And Joey wonders why there is division in this country.

Normally I do side with the Conservatives just as I did with the recent Supreme Court debacle.

However, I hate the puppet GWB because he has fed us a pack of lies.

Owned, my ass.
 
thamarkman said:
Barry you're Great, Bush has absolutely no credibility with the American people, only those right wing wackos whos minds are clouded with lies.
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All 59,000,000 of us. Hahaha. Blowhard lefty whiners, all 54,000,000 of you.
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barry2952 said:
Normally I do side with the Conservatives just as I did with the recent Supreme Court debacle.
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Nothing like a liberal conservative. Talk about riding the fence. Oh boy.
 
Joey made the comment on another thread once that Bush had done, nada, zip, zilch.

Then I posted this. How much of this do you disagree with? Free free to highlight the ones you don't like in another color for clarity purposes.
President Bush proclaims National Child Abuse Prevention Month.
President Bush signs Medal of Valor Bill
President Bush sign Executive Order: Actions Concerning Regulations that Significantly Affect Energy Supply, Distribution, or Use.
President Bush signs tax cut billreducing Federal Income Tax Rates and sends a refund to millions of Americans
U.S. and Poland sign Open Skies Agreement
U.S. and Poland sign comprehensive trade package
President Bush signs Agriculture Supplemental Bill
Terrorist attack of September 11, 2001 over 3000 innocent Americans are killed.
President Bush signs Authorization for Use of Military Force Bill
President Bush signs Airline Transportation Bill to assure the safety and stability of the nation's commercial airlines
President Bush signs executive order freezing the assets of terrorist organizations
President Bush initiates military action in Afghanistan dismantling the Taliban regime and liberating 25 million people
President Bush signs Executive Order establishing Office of Homeland Security.
President Bush signs the Patriot Act.
President Bush signs Military Construction Appropriations Bill to improve quality of housing for military personnel.
President Bush signs National Emergency Construction Authority Executive Order
President Bush signs Interior Appropriations Bill.
President Bush signs Internet Access Taxation Moratorium so the growth of the Internet is not slowed by taxation.
President Bush signs Afghan Women and Children Relief Act.
President Bush grants permanent trade status to China
President Bush signs Defense Authorization Act - authorizing the funding necessary to defend the United States.
President Bush signs Intelligence Authorization Act authorizing appropriations to fund US intelligence, including activities essential to success in the war against global terrorism.
President Bush signs Landmark Education Bill
President Bush takes action to help restore Everglades
President Bush signs Brownfields Bill.
President Bush signs Terrorism Relief Act providing tax relief to families of those killed in the attacks on September the 11th, the anthrax attacks and the Oklahoma City bombing.
President Bush increases the budget for border security.
President Bush announces substantial increases in Homeland Security budget.
President Bush signs Executive Order establishing the USA Freedom Corps
President Bus signs Investor & Capital Markets Fee Relief Act.
President Bush announces clear skies & global climate change initiatives
President Bush increases funding for Bioterrorism by 319 Percent.
President Bush signs Job Creation and Worker Assistance Act of 2002
President Bush signs Campaign Finance Reform Act.
President Bush outlines U.S. plan to help world's poor- proposes $5 billion plan to help developing nations.
President Bush signs Farm Bill
President Bush signs Border Security and Visa Entry Reform Act.
President Bush and Russian President Putin Sign Nuclear Arms Treaty
President Bush commemorates one-year anniversary of tax relief
President Bush signs Public Health Security and Bioterrorism Bill
President Bush signs Export-Import Bank Act
President Bush promotes new mother and child HIV prevention initiative
President Bush signs Corporate Corruption Bill
President Bush signs Trade Act of 2002.
President Bush proclaims Women's Equality Day
President Bush signs Born-Alive Infants Protection Act.
President Bush signs executive order prescribing regulations relating to the safeguarding of vessels, harbors, ports, and waterfront facilities of the United States.
President Bush proclaims Patriot Day
President Bush addresses the United Nations General Assembly
President Bush sends Iraq Resolution to Congress.
President Bush acts to protect pensions and retirement security for all Americans.
President Bush, Chinese President Jiang Zemin discuss Iraq, N. Korea
President Bush signs historic election reform legislation into law- Help America Vote Act.
President Bush proclaims National Alzheimer's Disease Awareness Month
President Bush signs two bills improve health care. The first to increase the number of community health care centers and the second to provide faster access to safe and effective medical devices.
President Bush signs Pledge of Allegiance Bill reaffirming one Nation under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance, and "In God we trust" as the National Motto
President Bush proclaimsNational Family Week
President Bush welcomes Romania to NATO
President Bush signs Homeland Security Act
