Hillary for President thread.

Ah, yes. They do seem to be getting closer to annointing Hillary for the Presidential Run.
Every piece of press coverage for Hillary is oh so positive. Don't worry guys, come election time, we'll have plenty to talk about concerning 'ol Hillary.
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Clinton to Direct Creation of Democrats' Agenda
By Ronald Brownstein, Times Staff Writer



COLUMBUS, Ohio -- The Democratic Leadership Council, an organization of influential party moderates, named Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton today to direct a new initiative to define a party agenda for the 2006 and 2008 elections.

The appointment solidified the identification of Clinton, once considered a champion of the party's left, with the centrist movement that helped propel her husband to the White House in 1992. It also continued her effort, which has accelerated in recent months, to present herself as a moderate on issues such as national security, immigration and abortion. [snip]

Full article here...http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-072505dnc_lat,0,4442905.story?coll=la-home-headlines
 
That is hilarious!!! The Democratic Party still doesn't know what it stands for!!!
 
I've tried to keep quiet, but I just can't hold it in any longer. I have to tell everyone that Sen. Hillary Leftist Clinton's incompetent, incorrigible teachings are a shout to the world that, in the immediate years ahead, Sen. Clinton will instill distrust and thereby create a need for her out-of-touch views. Before I say anything else, let me remind her that she is firmly convinced that she is forward-looking, open-minded, and creative. Her belief is controverted, however, by the weight of the evidence indicating that Sen. Clinton would have us believe that my bitterness at her is merely the latent projection of libidinal energy stemming from self-induced anguish. Yeah, right. Not that I ever believed her lies, but at least before they had some kind of internal consistency -- a logic, albeit twisted, that invited refutation. But now, it seems Sen. Clinton is desperately flailing about for any pretext, no matter how ludicrous or slight, to tear down all theoretical frameworks for addressing the issue. We must delegitimize her. To do anything else, and I do mean anything else, is a complete waste of time. She is inherently abusive, insolent, and dastardly. Oh, and she also has a self-aggrandizing mode of existence.

Whether or not you realize this, Sen. Clinton's idiotic claim that she is the one who will lead us to our great shining future is just that, an idiotic claim. Sen. Clinton doesn't want equal time. Sen. Clinton doesn't want pluralism. Sen. Clinton just wants to waste everyone else's time.

She measures the value of a man by the amount of profit she can realize from him. I could write pages on the subject, but the following should suffice. I must ask that Sen. Clinton's factotums reveal the truth about Sen. Clinton's catch-phrases. I know they'll never do that, so here's an alternate proposal: They should, at the very least, back off and quit trying to supplant one form of injustice with another. Sen. Clinton's utterances are popular among cacodemonic degenerates, but that doesn't mean the rest of us have to accept them. Sen. Clinton can get away with lies (e.g., that she has achieved sainthood), because the average person cannot imagine anyone lying so brazenly. Not one person in a hundred will actually check out the facts for himself and discover that Sen. Clinton is lying.

It is pointless to fret about the damage already caused by her immoral solutions. The past cannot be changed. We must cope with the present if we hope to affect our future and transform our culture of war and violence into a culture of peace and nonviolence. I should note that Sen. Clinton's trained seals consider her inclinations a breath of fresh air. I, however, find them more like the fetid odor of faddism. When I first became aware of Sen. Clinton's covert invasion into our thought processes, all I could think was how if Sen. Clinton is going to make an emotional appeal, then she should also include a rational argument. I may not be perfect, but at least I'm not afraid to say that if we contradict her, we are labelled piteous, refractory lackwits. If we capitulate, however, we forfeit our freedoms.

