i know every one wants there LS to be fast what about suspension ?

ok so i cant find bushing for this car WTF, E.S doesnt have a kit or i cant find one, autozone.com doesnt list any bushing or anything i'm about to shoot myself.....lol........... i got a set of 17's for a real good price i'll up load the pic once i get home. now to my question lol, any body know a good bushing company that would have LS parts???? or am i going to the dealer for this???????
 
zintkala said:
"my LS8 will out dance most any sport compact...."

Not trying to rain on anyones parade and I'm glad that you are enthusiastic about your car but PLEASE....let's get realistic here. While the LS is a very well engineered car that handles better than most in it's segment IT IS NOT A RACE CAR! With all of the standard tweaks and good rubber they can be very capable and entertaining cars to drive while still being somewhat comfortable and refined. The biggest problem is size and weight. Pure and basic physics. My car, with the mods below, stock suspension and a good alignment pulled .91G on a skid pad and has been run through it's paces on both a road course and AutoX course. While it surprised everyone with how well it ran, it's limitations were also very evident. First off the car is underpowered. Not the fault of the motor, (mine is making around 1.3 hp/ci, VERY good numbers for any NA motor) but at 3.9L it is simply too small. The stock brakes with drilled/slotted rotors, SS brake lines, good fluid and Porterfield R4-S pads will get you some very good stopping distances for a few runs. But on the track it is very easy to use them up in a hurry. 4000 lbs is alot of weight to be hauling down repeatedly. Short of a Stop Tech or Wilwood big brake kit that will cost more than your car is worth and the need for custom wheels to clear them, the LS is underbraked. Tires and suspension? Again 4000lbs is alot of weight to be hauling around. Due to the cars design the largest tire that will fit is a 245F/275R without rubbing under all out track conditions. Not enough contact patch to overcome all of that PORK. In one afternoon at RIR I destroyed a set of nittos while a friends lightened M3 with the exact same tires looked hardly worn. Short of stiffer springs there is not much to do to an LS.

Reality is a good driver in a stock Golf GTI or Civic SI can run circles around your modded LS on a road course.

Respect the car for what it is. It is a LUXURY/SPORT sedan. Refined, comfortable and entertaining to drive at 8/10's, push it to it's limits and it will bite you if you are not careful.

One final rant....Who cares? The limits on the LS, bone stock are already high enough that no where on the street can you reasonably explore them without seeing speeds that are going to get someone killed or put in jail. Trust me when I say that for 95% of you on this board, stock, this cars limits are higher than your ability to drive it. Without professional training and lot's of track time none of you really know how to drive any car to it's limits safely.
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OK...let me get this of my chest...are you saying that the LS is not an Auto-X or circuit car?? If thats your point then ask yourself why there was an LS running on the 2005 OLOA(One Lap Of America)...also why they are some other LS's with auto-x setups as rollcages,suspension etc. Dont get me wrong but I think your not thinking clearly about the car.

To prove my point here are several pics of my car on a local Auto-X track...I came 4th place overall beating a lot of BMW e30's,Nissan 240SX,Honda Civics and some Stock Evo's and Subarus. My best time was 1:01.254...track record is 54.3(an EVOX on Hoosiers)

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My current setup:
- Powerslot Front Rotors (about 1 year old,2 Auto-X and still going)
- OEM Motorcraft Rear Rotors
- Akebono ProACT Pads (1 year old and stll going with half life
- Stop-Tech SS Brake Lines
- Energy Suspension Sway Bar Bushings
- Bridgestone Potenza RE050 (245/45/17) Tires (Bought used for $50 each with 3/4 of tread left)
- Motul RBF 600 Brake Fluid
- Stock Alignment Setup

I didnt spend $1,000 on this and got a killer setup not to mention response on braking and steering on or off the track
 
OK...let me get this of my chest...are you saying that the LS is not an Auto-X or circuit car?? If thats your point then ask yourself why there was an LS running on the 2005 OLOA(One Lap Of America)...also why they are some other LS's with auto-x setups as rollcages,suspension etc. Dont get me wrong but I think your not thinking clearly about the car.
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Being realistic, its cause they made the car that way not cause the car is that way and they did quite a few one off things other than just springs, how many of them succeeded the point they tried to cross? What other vehicles do those LSes compete against and what rank do they hold ( not that it should even matter today as long as you have fun )?

Now Im not saying its a bad car but I really think giving the members here that do take this car seriously we would see way more come of it than we do now.
 
tubbyLS6 said:
i have a 2000 LS6 and i really dont like how the car handles. i want it to handle better. pretty much i'm asking anyone that did do there suspension to improve handleing let me know what you did or what you would do to improve it. becuase i want my car to handle better. anyone know what is a good company for sway bars, strut bars. i'm going to overhaul my suspension soon. because the ls cant keep up with my driving. also breaking. easy ways to improve the stopping power. and yes it has new rotors and pads on all for coners . but i want it to stop on a dime.
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You can try bilsteins, custom built or KW variant 3 coilovers, but the stock sport (03-06) handles good enough to race against stock scc such as gti, focus st, minis, clios or megane sports, in some fast tracks!!

And the biggest problem for an LS to be a good track car, is the auto trans... it heats fast, is slow, wont make down shiftings when needed.. etc. etc.
 
eduardoe said:
You can try bilsteins, custom built or KW variant 3 coilovers, but the stock sport (03-06) handles good enough to race against stock scc such as gti, focus st, minis, clios or megane sports, in some fast tracks!!

And the biggest problem for an LS to be a good track car, is the auto trans... it heats fast, is slow, wont make down shiftings when needed.. etc. etc.
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dammm guy this thread has been dead for almost 2 years, i think the OP had his questions answered already lol
 
hey at least for a first post, he was searching through old threads, thats a win in my book
 
to OP:
make sure you have good tires. when i bought mine it needed new tires and that made a big difference.

rather than embark on a suspension overhaul, maybe it makes sense to get a car that fits your handling needs? i mean practically and financially, it may be a better decision.

what if the results don't meet your expectations? if you try and sell the car, it will be difficult to ask for more money despite your suspension upgrades (you can ask but it may be hard to find a buyer for a car with those upgrades).
 
hey zintkala... no pics in your gallery, at least that i can see. post some pics, i like that colour.
 
mlara1129 said:
thanks but try to take the time to at least read through some of the posts first before you post.


welcome btw :p
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Idid my search before posting, and couldnt find anything about bilsteins or KW v3, i just find post about using the euro shocks, for better handling.
 
eduardoe said:
You can try bilsteins, custom built or KW variant 3 coilovers, but the stock sport (03-06) handles good enough to race against stock scc such as gti, focus st, minis, clios or megane sports, in some fast tracks!!

And the biggest problem for an LS to be a good track car, is the auto trans... it heats fast, is slow, wont make down shiftings when needed.. etc. etc.
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I 100 percent agree. The car handles very well as it is. Most of time, it's actually the drivers who need better driving skills without even realizing it.
 
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