President Bush signs Terrorism Insurance Act
President Bush signs 911 Commission Bill
President Bush signs Executive Order: Equal Protection of the Laws for Faith-based and Community Organizations.
President signs National Defense Authorization Act.
President Bush signs E-Government Act.
President Bush signs Wetlands Conservation Act
President Bush proclaims Human Rights Day, Bill of Rights Day; Human Rights Week
President Bush implements key elements of his faith-based initiative
President Bush signs executive order: Blocking property of persons undermining Democratic processes in Zimbabwe
President Bush proclaims National Child Abuse Prevention Month
President Bush says Saddam Hussein must leave Iraq within 48 Hours
Operation Iraqi Freedom. President Bush initiates military with Iraq dismantling the Saddam Hussein regime and liberating 22 million people.
President Bush signs Protect Act- Amber Alert Bill expanding nationwide a rapid-response network to help find kidnapped children.
President Bush proclaims National Day of Prayer
President Bush signs U.S.-Singapore Free Trade Agreement
President Bush signs Jobs and Growth Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2003.
President Bush signs The United States Leadership Against HIV/AIDS, Tuberculosis, and Malaria Act of 2003.
President Bush signs executive order establishing the Bob Hope American Patriot Award.
President Bush signs executive order protecting the Development Fund for Iraq and other property in which Iraq has an interest
President Bush proclaimsNational Child's Day
President Bush and Russian President Putin sign Treaty of Moscow
President Bush meets with leaders of Jordan, Israel and Palestinian Authority
President Bush proclaims Flag Day and National Flag Week
President Bush proclaims June 2003 as National Homeownership Month
President Bush signs "Keeping Children Safe Act"
President Bush signs Welfare Reform Extension Act of 2003, which extends the Temporary Assistance for Needy Families block grant program and certain related programs.
President Bush names Randall Tobias to be Global AIDS Coordinator
Uday and Qusay Hussein are killed during raid in Iraq.
President Bush names Randall Tobias to be Global AIDS Coordinator
President Bush signs executive order blocking removal of Iraqi property from that country by the former Iraqi regime, its senior officials and their family members
President Bush proclaims Women's Equality Day
President Bush Promotes Healthy Forests in Arizona
President Bush signs Chile, Singapore Free Trade Agreement Bills
President Bush signs Prison Rape Elimination Act of 2003
President Bush, King Abdullah of Jordan meet at Camp David
President Bush signs Do Not Call Registry
President Bush proclaims Marriage Protection Week.
President Bush proclaims Child Health Day
President Bush signs Homeland Security Appropriations Bill
President Bush Signs Partial Birth Abortion Ban Act of 2003
President Bush proclaims November 2003 as National Adoption Month
President Bush Meets with Iraqi women leaders
President Bush Signs the Animal Drug User Fee Act of 2003
President Bush proclaims National Family Week
President Bush signs Military Construction Appropriations Act
President Bush signs the National Defense Authorization Act
President Bush meets with troops in Iraq on Thanksgiving
President Bush proclaims World AIDS Day
President Bush signs the Adoption Promotion Act of 2003
President Bush signs Nanotechnology Research and Development Act
President Bush signs Healthy Forest Restoration Act
President Bush signs Fair and Accurate Credit Transactions Act
President Bush signs Medicare Prescription Drug, Improvement and Modernization Act of 2003
Saddam Hussein is captured in Iraq
President Bush signs American Dream Downpayment Act of 2003
Libya pledges to dismantle WMD programs
President Bush Announces Formation of Independent Commission to look at American intelligence capabilities
President Bush signs Executive Order encouraging innovation in manufacturing
President Bush calls for Constitutional Amendment protecting marriage
President Bush signs Social Security Protection Act of 2004
President Bush welcomes seven nations to the NATO Alliance
President Bush signs Unborn Victims of Violence Act of 2004
President Bush unveils Tech initiatives for energy, health care, Internet
President Bush speaks at National World War II Memorial dedication
President Bush, President Chirac mark 60th anniversary of D-Day - Normandy, France
President Bush delivers eulogy at funeral service for President Reagan
President Bush signs African Growth and Opportunity Act
President Bush signs Identity Theft Penalty Enhancement Act
President Bush signs Project Bioshield Act of 2004

The guy has done a fantastic job in office, all the while keeping the bad guys at bay. Who would have thought we would go 4 years without another hit. Give the guy some credit. You guys can't be filled with all hate. Even I liked Clinton for some of the things he did.
 
you're right I will give him some credit. Going to Afganistan and dismantling the Taliban was the right thing to do, thats where the terrorists were. I would also like to give congress credit for not renewing the assault weapons ban. So,rightly speaking, is there anything that bush has done wrong?
 
thamarkman said:
So,rightly speaking, is there anything that bush has done wrong?
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I'll pardon the pun. Seeing as how the left is so good at criticizing Bush, why do you spell out all the things he has done wrong? I'd be happy to debate those item by item.
 