In point of fact, Sen. Clinton should think about how her threats lead overbearing wastrels to use terms of opprobrium such as "illiberal dummkopfs" and "untrustworthy, politically incorrect braggarts" to castigate whomever she opposes. If Sen. Clinton doesn't want to think that hard, perhaps she should just keep quiet. I must emphasize this because it seems that no one else is telling you that she is talking out of her posterior. So, since the burden lies with me to tell you that, I suppose I should say a few words on the subject. To begin with, I know more about pessimism than most people. You might even say that I'm an expert on the subject. I can therefore state with confidence that we can all have daydreams about Happy Fuzzy Purple Bunny Land, where everyone is caring, loving, and nice. Not only will those daydreams not come true, but Sen. Clinton's latest manifesto, like all the ones that preceded it, is a consummate anthology of disastrously bad writing teeming with misquotations and inaccuracies, an odyssey of anecdotes that are occasionally entertaining, but certainly not informative. From a purely technical point of view, given the amount of misinformation that Sen. Clinton is circulating, I must point out that it would be wrong to imply that she is involved in some kind of conspiracy to provoke terrible, total, universal, and merciless destruction. It would be wrong because her editorials are far beyond the conspiracy stage. Not only that, but we should nourish children with good morals and self-esteem. (Goodness knows, our elected officials aren't going to.) To deny that this kind of thing makes me wonder whether we've ever moved past subversive nihilism at all is snooty nonsense and political irresponsibility. It is nonsense because Sen. Clinton demonstrates a terrible, inaccurate, even puerile, misuse of history with her brusque morals. And it is irresponsible because Sen. Clinton is guilty of at least one criminal offense. In addition, she frequently exhibits less formal criminal behavior, such as deliberate and even gleeful cruelty, explosive behavior, and a burning desire to give voice, in a totally emotional and non-rational way, to her deep-rooted love of voyeurism. To conclude, Sen. Hillary Leftist Clinton's backers are so ready to paint pictures of treacherous worlds inhabited by possession-obsessed, whiney sluggards that their imprecations are laughable.
 
MonsterMark said:
What I posted there is what the headline would have said if a Republican had offered up this legislation. Bi-partisan? Ha. Partisan. All it is a ploy by the Democrats to try to look strong on defense. It is all so painfully pathetic.

It is almost impossible to follow the ball. 1st they want to do something about the attacks, then they don't want to follow up, then we do and everybody's happy, then things don't go well and the weasles start bitching, then we have to pull out and now we have to hire more troops. Give me a break.

Remember when Hillary was President and Bill was busy in the Oral Office? She and Bill tried to dismantle the military! And now because she is running for office, we are supposed to believe she is a hawk and wants to BUILD the military? You my friend are the one in need of immediate medical attention. Republicans need to perform a reverse lobotomy on you to cure you of your gullibility.
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And where do you think all these recuits are going to come from? According to Democrats, the US fights wars on the backs of the poor and black in this country so it would only serve to make sense that the Democrats will reach into the poorest neighborhoods to find their 'recruits'. Mark my words, if there is a draft, it will be the Democrats that propose it. Oh, wait, my bad. The Democrats already did that.

The left is the laughing stock of the world. Thank God we have you purely for the entertainment value you provide the rest of us.

You right wingers need to get your facts right. Last I remember she was only the First Lady. You had better check with Rush and get your story straigth.

As for dismantaling of the military. What are they doing with the bases now? Why was Rumsfeld looking at rationalizing/reducing the military?

And why are the dems trying to increase the military size now?
 
i say we get rude of the presidency
and ill become King of the free world :)
then start throwing all the bad ppl out and if they come back ill hand them and behed them
and every one the drive a Lincoln will become one of my
Knites
wow is that speeled right
and my Wife will not drive anything wow dont think i could aford insurance on 2 ppl LOL
 
Kbob said:
It could be argued that Bush is protecting responsible people from irresponsible people.

It could also be argued Bush is protecting rich people from poor people...
 
LincolnPark said:
You right wingers need to get your facts right. Last I remember she was only the First Lady. You had better check with Rush and get your story straigth.

As for dismantaling of the military. What are they doing with the bases now? Why was Rumsfeld looking at rationalizing/reducing the military?

And why are the dems trying to increase the military size now?

Oh wow, just go ahead and point out the obvious flaws in how the BuSh administration "wages war"! LOL.

