John Kerry, the Traitor

[ToddG]

The other thing that I didn't like about Kerry was his mindset on terrorism. He viewed it as mainly a law-enforcement problem and not a real war like Bush did. I think approaching the issue from a law-enforcement standpoint is wrong, especially in light of the terror attacks starting from the US barracks bombings back in the Reagan administration. September 11, 2001 brought into sharp focus the nature of the enemy and the nature of this fight.

I think Kerry's law enforcement approach stems from the fact that he basically thinks like a diplomat and not a warrior. His father was in the US Foreign Service, and he now serves on the Senate Foreign Relations committee. Yes, I know he served in Vietnam, but if you look at his total life story from start of college to today, his military service is more of an anomoly. He was against the Vietnam war both before and after he served, and he was against the first Gulf War in 1991. Diplomats like to search for, well, diplomatic solutions to problems with dialogue and avoid conflict, and that is what you see in Kerry's behavior and approach to issues. While that approach can work in many instances, it won't work with terrorists because they don't think that way... they want to kill us. You cannot negotiate with these bastards, you simply have to kill them before they kill more Americans.

 

[Vitas]

The other thing that I didn't like about Kerry was his mindset on terrorism. He viewed it as mainly a law-enforcement problem and not a real war like Bush did. I think approaching the issue from a law-enforcement standpoint is wrong, especially in light of the terror attacks starting from the US barracks bombings back in the Reagan administration. September 11, 2001 brought into sharp focus the nature of the enemy and the nature of this fight.

DEAD FACT.

 

[JohnnyBz00LS]

Not correct. All we are asking for is proof. If you are going to make an accusation, back it up. If you read what McCain said, he said 'apparently' we are holding people. OK, if that is 'apparently' the case; places, names, pictures, ala Abu Graib would be appreciated.

Is Mccain hurting or helping our War on Terror. I would argue he is hurting it. Maybe he doesn't even realize it. His problem is he doesn't if he is conservative or liberal. He sail swings whichever way the wind blows. He would make a terrible C.I.C.

Your RWWs heads are so far up your a-s-s you wouldn't recognize "proof" if it slapped you in the face. The pictures in the newspapers and the court-marshalls of the military personnel for tortuing prisoners isn't enough for you?? The only explanation for your position is pure unadulterated IGNORANCE. Go buy a clue, dude.

McCain is about the only republican I have any respect for because he tells it like it IS. He's seen the inside of POW prisons. He knows what it's like on the inside. Unlike GW and Cheney who've never seen combat action. WTF would they know about how to execute a war?? Not a friggin thing. And Iraq is PROOF of THAT! Even GW is slowly coming to that realization, why can't you??

 

[MonsterMark]

The pictures in the newspapers and the court-marshalls of the military personnel for tortuing prisoners isn't enough for you??

. Having a doggy bark at you is torture but having your head chopped off in front of a video camera is not. Give me a frikkin break.

As far as McCain, he understands that it is important for the world not to view the US as torturers. I would be willing to bet that the US has the best facilities and treatment of ANY prison camp for terrorists in the world. For terrorists being the KEY word.

 

[fossten]

Let's break this down.

Your RWWs heads are so far up your a-s-s you wouldn't recognize "proof" if it slapped you in the face.

Ad hominem attack.

The pictures in the newspapers and the court-marshalls of the military personnel for tortuing prisoners isn't enough for you??

Debatable, weak fact assumes photos are of actual torture. Humiliation, maybe, but not torture.

The only explanation for your position is pure unadulterated IGNORANCE. Go buy a clue, dude.

Ad hominem attack.

McCain is about the only republican I have any respect for because he tells it like it IS. He's seen the inside of POW prisons. He knows what it's like on the inside.

But he's never seen the inside of Club Gitmo or any of our OWN so-called prisons, so how does that qualify him to accuse his own country?

Unlike GW and Cheney who've never seen combat action. WTF would they know about how to execute a war?? Not a friggin thing.

Ad hominem attack, ignorant neglect of the fact that GENERALS are running the war.

