of roxborough pretty good no real slip, I'm also not saying they are sheets of ICE either. but with the upgraded Trans in my 96, I can hear the traction control engage and feel the car grab traction better, when I turned it off the wheels would just spin out of control Seemed to me that the TC is better to use.

Ah.
In my scenario it was pretty much do a u-turn in the middle of the hill and go find another way up. Wasn't making it up either way ;)
 
Wow lol that is not much of a hill.

What are you using for tires?

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like this


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When I lived in NY I made a hotwater manifold for my driveway out of PVC pipe and a garden hose, could hook it to the drain on my water heater. I just laid it out at night and opened the drain, this would melt all the snow and ice from my drive, then lay it over the mounds on the sides to melt those, we had free electricity and water so I didn't care :) I never had to use salt or my snow blower that much. The trick is to make the drain near the street

LOL

I would like to see this work when it -25 :p
 
Wait, you're telling me a Mark VIII can make it up a snow coated hill without a trac-lok?

My mark (and every mark viii I've owned, none with a trac-lok so far) has struggled with even the slightest of hills here in Milwaukee.

What happens to me is that stupid traction control will come on, stop the wheels, which usually just ends up letting the car slide back down the hill somewhat (and nearly cause an accident), which at that point I'll turn the retarded traction off and then you go no where, and at this point it's back down the hill I go.

Here is a pic of one of said hills: http://tinyurl.com/66qsx59 (tinyurl'd for your viewing pleasure)

Open differential in winter? What a joke.

Really you loose traction on that??? thats level as far as I can tell.
Here is a small hill in roxborough.
http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=40.0...=b-UOpI3hsAV7MJmWTvWcYA&cbp=12,351.18,,0,0.68

Here is the infamous Green Lane where they hold the bike races in Philly.
http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=40.0...=KupCWFuclUYBptrcQNQbkQ&cbp=12,17.69,,0,16.87
 
Yeah get up @12.30am this morning and see a big plow truck stuck in front of my house :eek:

Hear the air brake going all last night so I decide to get outta bed to see what the hell is going on cause I live on a dead end. See a big dump truck spinning tires trying to rock it outta where it plowed itself into. A smaller truck plowed around him so he could get out but he never came back.

Next morning the small plow came back but couldn't move the big stuff so he is coming back with a front end loader later. This is what I am stuck with for a Mark VIII to deal with and I DO have some decent M&S tires on the rear so I don't wanna her any of the I can drive fine in my Mark BS :mad:
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The piles are bigger than my damn car!
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Selling the popup by anychance? lol

Bill
 
In colorado there are certain cars we look out for when it snows... like your Marks (or any Marks really), Mustangs, old tbirds and Cougars, 2WD trucks....

And then we never, ever get behind them ;)
 
dont know why you are having such problems
driving in the snow. I drove right out of this a couple
weeks ago no shoveling and dragging bottom all the way.
I had no problems well i rocked it back and forth
2 times.

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Sorry, spending my whole driving life in Hawaii and Texas I am sure snow would throw me for a loop. I want the most traction all the time. If I lived up North and only had one car it wouldnt be a Mark. I would have a S4 or Evo or STi or Legacy GT or AWD Fuzion or SHO or 300C AWD or MKZ AWD or MKS AWD ..... something along those lines and a set of winter tires on their own wheels. If not that then I just simply would stay in the house till the snow melted. :lol:
 
We got about 4 inches of snow a couple of weeks ago. I drove my 4x4 Exploder most of the time. But my wife drove her '97 LSC and said she didn't have any problems. I drove it a couple of times and it got around pretty well in the snow. The traction control was a big help. Had I turned it off, I probably would have gotten mired up. The funniest thing about the snow was that I used my Explorer to pull an '09 Honda Pilot out of a snow covered ditch:D So much for the wonders of wrong-wheel-drive (even with front-biased AWD):)
 
Where it's flat, my mark does ok. Where there's hills? Yeah. Right. So, I move to Kansas city, buy a house, and neglect to see that it is uphill at all the intersections that lead out of my neighborhood. I am at the absolute lowest point. When we had our "hooters in the snow" meet last year the wife and I had to leave our two in the driveway at home. And I had brand new michelins on the car at the time. So, I take pride in the fact that my 94 and the wives 95 haven't seen the streets since they sprayed the first coating of salt.

Salt. It's only good on food.
 
Where it's flat, my mark does ok. Where there's hills? Yeah. Right. So, I move to Kansas city, buy a house, and neglect to see that it is uphill at all the intersections that lead out of my neighborhood. I am at the absolute lowest point. When we had our "hooters in the snow" meet last year the wife and I had to leave our two in the driveway at home. And I had brand new michelins on the car at the time. So, I take pride in the fact that my 94 and the wives 95 haven't seen the streets since they sprayed the first coating of salt.

Salt. It's only good on food.

Amazingly both my Marks are daily drivers here in NJ one of the salt states it would seem? The one I sold with 209k on it had no rust and the second gen has none whatsoever?

Wish I could say that about all the used cars I had :(
 
Speaking of salt...my '94 Explorer was originally sold and spent most of its life in Pennsylvania. When I bought it in '08, it only had 115K miles on it, but the chassis was completely covered in rust. Not rust-through, but a lot of surface rust. It took a while, but I wire brushed the entire chassis, painted it, and undercoated it. Salt is baaaaaaad.
 
Wheels on backwards. If the rotation of the tire is also wrong, it can affect snow drivability greatly.

I have to agree ... wheels on the right direction and that car is out of there ...:D

But I don't care what you drive being plowed in that deep of snow your not going anywhere .... but in normal winter conditions around here my Marks have driven fine in the snow. Only once on unplowed road did I ever have troubles and that was going up a steep hill.
 
Selling the popup by anychance? lol

Bill

Actually the Popup and the Airstream are both going up for sale but they are not mine. Popup has a crapper in it even but it all depends on what my father who owns them feels like doing come springtime?
 
Wow looking at all that snow makes me happy that we have 110 degree summers in AZ. Dont know how you guys do it. The other day I got into my Mark to go to work around 2 am and the outside temp was 27 it was a bone piercing dry cold. Once again dont know how you guys do it with the snow.
 
Wow looking at all that snow makes me happy that we have 110 degree summers in AZ. Dont know how you guys do it. The other day I got into my Mark to go to work around 2 am and the outside temp was 27 it was a bone piercing dry cold. Once again dont know how you guys do it with the snow.

I was just gonna say I have been out there and it was damn cold.

Heck I came out of a casino in Vegas one morning and slipped on some ice! So much for staying hot in December there :p
 
Wow looking at all that snow makes me happy that we have 110 degree summers in AZ. Dont know how you guys do it. The other day I got into my Mark to go to work around 2 am and the outside temp was 27 it was a bone piercing dry cold. Once again dont know how you guys do it with the snow.

I'll take -20 or colder over the 110 degree days anytime ...

Also we have less cold days than you in AZ have those hot days.
 
I'll take -20 or colder over the 110 degree days anytime ...

Also we have less cold days than you in AZ have those hot days.

Heck I spent a day in Death Valley in 116 degree heat. Actually wasn't that bad, ya just gotta remember to keep drinking water.
 

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