A) Beat chest loudly and declare "war on terrorism"
B) Send too few troops to do the job and under-equip them
C) Pat selves on back for "winning the peace" while death toll continues rising un-abated
D) Cut funding to the VA, resulting in VA hospital closings across the country
E) Tout "Homeland Security"
F) Close National Guard bases
G) Constrict pay scales for the enlisted
H) Scratch heads to try and figure out why armed forces recruitment declines

Seems pretty obvious that the Dems are merely suggesting the obvious way out of this trap BuSh / Cheney / Dumbsfeld has led us into. Here's the bait guys. Turn it down and say goodby to your cozy seats in Washington.

Oh, and BTW Bryan, a "draft" is going to obtain soldiers much more equally across the rich/poor & race spectrums than any "voluntary" recruitment could hope to.
 
JohnnyBz00LS said:
Oh, and BTW Bryan, a "draft" is going to obtain soldiers much more equally across the rich/poor & race spectrums than any "voluntary" recruitment could hope to.
The left just doesn't get it.

The reason OUR military is the best in the world is because it is an "ALL VOLUNTARY" military. I wouldn't want some ass-wipe sitting next to me when the bullets are flying to not want to be there protecting me and my fellow soldiers. Why do you think guys re-enlist? Because of the brotherhood formed when you serve with guys that also have volunteered their lives for freedom. Guys re-enlist so they can continue protecting each other.

Unfortunately I don't have time to wipe out all the other points in this thread. Somebody else take over. Thanks. I'm too busy. Maybe tonight.
 
no ofence to you women
sorry out there
but i can vote for a women sorry
president that goes for a beuty spa LOL
 
MonsterMark said:
The left just doesn't get it.

The reason OUR military is the best in the world is because it is an "ALL VOLUNTARY" military. I wouldn't want some ass-wipe sitting next to me when the bullets are flying to not want to be there protecting me and my fellow soldiers. Why do you think guys re-enlist? Because of the brotherhood formed when you serve with guys that also have volunteered their lives for freedom. Guys re-enlist so they can continue protecting each other.

Unfortunately I don't have time to wipe out all the other points in this thread. Somebody else take over. Thanks. I'm too busy. Maybe tonight.

Nice, so you are calling these millions of draftees "ass-wipes"?? Are you saying that the military they served during WWI, WWII, Korean and VietNam wars was not the "best in the world" because they didn't volunteer?? I believe that a long line of these vets will soon be lining up to kick your ass.

Inductions (by year) from World War I through the end of the draft (1973)

Year: Number of Inductions
1917: 516,212
1918: 2,294,084
1940: 18,633
1941: 923,842
1942: 3,033,361
1943: 3,323,970
1944: 1,591,942
1945: 945,862
1946: 183,383
1947: 0
1948: 20,348
1949: 9,781
1950: 219,771
1951: 551,806
1952: 438,479
1953: 471,806
1954: 253,230
1955: 152,777
1956: 137,940
1957: 138,504
1958: 142,246
1959: 96,153
1960: 86,602
1961: 118,586
1962: 82,060
1963: 119,265
1964: 112,386
1965: 230,991
1966: 382,010
1967: 228,263
1968: 296,406
1969: 283,586
1970: 162,746
1971: 94,092
1972: 49,514
1973: 646
 
JohnnyBz00LS said:
Nice, so you are calling these millions of draftees "ass-wipes"?? Are you saying that the military they served during WWI, WWII, Korean and VietNam wars was not the "best in the world" because they didn't volunteer?? I believe that a long line of these vets will soon be lining up to kick your ass.


Where precisely did this chart come from? Simple curiousity...nothing more, nothing less.
 
JohnnyBz00LS said:
Oh wow, just go ahead and point out the obvious flaws in how the BuSh administration "wages war"! LOL.

A) Beat chest loudly and declare "war on terrorism"
B) Send too few troops to do the job and under-equip them
C) Pat selves on back for "winning the peace" while death toll continues rising un-abated
D) Cut funding to the VA, resulting in VA hospital closings across the country
E) Tout "Homeland Security"
F) Close National Guard bases
G) Constrict pay scales for the enlisted
H) Scratch heads to try and figure out why armed forces recruitment declines

Seems pretty obvious that the Dems are merely suggesting the obvious way out of this trap BuSh / Cheney / Dumbsfeld has led us into. Here's the bait guys. Turn it down and say goodby to your cozy seats in Washington.

