JohnnyBz00LS said:
What's wrong? Somebody
else got you pegged
too??
I tell you what, just to humor you so that the other's here who are able to filter through your tirades can see what a silly and bogus question Brian posed, I'll answer Brian's question with another, much simpler question, which I'm sure you'll have an immediate and precise answer, since you are the self-proclaimed "expert" in all things under the sun, or shall I say within the Milky Way:
Since you so firmly believe BuSh's "troop surge" is "the answer" to "winning the war in Iraq", tell me precisely how many casualties, both coalition forces and Iraqi, broken down by nation and religious sect, are to be expected over the next 30 days, and by the end of this calendar year.
If you are uncapable of deriving such an answer with any amount of precision, which could be calculated for this "complex system" with millions of variables and millions of "cause-effect relationships", then how can you possibly expect anyone to derive a similar answer with similar precision to Brian's question, which would have to be calculated for the "complex system" that is the earths climate, with BILLIONS of variables and BILLIONS of "cause-effect relationships"??
Yet to burry your head in the sand and ignore the
historical trends that I've posted here numerous times and deny the existance of GW can only be called pure ignorance.
How about this "historical trend," Ahmadinejohnnie?
Indian Scientists Refute Global Warming Alarmists' Claims of Glacial Retreat
Posted by Noel Sheppard on February 13, 2007 - 09:52.
A common alarmism by global warming activists like Al Gore is that glaciers around the world are melting. This represents the real threat to the planet in their view, as this will cause a rise in oceans that will eventually drown us all.
Well, leading scientiststs in India claim that this is bunk, and that glaciers in the Himalayas aren’t retreating at all. As reported by the Hindustan Times (emphasis mine throughout, h/t Drudge):
Some experts have questioned the alarmists theory on global warming leading to shrinkage of Himalayan glaciers. VK Raina, a leading glaciologist and former ADG of GSI is one among them.
He feels that the research on Indian glaciers is negligible. Nothing but the remote sensing data forms the basis of these alarmists observations and not on the spot research.
Hmmm. Not on the spot research, huh? Why isn’t this surprising? The article continued:
Raina told the Hindustan Times that out of 9,575 glaciers in India, till date, research has been conducted only on about 50. Nearly 200 years data has shown that nothing abnormal has occurred in any of these glaciers.
It is simple. The issue of glacial retreat is being sensationalised by a few individuals, the septuagenarian Raina claimed. Throwing a gauntlet to the alarmist,
he said the issue should be debated threadbare before drawing a conclusion.
Hmmm. So, there isn’t a consensus on this issue? But Al Gore and Ellen Goodman say there is one. How could they be wrong? The article continued:
Surprisingly,
Raina, who has been associated with the research and data collection in over 25 glaciers in India and abroad, debunked the theory that Gangotri glacier is retreating alarmingly.
Maintaining that the glaciers are undergoing natural changes, witnessed periodically, he said recent studies in the Gangotri and Zanskar areas (Drung- Drung, Kagriz glaciers) have not shown any evidence of major retreat.
"Claims of global warming causing glacial melt in the Himalayas are based on wrong assumptions," Raina, a trained mountaineer and skiing expert said. He rued that not much is being done by the Government to create a bank of trained geologists for an in-depth study of glaciers.
Wrong assumptions? You mean these people that are causing all of this hysteria don’t actually have any facts to support their conclusions? How shocking. The article continued:
In fact, it is difficult to ascertain the exact state of Himalayan glaciers as these are very dusty as compared to the ones in Alaska and the Alps. The present presumptions are based on the cosmatic study of the glacier surfaces.
Nobody knows what is happening beneath the glaciers. What ever is being flaunted about the under surface activity of the glaciers, is merely presumptions, he claimed.
Contrary to the consensus nonsense being espoused by alarmists, Raina isn’t alone in his opinions:
His views were echoed by Dr RK Ganjoo, Director, Regional Centre for Field Operations and Research on Himalayan Glaciology, who is supervising study of glaciers in Ladakh region including one in the Siachen area. He also maintained that nothing abnormal has been found in any of the Himalyan glaciers studied so far by him.
Still, he wondered on the Himalayan glaciers being compared with those in Alaska or Europe to lend credence to the melt theory. Indian glaciers are at 3,500-4,000 meter above the sea level whereas those in the Alps are at much lower levels. Certainly, the conditions under which the glaciers in Alaska are retreating, are not prevailing in the Indian sub-continent, he explained.
Another leading geologist MN Koul of Jammu University, who is actively engaged in studying glacier dynamics in J&K and Himachal holds similar views. Referring to his research on Kol glacier ( Paddar, J&K) and Naradu (HP), he said
both the glaciers have not changed much in the past two decades.
More and more it becomes quite clear: anthropogenic global warming is a figment of the imagination without any science to support it.
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