John McCain Supports Hatred Against Catholics and Jews

[Maxb49]

More than a week after John McCain’s endorsement by the anti-Catholic, anti-Semitic pastor John Hagee, the media continues to give the GOP nominee a free pass.

Consider the following pronouncements by Hagee, the man who McCain proudly introduced as an ally last week.

On Jews:

It was the disobedience and rebellion of the Jews, God’s chosen people, to their covenantal responsibility to serve only the one true God, Jehovah, that gave rise to the opposition and persecution that they experienced beginning in Canaan and continuing to this very day.

And:

How utterly repulsive, insulting, and heartbreaking to God for his chosen people to credit idols with bringing blessings he had showered upon the chosen people. Their own rebellion had birthed the seed of anti-Semitism that would arise and bring destruction to them for centuries to come.

On gays:

All hurricanes are acts of God, because God controls the heavens. I believe that New Orleans had a level of sin that was offensive to God, and they are — were recipients of the judgment of God for that. The newspaper carried the story in our local area that was not carried nationally that there was to be a homosexual parade there on the Monday that the Katrina came. And the promise of that parade was that it was going to reach a level of sexuality never demonstrated before in any of the other Gay Pride parades. So I believe that the judgment of God is a very real thing. I know that there are people who demur from that, but I believe that the Bible teaches that when you violate the law of God, that God brings punishment sometimes before the day of judgment. And I believe that the Hurricane Katrina was, in fact, the judgment of God against the city of New Orleans.

Hagee, of course, is also a virulent anti-Catholic, who has suggested that the pope is the anti-Christ, and that Adolf Hitler’s anti-Semitism was the result of being educated at a Catholic school.

One would think that when a leading presidential candidate proudly touts the support of such a figure, the issue would receive close scrutiny from the press. But last week, once McCain assured reporters that, just because Hagee was endorsing him, it didn’t mean he agreed with everything Hagee said, the mainstream media essentially let the matter drop. Chalk another up for the Straight-Talking candidate.

That’s all the more remarkable given the high-profile grilling Barack Obama has received on the subject of Louis Farrakhan. In a recent Democratic debate, Tim Russert asked Obama to reject Farrakhan’s support. And in January, Washington Post columnist Richard Cohen drew attention to the fact that a magazine controlled by Obama’s pastor had given an award to the Nation of Islam founder.

But so far, neither Russert nor anyone else at NBC News has seen fit to press McCain on the subject, and Cohen hasn’t chosen to write about it. And remember, Obama did nothing to solicit Farrakhan’s support, while McCain actively sought Hagee’s and appeared on stage with him.

We’ve asked both NBC News and Cohen whether they plan to, given their concern about Obama’s Farrakhan “ties,” and will let you know what we hear.

http://www.cjr.org/campaign_desk/the_mccainhagee_connection_1.php

 

[fossten]

I've got news for you Max, most of what Hagee claims is supported and even blatantly stated in the Bible. So the author of that article is clearly a Christian hater and an ignoramus.

 

[Maxb49]

I've got news for you Max, most of what Hagee claims is supported and even blatantly stated in the Bible.

Sorry Fossten, facts are facts, Hagee is a Catholic hater, McCain needs the Catholic vote that's what got Bush elected and Catholics aren't going to tolerate yours and McCain's hatred for them.

 

[Kbob]

Sorry Fossten, facts are facts, Hagee is a Catholic hater, McCain needs the Catholic vote that's what got Bush elected and Catholics aren't going to tolerate yours and McCain's hatred for them.

The article posted above that postulates McCain being anti-Catholic because one of his supporters may be is very weak. Obviously the conclusion that you're hoping people will make is that Obama's relationship with his pastor is no worse than McCain's with Hagee. One relationship is plainly motivated by politics (McCain), whereas the other seems much deeper in nature (Obama), and thus of more concern.

"Catholics aren't going to tolerate yours and McCain's hatred for them" ... are you on Jihad or something?

 

[Maxb49]

"Catholics aren't going to tolerate yours and McCain's hatred for them" ... are you on Jihad or something?