Oh, and BTW Bryan, a "draft" is going to obtain soldiers much more equally across the rich/poor & race spectrums than any "voluntary" recruitment could hope to.

As opposed to the way the LEFTIST FIBERALS go to war:

1. Vote FOR the war before they vote AGAINST it
2. Politicize 9/11 and demand preventive action next time
3. Criticize Bush for taking preventive action against Iraq
4. Compare Gitmo to Pol Pot, Hitler's death camps, and Stalins Gulag, thus emboldening terrorists everywhere
5. Try to kiss the terrorists' A$$es, hoping they will like us for trying to like them instead of just defeating them
6. Stage protests in front of Walter Reed Medical, thus dishonoring our injured, recuperating troops while claiming to support the troops but not the war
7. Try to spin the recruitment numbers, while deceitfully (yeah, you, Johnny) leaving out the very fact that the U.S. Military has EXCEEDED its recruitment numbers ACROSS THE BOARD FOR EVERY BRANCH FOR AUGUST
8. Run and hide from Cindy Sheehan because it would hurt them politically, but secretly cheering her distasteful acts
9. Wish for the good ol' days when their last President in the last 25 years was a draft-dodger
 
I expected nothing less than more worthless vile from you.........

fossten said:
As opposed to the way the LEFTIST FIBERALS go to war:

1. Vote FOR the war before they vote AGAINST it WHAT VOTE was "against" the war? Come on, show me the PROOF of a VOTE.
2. Politicize 9/11 and demand preventive action next time Oh, you mean JUST LIKE BuSh politicizing 9/11 to justfy the invasion of Iraq?
3. Criticize Bush for taking preventive action against Iraq You mean PREMPTIVE, there's a difference.
4. Compare Gitmo to Pol Pot, Hitler's death camps, and Stalins Gulag, thus emboldening terrorists everywhere Some repugs drew the same parallels, but "emboldening terrorists" is a stretch only you could conceive.
5. Try to kiss the terrorists' A$$es, hoping they will like us for trying to like them instead of just defeating them Oh, just like BuSh (Jr. & Sr.) and Dumbsfeld kissing the asses of the known terrorist supporters like the Saddam and the Saudis??
6. Stage protests in front of Walter Reed Medical, thus dishonoring our injured, recuperating troops while claiming to support the troops but not the war So how is BuSh & co "supporting the troops" when they cut VA funding??
7. Try to spin the recruitment numbers, while deceitfully (yeah, you, Johnny) leaving out the very fact that the U.S. Military has EXCEEDED its recruitment numbers ACROSS THE BOARD FOR EVERY BRANCH FOR AUGUST Really, WHAT "recruitment numbers"?? Those of the BuSh administrations' "lowered expectations"?? How about the last 6 months?
8. Run and hide from Cindy Sheehan because it would hurt them politically, but secretly cheering her distasteful acts About the only one "running and hiding" is BuSh because he's a chickenhawk-s-h-i-t.
9. Wish for the good ol' days when their last President in the last 25 years was a draft-dodger You mean wishing for the good ol' days when our current pres and vice-pres are NOT draft dodgers!

You are a joke. Keep em coming. I can use the laughs.
*owned*
 
JohnnyBz00LS said:
Nice, so you are calling these millions of draftees "ass-wipes"?? Are you saying that the military they served during WWI, WWII, Korean and VietNam wars was not the "best in the world" because they didn't volunteer?? I believe that a long line of these vets will soon be lining up to kick your ass.
Go do your own poll.

Go and ask ANYBODY serving in the armed forces if they would rather serve next to a 'volunteer' or 'draftee'. Get back to me with the results.

And to clarify, not all 'draftees' would be ass-wipes. Just the ones that don't want to serve when called upon and would be the 1st to panic, causing loss of life for himself and fellow soldiers.
 