And Iraq is PROOF of THAT! Even GW is slowly coming to that realization, why can't you??

Baloney fed you by the traitor leaders and swallowed whole.

It's interesting how you sit back and watch TV and that automatically makes you smarter and more qualified to pass judgment on Iraq than the people who are ACTUALLY OVER THERE.

 

[ToddG]

Unlike GW and Cheney who've never seen combat action. WTF would they know about how to execute a war?? Not a friggin thing. And Iraq is PROOF of THAT! Even GW is slowly coming to that realization, why can't you??

Cheney was Secretary of Defense during the first Gulf War, and worked extensively with Gen. Norman Schwartzkopf and Gen. Colin Powell to plan and execute the operations. To say Cheney has no experience on how to execute a war is simply flat wrong.

 

[MonsterMark]

Cheney was Secretary of Defense during the first Gulf War,

Well I guess that deserves an *owned* smiley!

 

[TheDude]

. Having a doggy bark at you is torture but having your head chopped off in front of a video camera is not. Give me a frikkin break.

As far as McCain, he understands that it is important for the world not to view the US as torturers. I would be willing to bet that the US has the best facilities and treatment of ANY prison camp for terrorists in the world. For terrorists being the KEY word.

I don't think he was referring to a dog barking when he implied the Abu Gharib pictures. Forcing someone to stand naked on a bucket while doing an impersonation of a crucifixion is torture, making a bunch of guys get naked and pose in homosexual sex 'styles' while taking pictures of them is torture. Putting a leash on a naked guy and making him crawl around like your dog is torture. The pictures exist for you to see.

Who's saying that the beheadings of American's is not?

 

[MonsterMark]

I don't think he was referring to a dog barking when he implied the Abu Gharib pictures. Forcing someone to stand naked on a bucket while doing an impersonation of a crucifixion is torture, making a bunch of guys get naked and pose in homosexual sex 'styles' while taking pictures of them is torture. Putting a leash on a naked guy and making him crawl around like your dog is torture. The pictures are there for you to see.

Who's saying that the beheadings of American's is not?

I'm saying that if you believe putting a naked guy on a leash is torture, I say torture them all. Man, when the US gets hit again, I can't wait for what the lefties will have to say.

Of btw, here is what ABC news said about Cheney in an article today.


But before becoming Bush's vice president, Cheney may have been most familiar to the public as defense secretary under the former President Bush. In that post, he earned widespread praise for his handling of the Gulf War in 1991.

 

[TheDude]

I'm saying that if you believe putting a naked guy on a leash is torture, I say torture them all. Man, when the US gets hit again, I can't wait for what the lefties will have to say.

Of btw, here is what ABC news said about Cheney in an article today.


But before becoming Bush's vice president, Cheney may have been most familiar to the public as defense secretary under the former President Bush. In that post, he earned widespread praise for his handling of the Gulf War in 1991.

Man, you paint a horrible picture of America.... If America gets hit again (while we're in Iraq), who is to blame, the lefties or the Bush admin thats currently in charge of protecting America?

 

[JohnnyBz00LS]

. Having a doggy bark at you is torture but having your head chopped off in front of a video camera is not. Give me a frikkin break.

Having your head chopped off in front of a video camera is MURDER. Big friggin difference genius.

 

[JohnnyBz00LS]

Let's break this down.


Ad hominem attack.

Cop-out.

Debatable, weak fact assumes photos are of actual torture. Humiliation, maybe, but not torture.

Cop-out.

Ad hominem attack.

Cop-out.

But he's never seen the inside of Club Gitmo or any of our OWN so-called prisons, so how does that qualify him to accuse his own country?

Cop-out.

Ad hominem attack, ignorant neglect of the fact that GENERALS are running the war.

Cop-out.

Baloney fed you by the traitor leaders and swallowed whole.

It's interesting how you sit back and watch TV and that automatically makes you smarter and more qualified to pass judgment on Iraq than the people who are ACTUALLY OVER THERE.

LAME Cop-out.