Ok, I've got a question for you, how long do you think this country can sustain cutting taxes while spending significantly more than it takes in? I think bush has vetoed 1 spending bill since he's been in office.
 
thamarkman said:
you're right I will give him some credit. Going to Afganistan and dismantling the Taliban was the right thing to do, thats where the terrorists were. I would also like to give congress credit for not renewing the assault weapons ban. So,rightly speaking, is there anything that bush has done wrong?
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Yeah, I think he hasn't fought the liberal hate agenda tooth and nail as hard as I'd like him to.

And to add on to your statement about the Taliban: Hello, wake up everybody, the terrorists aren't there anymore, they are in Iraq!!! That's why we're STILL FIGHTING! It's a war! Doesn't anybody read history anymore? Wars often continue on different pieces of ground called fronts. The current front in the war on terror is IRAQ.
 
thamarkman said:
Ok, I've got a question for you, how long do you think this country can sustain cutting taxes while spending significantly more than it takes in? I think bush has vetoed 1 spending bill since he's been in office.
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You didn't study supply side economics in college, did you? And, by the way, Congress enacts spending bills, not the president. He only signs or vetoes them.
 
thamarkman said:
I studied economics and what bush is doing can not go on forever.
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So what? Should we lay down our arms and try to kiss up to the terrorists like Spain did, and bow down to their wishes then? What choice do we have but to defeat an enemy who has attacked our innocent citizens in an unprovoked assault?
 
thamarkman said:
Barry you're Great, Bush has absolutely no credibility with the American people, only those right wing wackos whos minds are clouded with lies. And besides, anyone with a convertable Mark II can't be wrong.

But really I'm kind of surprised, stereotypically I figured anyone with enough money to have a Mark II like that would be a friend to Republicans. You just go to show that brains matter more than money. I'm with ya.
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I bet John Kerry's wife has enough money for her husband to afford a Mark II.

"Democrats don't earn their fortunes, they marry them!"
-Anonymous
 
Like I said, he did a good job in Afganistan, but it pretty much ends there.
 
thamarkman said:
Like I said, he did a good job in Afganistan, but it pretty much ends there.
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No, it hasn't ended yet, that's what you guys don't get. The war on terror is still going on.
 
thamarkman said:
Ok, I've got a question for you, how long do you think this country can sustain cutting taxes while spending significantly more than it takes in? I think bush has vetoed 1 spending bill since he's been in office.
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Note the area in gray where Republicans have been in control of Congress. Then also note the year 2001 when 9/11 happened. Also note that the Country was falling into recession in 2000 when Clinton was leaving office and Bush was coming in. Expenditures in the wars in Iraq and Afganistan, coupled with spending for homeland security all weigh heavily on the budget. Give it some time. The ecomony is growing at 4% per quarter, 3,000,000 new jobs in the last 2 years. Things are looking good, despite the fact that the world demand on fossil fuel has driven the price of gas up to nearly $2.50/gallon. You're in the right hands with the 'adults' in charge of things.

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This just illustrates that libs chime in with ridiculous claims (i.e. Bush is a liar, he hasn't vetoed more than one spending bill) without any facts to back them up. They are obviously using talking points given to them by the shrill siren of the media who is trumpeting whatever Dick Durbin or Nancy Pelosi are currently screeching about.
 
Somebody been listening to Rush? I hear a Rush echo.
 
Plenty of libs listen to Rush but you would NEVER get them to admit it. Listening to a lib on the radio, well.... what's the point, nobody wants to listen to a lib on the radio, not even libs evidently.
 
When driving my Mark II I often listen to Rush. It only has an AM radio. That's how I recognize your lines. From Rush's mouth to our screen. Don't you have anything original to say?
 
fossten said:
Yeah, I think he hasn't fought the liberal hate agenda tooth and nail as hard as I'd like him to.

And to add on to your statement about the Taliban: Hello, wake up everybody, the terrorists aren't there anymore, they are in Iraq!!! That's why we're STILL FIGHTING! It's a war! Doesn't anybody read history anymore? Wars often continue on different pieces of ground called fronts. The current front in the war on terror is IRAQ.
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EXCUSE ME, you are the one that needs to wake up. First of all, Shrub diverted funds from Afghanistan for his build up for Iraq(Some say illegally, still being investigated). Secondly, he did not finish the job in Afghanistan, the taliban and Al quida are on the upswing evidenced by the downing of that helicopter with 16-17 troops on board killed along with the missing seal team this past week.
He's turned Iraq into a terrorist training ground that rivals Afghanistan during the Aghan-Soviet war.
 