JohnnyBz00LS said:
Quote:
Originally Posted by fossten
As opposed to the way the LEFTIST FIBERALS go to war:

1. Vote FOR the war before they vote AGAINST it WHAT VOTE was "against" the war? Come on, show me the PROOF of a VOTE.

John Kerry admitted it during the whole 2004 campaign (You guys lost, remember?).
2. Politicize 9/11 and demand preventive action next time Oh, you mean JUST LIKE BuSh politicizing 9/11 to justfy the invasion of Iraq?

Your answer does nothing to refute my point. You only try to distract from it.
3. Criticize Bush for taking preventive action against Iraq You mean PREMPTIVE, there's a difference.

No, I meant preventive. Don't misquote me.
4. Compare Gitmo to Pol Pot, Hitler's death camps, and Stalins Gulag, thus emboldening terrorists everywhere Some repugs drew the same parallels, but "emboldening terrorists" is a stretch only you could conceive.

It was YOUR Fiberal Femocrat leaders who wrung their hands and whimpered about the terrorists being offended and then they might REALLY get mad and do something to us.
5. Try to kiss the terrorists' A$$es, hoping they will like us for trying to like them instead of just defeating them Oh, just like BuSh (Jr. & Sr.) and Dumbsfeld kissing the asses of the known terrorist supporters like the Saddam and the Saudis??

Your statement is absurd. We didn't kiss the A$$ of "the Saddam" and the Saudis are helping us round up Al Qaeda.
6. Stage protests in front of Walter Reed Medical, thus dishonoring our injured, recuperating troops while claiming to support the troops but not the war So how is BuSh & co "supporting the troops" when they cut VA funding??

Your statement does not refute mine, it only attempts to distract, yet again. You need to spell out who "they" are.
7. Try to spin the recruitment numbers, while deceitfully (yeah, you, Johnny) leaving out the very fact that the U.S. Military has EXCEEDED its recruitment numbers ACROSS THE BOARD FOR EVERY BRANCH FOR AUGUST Really, WHAT "recruitment numbers"?? Those of the BuSh administrations' "lowered expectations"?? How about the last 6 months?

HOW ABOUT THE LAST 10 MONTHS???
http://www.defenselink.mil/releases/2005/nr20050810-4393.html
Read it and weep.
8. Run and hide from Cindy Sheehan because it would hurt them politically, but secretly cheering her distasteful acts About the only one "running and hiding" is BuSh because he's a chickenhawk-s-h-i-t.

If you paid any attention to the news, you would know that Bush addressed the Sheehan situation last week.
9. Wish for the good ol' days when their last President in the last 25 years was a draft-dodger You mean wishing for the good ol' days when our current pres and vice-pres are NOT draft dodgers!

Bush joined the Guard (which doesn't insulate anybody, since Guard members are in Iraq now), while Clinton craftily hid behind Oxford ROTC in England until it was safe to come home.






You are a joke. Keep em coming. I can use the laughs.
*owned*

There you go again. Filling up post pages with useless, cheap rhetoric, while ignoring the facts. The only one laughing is me. :bowrofl:

*owned*
 
fossten said:
There you go again. Filling up post pages with useless, cheap rhetoric, while ignoring the facts. The only one laughing is me. :bowrofl:

*owned*

9. Wish for the good ol' days when their last President in the last 25 years was a draft-dodger You mean wishing for the good ol' days when our current pres and vice-pres are NOT draft dodgers!
Bush joined the Guard (which doesn't insulate anybody, since Guard members are in Iraq now), while Clinton craftily hid behind Oxford ROTC in England until it was safe to come home.
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And John Kerry receiving 4 deferments before 'volunteering' knowing his 5th request would be turned down and then would be drafted into the military and would no longer be able to pick and choose where he served.

I love the left. Whenever they accuse, you can be damn sure they are guilty of it themselves.
 
MonsterMark said:
I love the left. Whenever they accuse, you can be damn sure they are guilty of it themselves.

In psychobabble, that's known as projecting.
 
