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Went out to grab some movies. Come home all happy scored 2 good movies. Pull in and see branch on Red Dragon. Oh no. Find this. Nice. NOT.
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Couple hours later
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Man those suckers are glued in real good. Tip hot puddy knife will get thru it faster.
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I don't have a spare. I let the blue Gen2 go to yard with all windows in it. Are gen1 and gen2 rear windows the same?
 
ouch!
and yeah. i believe a gen 2 window will fit. only difference is the gen 2 window has that built in radio antenna.
 
This is exactly how I got a new rear window..insurance paid 100% of it, over $800 for factory ford window, retinted and installed..also helped that I had zero deductible on my comprehensive.
 
keVIIIn said:
This is exactly how I got a new rear window..insurance paid 100% of it, over $800 for factory ford window, retinted and installed..also helped that I had zero deductible on my comprehensive.
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I took ins off red and put it on Ice. Will be a junkyard back window or lexan.
 
Damn that sucks..shame, that back window seal looked perfect too..may have to hunt thru junkyards for a while to find one with a nice seal..how would lexan work on that curved back window..or should I say how would they form it and make it seal properly?

Btw I HATE trees and refuse to park under one..this gives me even more of a reason not to.
 
keVIIIn said:
Damn that sucks..shame, that back window seal looked perfect too..may have to hunt thru junkyards for a while to find one with a nice seal..how would lexan work on that curved back window..or should I say how would they form it and make it seal properly?
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Red has kinda became my racer. The lexan would be screwed down if used. Just got off phone with local bone yard 100 for used back glass.
 
Right on the mark - Probably a stupid suggestion, but have you considered removing the broken pieces of glass (callyed oysters in my trade) from the gasket and try re-using or selling it? i saw a guy on e-bay doing this on broken back windows with good rubber and he was charging upwards of 100$ lol. if you were to remove the gasket from the window, leave the current window mounted in another persons car and go to install it all (I THINK) you would have to do is trim off their old gasket and run some silicone or polyurethane to adhere it to a new window, i think silicone would work better though, ive glazed enough windows to know poly is a bit more messy. Just a thought.
 
Travisg32v said:
Right on the mark - Probably a stupid suggestion, but have you considered removing the broken pieces of glass (callyed oysters in my trade) from the gasket and try re-using or selling it? i saw a guy on e-bay doing this on broken back windows with good rubber and he was charging upwards of 100$ lol. if you were to remove the gasket from the window, leave the current window mounted in another persons car and go to install it all (I THINK) you would have to do is trim off their old gasket and run some silicone or polyurethane to adhere it to a new window, i think silicone would work better though, ive glazed enough windows to know poly is a bit more messy. Just a thought.
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The back window moulding from broken window was 100% mint, I was pissed. I made sure I got it out without damaging it. There would be NO WAY to just install this into other car without removing back glass. Even first to reuse gasket I would have to get all the black window mount silicone? off it. Holy smokes that will be alot of work. I'm going to have to do that to the JY one thou. All that holds window in is the black silicone. So its glued in good!! I really would like to put this gasket in ICE she needs it.
 
mine needs a gasket so bad it literally split in half vertically in the center of the gasket on the left and right hand sides in about 2" spots, ive literally never seen one as bad as mine i dont think :/ its really the only **** point of my car besides a few dents. I thought i saw a thread where someone made a molding from auto zone and cut off the "lasagna" and adhered it to their black glass while it was still in the car, i know the molding is physically made in 1 piece with the glass but theoretically could the gasket (after being cleaned well) be adhered to the back glass if it was laid down flat and liberal amounts of silicone were applied? i would think for sure that would work and have seen similair things done, but marks are always different. please let me know
 
Travisg32v said:
mine needs a gasket so bad it literally split in half vertically in the center of the gasket on the left and right hand sides in about 2" spots, ive literally never seen one as bad as mine i dont think :/ its really the only **** point of my car besides a few dents. I thought i saw a thread where someone made a molding from auto zone and cut off the "lasagna" and adhered it to their black glass while it was still in the car, i know the molding is physically made in 1 piece with the glass but theoretically could the gasket (after being cleaned well) be adhered to the back glass if it was laid down flat and liberal amounts of silicone were applied? i would think for sure that would work and have seen similair things done, but marks are always different. please let me know
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I would LOVE to know this. I have bad gasket on Ice , I have a mint gasket out. I would like to get the mint gasket on Ice.
 
Right on the Mark said:
I would LOVE to know this. I have bad gasket on Ice , I have a mint gasket out. I would like to get the mint gasket on Ice.
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I wish I had taken pictures of mine when they removed old window and put the new one in, I was watching like a hawk when he was doing it..the old timer removing old window had to slice the seal off to get the window out easily and he had some shakey hands..i was praying his razor blade didn't slip...but anyways I was looking at the new window before it went in, and the rubber seal isn't just glued to the outside of the window, it appears like the seal has a small channel to it so it almost "wraps" around the edge of the window slightly. So it would be nearly impossible to put another seal on a window without cutting it somehow, unless you just cut the very outside of the seal (the visible part of the seal) and glue it to the window. Seems like too much work, I'd just find a decent junkyard window that isn't all dry rotted..so be it if it has some ripple, just fix it with the door edge trim kit..similar to what supercoupe performance sells.
 