MonsterMark said:
Joey made the comment on another thread once that Bush had done, nada, zip, zilch.

Then I posted this. How much of this do you disagree with? Free free to highlight the ones you don't like in another color for clarity purposes.
President Bush proclaims National Child Abuse Prevention Month.
President Bush signs Medal of Valor Bill
President Bush sign Executive Order: Actions Concerning Regulations that Significantly Affect Energy Supply, Distribution, or Use.
President Bush signs tax cut billreducing Federal Income Tax Rates and sends a refund to millions of Americans
U.S. and Poland sign Open Skies Agreement
U.S. and Poland sign comprehensive trade package
President Bush signs Agriculture Supplemental Bill
Terrorist attack of September 11, 2001 over 3000 innocent Americans are killed.
President Bush signs Authorization for Use of Military Force Bill
President Bush signs Airline Transportation Bill to assure the safety and stability of the nation's commercial airlines
President Bush signs executive order freezing the assets of terrorist organizations
President Bush initiates military action in Afghanistan dismantling the Taliban regime and liberating 25 million people
President Bush signs Executive Order establishing Office of Homeland Security.
President Bush signs the Patriot Act.
President Bush signs Military Construction Appropriations Bill to improve quality of housing for military personnel.
President Bush signs National Emergency Construction Authority Executive Order
President Bush signs Interior Appropriations Bill.
President Bush signs Internet Access Taxation Moratorium so the growth of the Internet is not slowed by taxation.
President Bush signs Afghan Women and Children Relief Act.
President Bush grants permanent trade status to China
President Bush signs Defense Authorization Act - authorizing the funding necessary to defend the United States.
President Bush signs Intelligence Authorization Act authorizing appropriations to fund US intelligence, including activities essential to success in the war against global terrorism.
President Bush signs Landmark Education Bill
President Bush takes action to help restore Everglades
President Bush signs Brownfields Bill.
President Bush signs Terrorism Relief Act providing tax relief to families of those killed in the attacks on September the 11th, the anthrax attacks and the Oklahoma City bombing.
President Bush increases the budget for border security.
President Bush announces substantial increases in Homeland Security budget.
President Bush signs Executive Order establishing the USA Freedom Corps
President Bus signs Investor & Capital Markets Fee Relief Act.
President Bush announces clear skies & global climate change initiatives
President Bush increases funding for Bioterrorism by 319 Percent.
President Bush signs Job Creation and Worker Assistance Act of 2002
President Bush signs Campaign Finance Reform Act.
President Bush outlines U.S. plan to help world's poor- proposes $5 billion plan to help developing nations.
President Bush signs Farm Bill
President Bush signs Border Security and Visa Entry Reform Act.
President Bush and Russian President Putin Sign Nuclear Arms Treaty
President Bush commemorates one-year anniversary of tax relief
President Bush signs Public Health Security and Bioterrorism Bill
President Bush signs Export-Import Bank Act
President Bush promotes new mother and child HIV prevention initiative
President Bush signs Corporate Corruption Bill
President Bush signs Trade Act of 2002.
President Bush proclaims Women's Equality Day
President Bush signs Born-Alive Infants Protection Act.
President Bush signs executive order prescribing regulations relating to the safeguarding of vessels, harbors, ports, and waterfront facilities of the United States.
President Bush proclaims Patriot Day
President Bush addresses the United Nations General Assembly
President Bush sends Iraq Resolution to Congress.
President Bush acts to protect pensions and retirement security for all Americans.
President Bush, Chinese President Jiang Zemin discuss Iraq, N. Korea
President Bush signs historic election reform legislation into law- Help America Vote Act.
President Bush proclaims National Alzheimer's Disease Awareness Month
President Bush signs two bills improve health care. The first to increase the number of community health care centers and the second to provide faster access to safe and effective medical devices.
President Bush signs Pledge of Allegiance Bill reaffirming one Nation under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance, and "In God we trust" as the National Motto
President Bush proclaimsNational Family Week
President Bush welcomes Romania to NATO
President Bush signs Homeland Security Act
President Bush signs Terrorism Insurance Act
President Bush signs 911 Commission Bill
President Bush signs Executive Order: Equal Protection of the Laws for Faith-based and Community Organizations.
President signs National Defense Authorization Act.
President Bush signs E-Government Act.
President Bush signs Wetlands Conservation Act
President Bush proclaims Human Rights Day, Bill of Rights Day; Human Rights Week