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fossten said:
Originally Posted by fossten
As opposed to the way the LEFTIST FIBERALS go to war:

1. John Kerry admitted it during the whole 2004 campaign (You guys lost, remember?). [whiney voice]Your answer does nothing to refute my point. You only try to distract from it. [/whiney voice] They VOTED to give BuSh power to go to war. There was no VOTE "against the war".

2. Your answer does nothing to refute my point. You only try to distract from it. To borrow a phrase from Bryan, "I love the right. Whenever they accuse, you can be damn sure they are guilty of it themselves."

3. No, I meant preventive. Don't misquote me.

Fine, whatever, you pick the best definition of what BuSh did:
pre·ven·tive [ pri véntiv ]

adjective

Definitions:

with purpose of preventing something: used or intended to stop something undesirable from happening or to stop somebody from doing something undesirable
preventive dentistry

noun (plural pre·ven·tives)

Definitions:

something that prevents: something that stops something undesirable from happening, especially something that protects against illness
A good preventive against heart disease is a healthy lifestyle.

pre·emp·tive [ pree émptiv ]

adjective

Definitions:

1. done before others can act: done before somebody else has had an opportunity to act so as to make his or her planned action pointless or impossible

2. military intended to prevent attack: intended to eliminate or lessen an enemy's capacity to attack
a preemptive strike


4. It was YOUR Fiberal Femocrat leaders who wrung their hands and whimpered about the terrorists being offended and then they might REALLY get mad and do something to us. [whiney voice]Your answer does nothing to refute my point. You only try to distract from it. [/whiney voice]

5. Your statement is absurd. We didn't kiss the A$$ of "the Saddam" and the Saudis are helping us round up Al Qaeda. [whiney voice]Your answer does nothing to refute my point. You only try to distract from it. [/whiney voice] So BuSh Sr. and Dumsfeld getting cozy and shaking hands w/ Saddam on video was made up? Or were they just exchanging formalities before a round of "soggy biscuit"?? And lets not forget the MAJORITY of the 9/11 terrorists were SAUDI!

6. Your statement does not refute mine, it only attempts to distract, yet again. You need to spell out who "they" are. To borrow a phrase from Bryan, "I love the right. Whenever they accuse, you can be damn sure they are guilty of it themselves." Can you READ? "They" = BuSh & co = GW BuSh + republican controlled house & senate: OK, so maybe it isn't "technically" a "cut", but it is going backwards relative to inflation and the increasing needs of the VA during wartime, to me that is boarderline traitorist! http://www.dav.org/voters/legislative_talking_points.html

7. HOW ABOUT THE LAST 10 MONTHS???
http://www.defenselink.mil/releases/2005/nr20050810-4393.html
Read it and weep. "EXCEEDED GOALS ACROSS THE BOARD"??? Better do your math: From your OWN data source, A/N/AF/M is only getting 95% of their combined goals since 10/1/04, while the reserve component is getting less than 85%. And those totals still pale in comparison to what is necessary during a real war. Who's being DECEITFUL NOW?? *owned*

8. If you paid any attention to the news, you would know that Bush addressed the Sheehan situation last week. The only "addresses" BuSh makes is in front of pre-selected audiences, filtered of potential dissenters, because he's a spineless chickenhawk.

9. Bush joined the Guard (which doesn't insulate anybody, since Guard members are in Iraq now), while Clinton craftily hid behind Oxford ROTC in England until it was safe to come home. Oh yeah, RIGHT, GW played the rabbit piloting the chased plane while in the Guard, average "C" student flyer, because the ANG didn't want to waste time making him a real fighter pilot. Lucky for him he had to go campaign for daddy before they had a chance to send him into battle to face REAL enemy fire, like some REAL servicemen.
 
This "chickenhawk" thing is being promoted by anti-Bush blogs and Michael Moore's website. Figures you'd pick up Moore-on's lingo. You probably have a shrine dedicated to him.

Jonah Goldberg shows you where that term belongs:

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August 17, 2005, 7:59 a.m.
Playing “Chickenhawk”
Left-wing platitudes.