Right on the Mark said:
I don't know if you remember the other tree did this to my LS months ago.
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See, if you would have cut that one down first the one that took out your mark would have too afraid.

You need to do some tree trimming before you doing any more car work, looks like those things are costing you too much money.
 
KeVIIIn - AWESOME THEN!!! if there is a channel then fill it partially with the silicone and then apply silicone to the underside with the gasket and it WILL hold, especially if you use something strong like RTV silicone, i honestly have never seen a completle mark viii rear window de-glazed from a mark before but i can guarantee you it will work, if your a clean worker and you want the ULTIMATE in adhesion i would look into a product we use called Mirror Mastic , it is essentially a black puddyish tar, but if you use a caulking tool (or butter knife) and tape around the area your doing this with as long as none got anywhere it shouldnt (i.e paint, rear window, etc. ) it SHOULD work, we literally use this stuff to put up mirrored walls with, all we do is dab it in a few round spots and i promise you if you go up to that mirrored wall after the mastic sets and tryo to pull it off that **** isnt going anywhere, i dont care how strong you are, the only way to even remove it after the mastic sets is to carefully pry it off , or Break it (which is what usually happens) either way mastic or not (messiest stuff ever) the silicone should work great, you wouldnt believe how many things ive "fixed" with silicone haha
 
No way you're getting the seal off to reuse on another window.
I had a hell of a time getting the seal off my window.
 
DO NOT use silicone to hold in glass. it's not strong or firm enough to hold the glass in without leaking and once it's dry it's imposable to completely remove.
you need to use windshield urethane. it's available at your local body shop supply store.
this is the black stuff the factory uses to glue in the glass.

if you aren't experienced in installing glass you should call someone experienced with the proper tools and supplies to do the job correctly. most urethane needs a special primer on both the glass and the pinch weld where it's installed on. honestly glass labor is extremely inexpensive compared to mechanical labor.
the molding around the glass has channel with glue on one side of it to bond to the glass. someone experienced with glass can re-use a old molding.
and yes i know what i am talking about. i have worked in a body shop for over 30 years. the body shop i work at gets at least 2 auto fixed glass R&I or replaced a week. i have watched hundreds of fixed glass being replaced and i still wouldn't do it myself.

how far from milwaukee wi are you? i have a back glass i will be cutting out of a first gen mark on saturday i could give it to you for a 12 pack of beer if i don't sell my parts car by friday.
 
LOL dude I don't know WHO told you that silicone wont hold in glass but I literally prove that statement wrong every single day of my life,idk about auto glass but it works great on commercial storeronts designed to keep water out in Extreme weather situations, im not talking basic clear silicone you get at home depot, these are glazing grade sealants.. I install and bid commercial and residential storefronts, sliding glass doors, mirrors, mirrored walls, curtain walls, and hurricane impact storefront systems, so I think I KNOW what im talking about, I would suggest a down corning 995, if not research what other people are using to adhere gaskets in auto glass im sure theres many other alternatives I was just stating this would work... if not there are literally a dozen different products to use that are silicone OR polyurethane base that will get the job done, secondly I don't care what body shop you work at or how long you've been doing it because frankly that has nothing at all to do with glass work like the kind im referring to, maybe auto glass but when it comes to this I know what im talking about. I sell jobs with 1 5/16" insulated-impact glass w/ low-E in a Graylite #40 tint in hurricane impact frames, my main supplier I deal with is coral architectural products, do you know what any of that is?


Mark JA - I really don't know how it has been successfully removed but im telling you ive for sure without a doubt seen them for sale on e-bay multiple times removed for sale if you had a donor rear window like right on the mark does I think it could be done, BTW ive seen your build thread, some of the best work ive seen by far on this forum, so Im sure you would know over me but I think its possible.
 
there are significant differences between building construction and auto construction.
the biggest difference is in buildings you have something besides the silicone holding the glass in.
in a auto there isn't anything besides the urethane holding the glass in.
also your building doesn't drive over potholes and bumps bending and twisting a significant amount of times daily.
this is a reason why it really difficult to cut thru the stuff when you replace fixed glass on a car.
also why doesn't the factory use silicone when installing glass?

when installing auto glass the only thing you should use is windshield urethane.

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no, actually when you are installing glass there is literally about 15 different ways to GLAZE it with silicone, most as you said require something else to hold the glass in, usually called a Face Stop, also, i have installed many pieces of glass in old framing with just silicone
 
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