President Bush implements key elements of his faith-based initiative
President Bush signs executive order: Blocking property of persons undermining Democratic processes in Zimbabwe
President Bush proclaims National Child Abuse Prevention Month
President Bush says Saddam Hussein must leave Iraq within 48 Hours
Operation Iraqi Freedom. President Bush initiates military with Iraq dismantling the Saddam Hussein regime and liberating 22 million people.
President Bush signs Protect Act- Amber Alert Bill expanding nationwide a rapid-response network to help find kidnapped children.
President Bush proclaims National Day of Prayer
President Bush signs U.S.-Singapore Free Trade Agreement
President Bush signs Jobs and Growth Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2003.
President Bush signs The United States Leadership Against HIV/AIDS, Tuberculosis, and Malaria Act of 2003.
President Bush signs executive order establishing the Bob Hope American Patriot Award.
President Bush signs executive order protecting the Development Fund for Iraq and other property in which Iraq has an interest
President Bush proclaimsNational Child's Day
President Bush and Russian President Putin sign Treaty of Moscow
President Bush meets with leaders of Jordan, Israel and Palestinian Authority
President Bush proclaims Flag Day and National Flag Week
President Bush proclaims June 2003 as National Homeownership Month
President Bush signs "Keeping Children Safe Act"
President Bush signs Welfare Reform Extension Act of 2003, which extends the Temporary Assistance for Needy Families block grant program and certain related programs.
President Bush names Randall Tobias to be Global AIDS Coordinator
Uday and Qusay Hussein are killed during raid in Iraq.
President Bush names Randall Tobias to be Global AIDS Coordinator
President Bush signs executive order blocking removal of Iraqi property from that country by the former Iraqi regime, its senior officials and their family members
President Bush proclaims Women's Equality Day
President Bush Promotes Healthy Forests in Arizona
President Bush signs Chile, Singapore Free Trade Agreement Bills
President Bush signs Prison Rape Elimination Act of 2003
President Bush, King Abdullah of Jordan meet at Camp David
President Bush signs Do Not Call Registry
President Bush proclaims Marriage Protection Week.
President Bush proclaims Child Health Day
President Bush signs Homeland Security Appropriations Bill
President Bush Signs Partial Birth Abortion Ban Act of 2003
President Bush proclaims November 2003 as National Adoption Month
President Bush Meets with Iraqi women leaders
President Bush Signs the Animal Drug User Fee Act of 2003
President Bush proclaims National Family Week
President Bush signs Military Construction Appropriations Act
President Bush signs the National Defense Authorization Act
President Bush meets with troops in Iraq on Thanksgiving
President Bush proclaims World AIDS Day
President Bush signs the Adoption Promotion Act of 2003
President Bush signs Nanotechnology Research and Development Act
President Bush signs Healthy Forest Restoration Act
President Bush signs Fair and Accurate Credit Transactions Act
President Bush signs Medicare Prescription Drug, Improvement and Modernization Act of 2003
Saddam Hussein is captured in Iraq
President Bush signs American Dream Downpayment Act of 2003
Libya pledges to dismantle WMD programs
President Bush Announces Formation of Independent Commission to look at American intelligence capabilities
President Bush signs Executive Order encouraging innovation in manufacturing
President Bush calls for Constitutional Amendment protecting marriage
President Bush signs Social Security Protection Act of 2004
President Bush welcomes seven nations to the NATO Alliance
President Bush signs Unborn Victims of Violence Act of 2004
President Bush unveils Tech initiatives for energy, health care, Internet
President Bush speaks at National World War II Memorial dedication
President Bush, President Chirac mark 60th anniversary of D-Day - Normandy, France
President Bush delivers eulogy at funeral service for President Reagan
President Bush signs African Growth and Opportunity Act
President Bush signs Identity Theft Penalty Enhancement Act
President Bush signs Project Bioshield Act of 2004

The guy has done a fantastic job in office, all the while keeping the bad guys at bay. Who would have thought we would go 4 years without another hit. Give the guy some credit. You guys can't be filled with all hate. Even I liked Clinton for some of the things he did.
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Big Whoop!! You can compile an equally "impressive" list of accomplishments for any previous administration. The fact of the matter is that Shrubs Environmental and Energy bills have been shaped by industry, not by true concern for the well being of the environment or the energy consuming public. He has more "foxes guarding the hen house" than any other administration in history. And a lot of things you list on there are nothing more than fluff.
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