"Cindy Sheehan, the mother of Casey Sheehan, an American soldier who was killed in Iraq . . . "

That's the sentence Cindy Sheehan and her increasingly lugubrious p.r. machine want every news story about her to begin with. Nobody likes the idea of criticizing a woman who's lost her son in such circumstances. The hope has been that the high wall of Mrs. Sheehan's "moral authority" will allow her to say whatever she pleases and that nobody will say boo about it for fear of seeming insensitive to what must be unimaginable anguish. Still, even some of her supporters must realize that her anguish has caused her to find meaning in a wildly partisan, orchestrated publicity stunt.
What's interesting, to me at least, is that Mrs. Sheehan represents simply the latest installment in a long, nasty, desperate ideological campaign — and one that demonstrates the logical limits of identity politics.

Anybody who's been on the receiving end of the "chickenhawk" epithet knows what I'm getting at. Various definitions of chickenhawk are out there, but the gist — as if you didn't know — is "coward" or "unpatriotic hypocrite." The accusation is less an argument than an insult.

It's also a form of bullying. The intent is to say, "You have no right to support the war since you haven't served or signed up." It's a way to get supporters of the war in Iraq, the war on terror, or the president simply to shut up.

But there's a benefit of a doubt to be given. There are many people — I know because I've argued with lots of them — who don't believe the "chickenhawk" thing is intellectually unserious.

Obsessed with "authenticity" and the evil of hypocrisy — as they see it — they think the message and the messenger are inextricably linked. Two plus two is four only if the right person says so. We hear this logic most often from adherents of identity politics, who give more weight to the statements of women, blacks, Jews, and others for the sole reason that they were uttered by people born female, black, Jewish or whatever. People who grew up poor are supposed to have a more "authentic" perspective on economic policy than people who didn't, and so on.

Don't get me wrong — experience is important and useful, including the experiences that come from being black or gay or otherwise a member of the Coalition of the Oppressed. But valuable experience confers knowledge; it doesn't beatify. And identity isn't an iron cage: It is not insurmountable. And, at the end of the day, arguments must stand on their own merits, regardless of who delivers them.

Indeed, the notion that there is a single, authentic black perspective strikes me as fundamentally racist in its essentialism. And the idea that women adhere to a female logic unique to them strikes me as by definition sexist. But the Left doesn't care, because this perspective is indispensable for attacking "inauthentic" blacks or other supposed traitors. What was it that Harry Belafonte said the other week? That blacks who work for the Bush administration are, in effect, "house slaves," akin to the high-ranking Jews in the Hitler regime (never mind that no such Jews existed).

The chickenhawk charge is the misapplication of the same faulty logic. There are war heroes who oppose the war, and there are war heroes who supported it. John Keegan is the greatest living military historian, and he never saw a day of battle. George McGovern flew 35 combat missions in World War II. I'll take Keegan's guidance on military matters over McGovern's any day.

Recently, desperate Democrats championed the campaign of Paul Hackett, an Iraq-war veteran running for Congress in Ohio, because he opposed the war and called the president an S.O.B. Just as others had done before with Wesley Clark and Max Cleland, Hackett's supporters suddenly declared that their hand-picked veteran had the indisputable, irrefutable moral authority to say what other anti-Bush liberals had been saying all along. But how does that make the content of those charges any more — or for that matter, less — accurate?

Maureen Dowd wrote of Sheehan in the New York Times this week that "the moral authority of parents who bury children killed in Iraq is absolute." This is either a sincere but meaningless platitude or it's a charge made in grotesquely bad faith. Surely Dowd recognizes that there are a great many mothers of fallen soldiers who believe the war was worthwhile. Is their moral authority absolute, too? If so, then moral authority can't really be very relevant to public debates. Or does Dowd claim that only those moms-of-the-fallen who say things critical of George Bush have absolute moral authority?

If that's the case, does Dowd truly believe — as Sheehan seems to — that this war was fought to line the pockets of Texas oilmen and to serve the interests of a treasonous Zionist cabal inside the United States? I think that's batty, and I'd need proof to believe it. Mrs. Sheehan's word isn't good enough for me on anything — save the fact that she loved her son.

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