Water pump...

MrWilson

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I took off the water pump to replace it, and it appears that it is fully functional. I replaced the t-stat, and now the water pump. I squeezed the tubes, and fluid came out of the water pump recess, so i dont think theres a blockage in there. When i install the new pump ill see if im still over heating, but if i do...what the heck is the problem?!
 
Did you install the t-stat correctly? Is your fan working? What percentage coolant/water do you run?
 
After you replace the t-stat and water pump, let's see what it does before guessing at causes...

I ended up replacing the hoses, t-stat, pump, belt, and the radiator and I was sitll running a little warm. I just had to burp it a few more times. Needless to say, it runs quite cool now.
 
Nope, still gettin problems. I replaced the t-stat, correctly, and replaced the water pump, correctly (dont know how you could do that incorrectly) No leaks, but im still overheating. there must be some flow in there, cuz it floats arround the very top of the N when im just crusin, but when i came to a stop, and when i accelerated it went almost to the red, but then when i got up to 40 it came back down to the top of the N (btw, just went for 2 mi after it started to warm. but there is still no pressure in the radiator lines. It must be clogged or somethin, but its not from the water pump forward. I dont know what to make of it.

the fan is working, and i used 2 lieters of water, and the rest was antifreeze
 
Have you burped the system a few times?
It took about three cycles to get all the air out of my system.
 
Calabrio said:
Have you burped the system a few times?
It took about three cycles to get all the air out of my system.


flushed it ya mean?
 
No, I mean remove the air bubbles.

Running it with the cross over tube open, filling it as you see the level dropping.
Otherwise you'll have pockets of air inside your cooling system.

I would run the engine with the center tube open for about ten minutes, filling it as needed, then seal it up and drive it for 15 minutes. Park the car and let it completely cool off. Then do the process again two more times.

After I did this, my car stopped jumping up to the letter O, and now it's staying around that A, peaking on occassion at the M when I'm stuck in traffic.
 
Calabrio said:
Running it with the cross over tube open, filling it as you see the level dropping...


The tube infront of the alternator?

Calabrio said:
I would run the engine with the center tube open for about ten minutes, filling it as needed...

One of the tubes comming from the radiator?
 
Despite using the multiple wrong terms, I'm only refering to that cross-over tube that runs infront of the alternator, the one with the metal cap.
 
Calabrio said:
Despite using the multiple wrong terms, I'm only refering to that cross-over tube that runs infront of the alternator, the one with the metal cap.

k ill try that.
 
But even before i started tinkering with the cooling system, there was a problem, that obviously wasnt air in the system, so its gonna be something other than that.
 
MrWilson said:
But even before i started tinkering with the cooling system, there was a problem, that obviously wasnt air in the system, so its gonna be something other than that.
Man, you are a hard headed soul.

You claim to have had a 'low coolant' level signal for months now. So maybe, just maybe, you ran the coolant out of the reservoir to the point where you pulled 'air' into the system. Go see a Lincoln mechanic and maybe he will tell you out of the goodness of his heart how to 'burb' the system correctly, although, I will admit, many of them do not even know how to.

For the last time, disconnect the cap (use a 1/4 drive with no socket attached) that is located just behind the alternator (on top of it in the back). That is where the coolant goes. NOT the overflow bucket. Run the engine and fill until the reservoir shows full. Stop filling. Put the cap back on the overflow bucket. Go back to filling the crossover tube located on top of the alternator until it is full full. Put the cap on and go drive around. Let the system cool down and take off the cap and do it again.

If this doesn't work, you have a bad radiator, bad fan, or your burning coolant which means you probably have a head gasket leak.
 
radie842 said:
Why would air in the coolin system make the car overheat?
The air pocket moves thru the cooling system and winds up in front of the thermostat. Then it sits there acting like an insulator thus preventing the thermostat from 'reading' the actual temp and therefore stays closed. The rest of the coolant then overheats as it is no longer making the rounds.
 
...oh yeah- don't forget to run your heater while your burping the system too...
 
Although it is good practice to put coolant through the coolant crossover cap, it isn't really needed. Just run the car with the heat on and keep adding coolant to the overflow bottle. Drive it around the block a couple times and go WOT at least a couple times. If temp gets too hot park the car and let it cool down a bit and then repeat the process. This is where an electric fan toggle switch comes in handy.
 
MonsterMark said:
Man, you are a hard headed soul.

You claim to have had a 'low coolant' level signal for months now. So maybe, just maybe, you ran the coolant out of the reservoir to the point where you pulled 'air' into the system. Go see a Lincoln mechanic and maybe he will tell you out of the goodness of his heart how to 'burb' the system correctly, although, I will admit, many of them do not even know how to.

For the last time, disconnect the cap (use a 1/4 drive with no socket attached) that is located just behind the alternator (on top of it in the back). That is where the coolant goes. NOT the overflow bucket. Run the engine and fill until the reservoir shows full. Stop filling. Put the cap back on the overflow bucket. Go back to filling the crossover tube located on top of the alternator until it is full full. Put the cap on and go drive around. Let the system cool down and take off the cap and do it again.

If this doesn't work, you have a bad radiator, bad fan, or your burning coolant which means you probably have a head gasket leak.

yes, i completly understand what you are saying, but im saying i never had low coolant. its always been full, so i dont understand how it could have gotten in. I will try that today, but i dont expect anything.
 
MrWilson:


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yes, i completly understand what you are saying, but im saying i never had low coolant. its always been full, so i dont understand how it could have gotten in. I will try that today, but i dont expect anything.
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ok.. on 11-27 you also posted this....

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K, so iv been gettin this Low coolant level on the msg display for...about 5 months (of driving) and just a few min ago, on my way home i ran high into the red line on the temp and i got the check engine temp on the display, i slammed on the breaks and turned off the car (dont want to blow a gasket) and i go look to see if a hose or somethin slipped off, but nothin. The coolant resovuar had coolant dripping down the sides from arround the cap. and there was a big ol puddle of coolant on the road where i was sittin. It went back down to N and i got back in and drove the 1/4 mi home, and it went back to red and check engine temp or w/e came on when i pulled into the driveway. Im guessing my water pump died? anyone? Please help.
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As much as I don't like to cause flames.. make up your mind!!! Did you have a low coolant warning for 5 months or not!

There are lots of good people here who will gladly help you, if you just help us and yourself a little bit by giving us all info, and not changing it on the fly.

Now, if your positive that the coolant was full all the time, just a 'false' warning, that would have been nice to know.
 
MichiganTeddyBear said:
MrWilson:




Now, if your positive that the coolant was full all the time, just a 'false' warning, that would have been nice to know.

yes, it was a false warning.

I went to go do that burp thing today, and i couldnt get the cap off for the life of me. I broke the wrench tryin to do it. Any trick im missin?
 
It's seized on there, mine was a bitch to get off the first time although I was able to get it loose with the 1/4 drive ratchet, you may need a pair of vice grips to get it off. try some penetrating oil too.
 
JC1994 said:
It's seized on there, mine was a bitch to get off the first time although I was able to get it loose with the 1/4 drive ratchet, you may need a pair of vice grips to get it off. try some penetrating oil too.


like, ky jelly? lol. K thanks for the tips. I figgured there mighta been some clip that i needed to remove or somethin.
 

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