Twin remote Turbo.....

Its an interesting concept. On the Crown Vic board I'm a member of a guy got a quote on the universal kit of $3125. And you have to fab up whatever they dont provide. So it could get pricey.
 
I saw a new Mustang with one simliar I think it was like $8 grand when he was done. He said it made a big difference - like 50% more HP and 80% more torque.
 
Surely this would increase the turbo-lag.
 
With respect, the do suffer from lag. Maybe not as much as an old thrust bearing turbo, but the new ball bearing turbos do suffer a lag.

Now, you take a new turbo, and you hook it up 12 feet away from the engine, it will suffer from turbo lag.

Sure, you can get a tiny turbo, and have it not suffer as much lag. But then you start choking that turbo at 4000rpm.

That's why I said you have to find the RIGHT A/R sized turbo.
 
buddylee said:
newer turbo's don't suffer from lag


all turbos suffer from lag. If turbos had no problems, superchargers would be obsolete.
 
I will say, they are getting some nice dyno numbers from that thing. But a 12.6 1/4 on the 05 Mustang when they run 13.5 stock does not impress me for $7500 upgrade. You could do much better, looking at it that way.
 
A good performance turbo (like the Garrett GT series, ball bearing or not) that is sized with the appropriate turbine and compressor wheels and housings will suffer from very little lag. There will certainly be slightly more lag with a rear-mount kit like STS, however, you must remember that once the exhaust pipes are filled with exhaust, it will STILL spool the turbo in a reasonable amount of time. The GTO guys have been having tremendous success with these rear-mount kits.

Granted I personally would never run a turbo kit that requires sump-pumps for oil supply, but that's my personal preference. The idea is still sound, and offers up options for those folks with limited engine bay landscape to work - like Mark VIII owners for example. :D

My 98 LSC put down 228rwhp/227rwtq on the dyno here in Phoenix bone stock. I would imagine that ~15psi (1 bar) would put the car above the 400rwhp mark, for as long as the cracked-cap connecting rods decided they wanted to hold it.

Paul.
 
You don't need sump pumps.

Get yourself a Shurflo 12 V DC pump that can handle hot liquids. Hook it up to your turbo timer with a relay, and vioala! no need for a sump pump.

Scavenging pumps have been used very successfully in airplanes where the turbo(s) are sometimes mounted under the engine for years.

Hell, even Callaway uses scavenging pumps on their turbocharged vettes.

Edit: Christ on a cracker, I can't type tonight...
 
That is still just way too much money for a 12.6 in a 05 mustang for $7500 and that is just for the t-turbo??? Would be worse for a mark due to weight and other upgrades....to make it work on one. My fox body ran 11's, 12's on street tires and I paid $9000 for it with 56k miles (and all hypo'd up with fresh 306, vortech s-trim, suspension, locker, tremec, etc). Buy em on ebay all day long. Or even a Grand National/T-Type. Just too much money to go fast in these Marks for me personally. Would rather just keep it as a luxury daily and have a seperate car for racing around. But that is just me.
 
Only turbo car that I've driven that was any good was 87 T-bird , Hell one of my work trucks was a turbo and I never knew it .
 
cummins 4 banger , diesel so loud I never heard the whine.


as for my statment about no more lag... On the show Trucks a gey from banks turbos was on , He said something about with new turbos thier was almost no turbo lag
Then again he was on TV and he's try`n to sell his stuff.

frogman you are a class act "with all due respect" , Yet I post about getting a bra for my wifes car and I get some random fool posting about me were womans underwere ......... the range of ppl here is truly wide.
 
mhinchley said:
That is still just way too much money for a 12.6 in a 05 mustang for $7500 and that is just for the t-turbo???

That's because '05 Mustangs are stupid pieces of sh*t, there computers are a nightmare to work with, the anti-slip tables in the computer make launching the dang things REALLY hard, and they're pigs - weighing in what a luxury car should weigh, not a pony car.

Paul.
 
just my oppinion, but why would anyone use this thing? what is wrong with a real turbo system that runs off of the headers? you would think that this would have trememdous lag and look at the piping, it runs under the rear axle?? better off running a super charger or traditional turbo system. I surely wouldn't use that thing.
 
Frogman said:
In the Mark VIII's, there is no room in the engine compartment for turbos. This is a viable option, since.. well... since NO ONE makes a supercharger kit for the mark VIII's yet.

I thought the 98 Cobra S-trim kit would bolt up with some modifications?
 
Frogman said:
Im sure it would, as would an autorotor, or even turbos. But you sir said it... "with some modifications"

Wasn't there an LvC member who had installed a vortech on his mark?

Let me clarify, when I mentioned "some modifications" I understood it to be nothing particularly challenging. However, I don't really know since I'm a Mustang guy, not a Lincoln guy, and my expertise is lacking.

Paul.
 
99 cobra s-trim kit is a direct bolt on for any 2nd gen mark viii. It's no secret.
96-98 kits work as well but require a 96-98 cobra intake or 99 cobra vortech piping to match up with the TB.

But what's with the hate on the 05 ? My tuner has no issues with the tuning of the new 05-06 GTs.
 

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