Took my LS to the dealership...

[mergner26]

I would really research your warranty, and do a little more arguing. I think most (well at least mine), will cover the motor, that includes all seals. Read very carefully.

My question is, If read this post right they replaced the valve covers???

Hope you can get it all sorted out.

the warranty i have is one from the acura dealer where i bought the car. it was a misprint in the paper but they gave it to us anyway. i know under the parts covered, it says that the valve covers are under warranty only if one of the other covered parts failed. the gaskets and sealed are covered only on the other parts that are covered under the warranty. the whole thing is worded (sp?) very confusing which is obviously done like that on purpose.

and yeah, they said they were going to replace them and that they didn't have them in stock.

at this point i'm stuck. i need the car back as soon as possible and i already talked to my parents and they said the same thing about just let them fix it and get it over with.

Back on topic, $1800 seems a bit excessive, however I would ask for a cost breakdown of labor and parts. If the labor is that excessive, find a local mechanic that won't charge as much hourly.

i'm going to try even though its too late now. I need the car as soon as possible with school and i was in the middle of looking at a college when we got the phone call. At this point i'm stuck paying the price, but at least i should be getting a car that is running much better and the satisfaction of knowing that if they screwed it up then they'll have to fix it. And i want to start getting into cars for times like this, but i just don't feel this is the right time to start. i would much rather help out a friend a few times who knows what he's doing just so i can get some basic knowledge before i start working on a car by myself.

 

[LuxurySportCoupe]

Heh, another flamer who probalby wouldnt of as so much as bothered to open this thread otherwise. Who did i attack? Dude that started the thread? Hell no smacked ass. All i said was quit giving excuses and dont be afraid to get your hands dirty, gave an example that age has no consideration on jack. I gave him advice, fine truthful advice. Made a snide comment bout mommy and daddy...and guess what, i was correct in that judgemental statement. Imagine that.

The rest of you have jumped on my balls and keep getting on the bandwagon. Thats cool, i find it entertaining..please keep the comments coming as its keeping me occupied for the moment. The intelligent ones realize i am just joking, harmless fun....but the others need a life...you are getting way to worked up.

Continue.

 

[eeprete]

LSC, let's revisit your first response....

"Thats insane. If you WONT get your hands dirty, my advice is take it to the dealer so they can rape you for every cent you have."

You opened up a can of worms with your first response. That's a joke giving someone advice on "getting raped for every cent" ?? Good thing you don't work at the Tropicana telling jokes or you'd be picking up nickels on the AC boardwalk.

Let's be realistic, sounds like there's a bit of jealousy in your tone that mommy and daddy didn't buy you an LS, let alone a 20 yr old LSC.... Go back to listening to your Bon Jovi rolling in your 80's wheels.

This guy is in Ocean County, I'd think a fellow Jersey boy would cut him some slack and want to offer a real helping hand.

 

[mergner26]

yeah maybe its a joke and all fun for you, but all this has turned into is everybody fighting. i was looking for help and suggestions, not to have someone start talking crap and get everyone fighting. so can u please do me a favor LuxurySportCoupe and if you have anything helpful to say go ahead, but otherwise just stop all of the other crap going on. remember I AM the one who has to come up with all of this money to fix my car and I should be the one all pissed off, not you

 

[eeprete]

the warranty i have is one from the acura dealer where i bought the car. it was a misprint in the paper but they gave it to us anyway. i know under the parts covered, it says that the valve covers are under warranty only if one of the other covered parts failed. the gaskets and sealed are covered only on the other parts that are covered under the warranty. the whole thing is worded (sp?) very confusing which is obviously done like that on purpose.

and yeah, they said they were going to replace them and that they didn't have them in stock.

at this point i'm stuck. i need the car back as soon as possible and i already talked to my parents and they said the same thing about just let them fix it and get it over with.



i'm going to try even though its too late now. I need the car as soon as possible with school and i was in the middle of looking at a college when we got the phone call. At this point i'm stuck paying the price, but at least i should be getting a car that is running much better and the satisfaction of knowing that if they screwed it up then they'll have to fix it. And i want to start getting into cars for times like this, but i just don't feel this is the right time to start. i would much rather help out a friend a few times who knows what he's doing just so i can get some basic knowledge before i start working on a car by myself.

I'd agree, let them take care of it, and lesson learned. As for getting into working on cars yourself, it CAN be a good thing IF you plan in sticking with a car for a long time (or a similar line of cars). I've been working on Fox body Mustangs (1979-1993) since the late 80's and still have one I drive daily (and about the only time it lets me down is in deep snow).

Actually the 87-93 5.0 cars are some of the most dependable (and affordable to fix) cars available used. It's often easier said than done, though as many of today's cars require specialized tool and diagnostics equipment. The automobile on the overall has become less of a mechanical device and more of a computer/electronic device. But you can save yourself considerable money should you be willing to learn about it, and be willing to turn a wrench.