If McCain doesn't agree with Hagee's hate mongering against the United States' largest Christian denomination then he should reject his endorsement and financial contribution. It's a slap in the face to Catholics.

 

[Kbob]

If McCain doesn't agree with Hagee's hate mongering against the United States' largest Christian denomination then he should reject his endorsement and financial contribution. It's a slap in the face to Catholics.

Again, it's politically motivated. If Catholics were to endorse McCain and contribute, I guarantee there would be a high level meeting between Hagee and Catholics that would put this issue to rest. You could start by taking up a collection for McCain yourself

 

[Maxb49]

Again, it's politically motivated. If Catholics were to endorse McCain and contribute, I guarantee there would be a high level meeting between Hagee and Catholics that would put this issue to rest. You could start by taking up a collection for McCain yourself

McCain was the p**** who alienated Catholics with Hagee. I used to think highly of McCain until he openly accepted the endorsement of that shyster scumbag hate monger Hagee now he can shove it.

 

[MAC1]

Max,

I was raised Catholic and my grandmother (rest her sole) was 100% Irish Catholic. I didn't see anything in the article you posted indicating McCain is prejudice towards or hates Catholics. If you're attributing Catholic hate to McCain based on Hagee's statements, your argument that McCain is anti-Catholic is weak.

Also, which is worse, Obama's support for a clearly anti-American, anti-everything white bigot or Hagee's supposed suggestion that the Pope is the "anti-Christ"? The bottom line is that I haven't heard McCain make one comment that could be deemed anti-Catholic and McCain hasn't supported a bigot like Reverend Wright for over 20 years.

 

[Maxb49]

The bottom line is that I haven't heard McCain make one comment that could be deemed anti-Catholic and McCain hasn't supported a bigot like Reverend Wright for over 20 years.

You can dance all you like but McCain, that useless loaf, didn't reject the endorsement nor support of the anti-Catholic anti-Semitic fraudulent snake oil salesman John Hagee. That little fat "preacher" (dare I call him "Reverend") is an instrument of evil an hatred and he and McCain can go to hell.

 

[MonsterMark]

I think McCain 'donated' $20,000 to Hagee's ministry last year.

On top of that, he sat in Church every Sunday listening and nodding his head.

McCain also had his marriage presided over by Hagee.

Even had his kids baptized by the Christian hater.

And I'm sure they shared a few meals together also.

 

[MAC1]

I think McCain 'donated' $20,000 to Hagee's ministry last year.

On top of that, he sat in Church every Sunday listening and nodding his head.

McCain also had his marriage presided over by Hagee.

Even had his kids baptized by the Christian hater.

And I'm sure they shared a few meals together also.

What was McCain nodding his head in agreement at?

 

[Maxb49]

I think McCain 'donated' $20,000 to Hagee's ministry last year.

On top of that, he sat in Church every Sunday listening and nodding his head.

McCain also had his marriage presided over by Hagee.

Even had his kids baptized by the Christian hater.

And I'm sure they shared a few meals together also.

Don't give a **** what other people did I'm a Catholic and I'm not going to eat crap so that old fart can waste the winter of his life in the White House he should have shown the largest Christian denomination in this country some more respect so screw him.

 

[Kbob]

What was McCain nodding his head in agreement at?

Bryan is being satirical. McCain did none of that, unlike Obama.

 

[Maxb49]

Bryan is being satirical. McCain did none of that, unlike Obama.

Well thank you for pointing out satire, because I've never heard of what that word means and had no idea what Bryan was doing. I replied with:

"Don't give a **** what other people did I'm a Catholic and I'm not going to eat crap so that old fart can waste the winter of his life in the White House he should have shown the largest Christian denomination in this country some more respect so screw him."

The point I'm trying to get across Kbob is that this Hagee guy is known for hateful, inflammatory remarks against large portions of Americans. The standards of acceptability should be applied across the board. Obama's preacher got enough press time. Many Catholics are far more insulted by this personal attack against them. No one's blaming you for Hagee. This is about McCain and his buddy Hagee.

 

[Kbob]

Well thank you for pointing out satire, because I've never heard of what that word means and had no idea what Bryan was doing.

I quoted Mac, not you. I honestly thought he mistook Bryan's post. Cut me some slack here, man.