 

[hockey930]

Mergner26 you bring up a good point, he is just here looking for some help. The sugestion for him to do it himself is a great one, however he didn't come here to start a fight by any means. So I leave this thread because it is getting rediculace with,fIf you need some help there are plenty of people here that are willing to do so. If the dealer takes you for a ride this time, oh well you learned a lesson and can attack the next problem yourself. good luck
Eamonn

 

[Mooby]

The only thing i have more of a resentment towards are all the young people that live around my area. Mommy and daddy buy them beamers and benz's, so they crash them, kill thier friends, and get escalades and porsches next, dont believe me? Drive through Medford, New jersey, you'll see. That is completely ILLOGICAL and IRRESPONSIBLE to me, maybe its just the way i was brought up. I was taught to work for things and appreciate them. Luckily, i am very thankful for that. There is nothing i am missing out on in my life at the momment....well maybe a 700hp motor in the mark vii, just gotta be patient...searching for a 351w efi block as we speak.


Yea, i didnt notice that at first as i didnt really care to know. Once i saw it. i felt bad for a second. I have 3 younger friends, all members to this site, all in jersey, all with modded lincolns. On a realistic level all i can say is it doesnt surprise me. I was born here, raised in PA, spent 2 yrs in the south, came back to Jersey, it sucks, most of the people are democrats and dumb as hell as a group, they all suck....and why is it no one can drive? Buncha rude a$$holes. Although...Maybe thats why i can tolerate it.

I'm gonna have to agree with some of that above statement. I go to high school in Medford, NJ and literally, less than 5% of the kids in my school bought their own cars. Honestly, coming from an area like this, it gets kind of annoying since I had to work my ass off at a gas station to save up for my car, so I can see where he's coming from. The only thing I disagree with is the Democrat statement. Dude, Medford is filled with Republicans, it's one of the few areas in NJ that votes consistently votes Republic. But yeah, it sucks seeing these kids who just got their license driving S2000's, BMW's, Mercedes', or any brand new car to school every day.

 

[Midas78]

Hey Human Torch - are you new here? Please read:

http://www.lincolnvscadillac.com/showthread.php?t=233

*owned*

 

[Joeychgo]

Ok guys - lets all calm down. If you cant be respectful to other members, then please go to another forum.


:admin

 

[steagle]

it gets kind of annoying since I had to work my ass off at a gas station to save up for my car

why is that annoying? if you got the car you wanted in the end, you should be happy you gained valuable experience along the way. the cheerleader who gets a BMW convertible on her 16th birthday from her international banking father is a bit annoying i admit, just for the pure excessive factor, but bottom line is who cares how people got their cars, you are the beter person for going thru crap to get what they may not appreciate as much.

But yeah, it sucks seeing these kids who just got their license driving S2000's, BMW's, Mercedes', or any brand new car to school every day.

well now that sounds a little jealous... it really shouldn't matter to you who has what and how or why. its funny how life works out, that person may end up your secretary one day. i know you're still in high school but trust me, those sorts of things become less important as time goes on. you just learn to live with it and hopefully it provides some inspiration to prove them wrong...

 

[mrzeee]

parts

I dropped it (2001 LS V8) off at 9 on saturday morning, and just got the call this afternoon. They said the valve covers, 2 coils, and the o2 sensor all need to be replaced. They said it would be around $1800 but hopefully some of it will be covered in the warranty. Does that price sound right though? Also, how long do u think it will take once they get the permission to do it?

I have reposted this reply here.

Hi
The v/c gasket set is 41.00 per side list and LVC cost would be 31.00 each side ( complete set, gasket and o rings) the coils are 100.00 each and LVC cost is 58.50 each ( the boots are included with the coil) . When the o rings fail and the boots get full of oil the coils start to short out and fail themselves. The O2 sensors (front ones) are 111.00 each and LVC cost would be 64.94 each. The rear O2 sensors (catalyst monitors) are 94.00 each and cost LVC 54.99 each.
The chance that all the O2's are bad is slim to none. A bad one would set a code. If you buy the parts and have a friend help you can save a ton of cash, if not then knowing the prices can maybe help you work a deal for a parts price discount.
Contarary to popular belief all of the parts guys are not as advertised, thieves, some of us like our jobs and try to help
Good Luck!!

Max Zuckerberg
Five Star Ford
Scottsdale Arizona
Certified Ford Parts Specialist
Direct 1-800-866-1520 ext 236
Fax 1-480-949-8478
parts@fivestarford.com
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[2001LS8Sport]

I have reposted this reply here.

Hi
The v/c gasket set is 41.00 per side list and LVC cost would be 31.00 each side ( complete set, gasket and o rings) the coils are 100.00 each and LVC cost is 58.50 each ( the boots are included with the coil) . When the o rings fail and the boots get full of oil the coils start to short out and fail themselves. The O2 sensors (front ones) are 111.00 each and LVC cost would be 64.94 each. The rear O2 sensors (catalyst monitors) are 94.00 each and cost LVC 54.99 each.
The chance that all the O2's are bad is slim to none. A bad one would set a code. If you buy the parts and have a friend help you can save a ton of cash, if not then knowing the prices can maybe help you work a deal for a parts price discount.
Contarary to popular belief all of the parts guys are not as advertised, thieves, some of us like our jobs and try to help
Good Luck!!

Max Zuckerberg
Five Star Ford
Scottsdale Arizona
Certified Ford Parts Specialist
Direct 1-800-866-1520 ext 236
Fax 1-480-949-8478
parts@fivestarford.com
__________________
Five Star Rep Max

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