I've already stated my point in post #4 above.

 

[MAC1]

I quoted Mac, not you. I honestly thought he mistook Bryan's post. Cut me some slack here, man.

I've already stated my point in post #4 above.

Actually, I wasn't sure if Bryan was posting an anti-McCain statement. That's why I asked him to clarify what McCain said. I'm not too knowledgeable about this McCain anti-Catholic stuff. I just Googled for "Hagee" and now I understand who he is. I've watched Hagee on TV a number of times, particularly when he talks about prophecy and the end times.

 

[Maxb49]

I quoted Mac, not you. I honestly thought he mistook Bryan's post. Cut me some slack here, man.

I've already stated my point in post #4 above.

Sorry about that.

 

[Maxb49]

I'm not too knowledgeable about this McCain anti-Catholic stuff. I just Googled for "Hagee" and now I understand who he is. I've watched Hagee on TV a number of times, particularly when he talks about prophecy and the end times.

It's really frightening stuff. The guy's either whacked or exploiting Christianity for money; either is bad. The honest to goodness truth is that I had a high opinion of McCain before this, and like most politicians from both parties, he disappointed me.

 

[MonsterMark]

The honest to goodness truth is that I had a high opinion of McCain before this, and like most politicians from both parties, he disappointed me.

Ah, but the question is... Do Hillary and Obama disappoint you more?

This is definitely the 'lesser of 3 evils' election.

We can only go from fair, to poor, to worst.

 

[Maxb49]

Ah, but the question is... Do Hillary and Obama disappoint you more?

Let me put it this way. Hillary and McCain disappoint me equally in different respects. I don't see Obama as the greatest politician ever, but I voted for him in the Democratic primary because all in all he's competent and not a Clintonista. If Hillary was matched against McCain I planned on voting for McCain until I saw this and frankly I don't know how I would vote in that case.

 

[Calabrio]

but I voted for him in the Democratic primary because all in all he's competent and not a Clintonista.

And you make that conclusion concerning his judgment based on what?

 

[Maxb49]

And you make that conclusion concerning his judgment based on what?

By virtue of the fact that he is a competent attorney. Look, we have to disillusion ourselves from the myth of the monarchical executive branch. It's an administrative branch designed by our Founding Fathers to be able to be administered by any competent person.

 

[MonsterMark]

The fact that he is a liar has no impact on you, huh?

 

[Calabrio]

By virtue of the fact that he is a competent attorney. Look, we have to disillusion ourselves from the myth of the monarchical executive branch. It's an administrative branch designed by our Founding Fathers to be able to be administered by any competent person.

In all candor, I have never heard anything that would indicate Obama was a good attorney or even a competent one. He was an associate attorney at a Chicago law firm. Does that make him President material? Frankly, I don't have much respect or regard for attorneys- and I say that having a number of friends who happen to be ivy league trained attorneys.

Is he a better attorney than Hillary?

Does a law degree really represent EXECUTIVE responsibility, or simply the ability to disregard ethics and talk out of both sides of your mouth?

Should every attorney be President? Because it seems like you have a pretty low standard.

 

[MAC1]

In all candor, I have never heard anything that would indicate Obama was a good attorney or even a competent one. He was an associate attorney at a Chicago law firm. Does that make him President material? Frankly, I don't have much respect or regard for attorneys- and I say that having a number of friends who happen to be ivy league trained attorneys.

Is he a better attorney than Hillary?

Does a law degree really represent EXECUTIVE responsibility, or simply the ability to disregard ethics and talk out of both sides of your mouth?

Should every attorney be President? Because it seems like you have a pretty low standard.

An associate attorney is generally someone who works under the supervision of, or with a member attorney. An associate attorney is the lowest ranking attorney in a law firm environment. It generally goes from "associate" to "member", to "managing" attorneys or "partner" who run the firm. Obviously, law firms can have their own ranking system, but in general to say that Barack proves he is competent to be president of the United States based on being an associate counsel at a Chicago law firm is a stretch to say the least. Many members of Congress are lawyers and some were high priced lawyers, but that doesn't mean they are competent leaders and legislatures. LOL