Actually, these cars are dealer created gimmicks. Just like the vinyl tops. Dealers don't get cars that they don't intend to sell.
LS makes a SS?
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Actually, these cars are dealer created gimmicks. Just like the vinyl tops. Dealers don't get cars that they don't intend to sell.
Eliot_Ness_Ls
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Actually....dealers owned them! It was for the big up dealers..it was meant for them to own, had nothing to do with selling them. But the car in the pic IS NOT one of them, its just some guy BS his way to a sale.
Like I said, all the limited cars came with was a leather registration holder/folder..some extra stuff to read..ETC.. oh and some aftermarket wheels of a low quality brand MHT's I think to be exact. They just looked nicer than most factory sets. If you think a salesman went out and did this to a bunch of cars so they can sell them your an idiot.
Oh and the red emblems, I forgot about those. If you own a 2000 LS like I do you can see the pic of the dealer special limited car on the cover of one of the quick reference booklets. I'm not sure about other years coming with the same booklet, they may have.
Like I said, all the limited cars came with was a leather registration holder/folder..some extra stuff to read..ETC.. oh and some aftermarket wheels of a low quality brand MHT's I think to be exact. They just looked nicer than most factory sets. If you think a salesman went out and did this to a bunch of cars so they can sell them your an idiot.
Oh and the red emblems, I forgot about those. If you own a 2000 LS like I do you can see the pic of the dealer special limited car on the cover of one of the quick reference booklets. I'm not sure about other years coming with the same booklet, they may have.
Having been to the factory and talking to the Vice President of Marketing, Lincoln, I think I know a thing or two.
My local dealer does this all the time! They have a MkZ on their lot now with some cheesy aftermarket 20" wheels. It isn't the salesmen that do this, the GM has it done. ALL the cars, except for the personal employee cars and manufacturer owned "lent" cars (and I don't mean this type) a dealer has on their lot are for sale. That's how they make money.
Lincoln NEVER sent one of these cars from the factory. It is a well known fact that dealers do this type of thing all over the country to try and make more $$$ on the car. It is nothing more than a gimmick.
So, in your words, I guess I'm an idiot.
Eliot_Ness_Ls
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Sure, do you know what kind of trouble these dealerships can get in when some one finds out the car isn't what they say it is?
Thats nuts.
It was bought new and had the parts put on it and then was sold again at a dealership to the guy selling it on e-bay, probably even on consignment. Nothing more scandalous going on here like that.
So , in words that follow mine as you put it yourself. Your an idiot.
Now that we can go back to the topic, that car had that work done by some one aside from Lincoln. It is not a limited edition type car.
Thats nuts.
It was bought new and had the parts put on it and then was sold again at a dealership to the guy selling it on e-bay, probably even on consignment. Nothing more scandalous going on here like that.
So , in words that follow mine as you put it yourself. Your an idiot.
Now that we can go back to the topic, that car had that work done by some one aside from Lincoln. It is not a limited edition type car.
I had a Ford dealer near me selling an "Orange County Choppers" edition Ford F150. It had some funky graphics, add on parts and the ever so important dash badge which was numbered. I dont know if that was a promotion across the entire U.S. or just a local thing, but one HUGE difference between the OCC truck and this LS SS is the OCC was professionally done and looked like it made sense. That LS SS thing looks like a bunch of crap thrown on the car and none of it matches. The mclaren grill is different from the mesh in the lower grill. Thats not something that ANY professional custom shop would do.
Eliot_Ness_Ls
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Exactly, and thats not something a dealership would do either be it a new or used one.
VIVIDREDLSE
LVC Member
"North Shore Lincoln/Mercury" in Long Island, New York had a series of 200 of these "SS" cars (Standing for super sport) that were not from the factory, but done at the dealership to make more money. Ford had no knowlegde of their actions, but all modifications were made using OEM Parts (LSE kit, minus the front bumper) so the warranties were technically still valid. All I know is how they were done in Long Island, im sure other dealerships used the idea and modified their versions differently.
but basically its dealership, not factory, and a scam.
but basically its dealership, not factory, and a scam.
Eliot_Ness_Ls, I'll take that apology anytime. Like I've been saying (BTW, when did you ever view the cars being built on the assembly line?), these cars are modified by the dealers, who can pretty much do whatever they want with the car after they purchase it from the factory. Do you really think those stupid carriage tops come from the factory? When advised about LSes seen with these tops, the VP promised to break the legs of any dealer he caught doing that. He said they could do whatever they want to any other car, but the LS was to be left alone!
Again, when have you been to Wixom?? It was a wonderful experience to see our LSes being built. You wouldn't believe how close the tolerance is when the body is mated to the "frame". Incidentally, know what that section is called?
I guess we'll see what kind of a man you are. Can you admit when you make a mistake? I know I can.
Eliot_Ness_Ls
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I'm not gunna apologize at all. Its still not the dealership limited LS,(which is my whole argument) all of assuden this dealership has all 200 of them and would waste the time AND MONEYone big thing dealers hate wasting the most on a car that might not sell.
And I don't believe that a dealership would waste money on something that might not make that money back, plus why the hell would they not complete the body kit?
And what the hell sense does this make?
Who cares were you've been, I guess they told you about this SS LS at Wixom rght? And what does that have to do with the body kit and this car not being completed?
And I don't believe that a dealership would waste money on something that might not make that money back, plus why the hell would they not complete the body kit?
And what the hell sense does this make?
Who cares were you've been, I guess they told you about this SS LS at Wixom rght? And what does that have to do with the body kit and this car not being completed?
VIVIDREDLSE
LVC Member
ok, you know what they say about arguing online
so this is actually kind of funny
but in all honesty, ford would never produce or okay a project like this.
and dealerships do waste time and money if it means they can make more back (ever heard of Galpin Auto Sport?) but anyway, everyones entitled to their opinion, and mine is that factory or dealer (which it is dealer), the SS is a dumb name for a ford product and not as great looking as the LSE or any real LS.
so this is actually kind of funny
but in all honesty, ford would never produce or okay a project like this.
and dealerships do waste time and money if it means they can make more back (ever heard of Galpin Auto Sport?) but anyway, everyones entitled to their opinion, and mine is that factory or dealer (which it is dealer), the SS is a dumb name for a ford product and not as great looking as the LSE or any real LS.
NYC LS8
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Dealerships do this sort of thing all the time. They do it with the ragtops you see on Mark VIIIs, the ASC moonroofs on the Mark VIIs, etc. There was even an episode of "Unique Whips" where Will hooked up with a South or North Carolina Mercedes dealer to customize the car for them to sell on the showroom floor.
There's the rub. I would bet they only did this to a handful and then put the fake badge on.
Yea, we saw start to on the truck manufacture. The only "non-stock" LS that ever came out of the factory was the LSE.
Dude, believe what you want.
Don't tell anyone, but the earth is round......
VIVIDREDLSE
LVC Member
nice use of shakespeare
Quik LS
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LSVIPDEMON or Eliot_Ness_Ls --- what makes you believe they ever made 200?
NYC LS8
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:lol::Beer
VIVIDREDLSE
LVC Member
im neither of those people, but my grandfather owned an "SS"
and inside was a custom plate saying "Lincoln LS Super Sport, Limited Edition 003/200" thats just for one dealership though, so there are probably many more from other dealerships.
btw, quik i am amazed by your LS and have been for some time. It is truly amazing what you have done with the V8.
and inside was a custom plate saying "Lincoln LS Super Sport, Limited Edition 003/200" thats just for one dealership though, so there are probably many more from other dealerships.
btw, quik i am amazed by your LS and have been for some time. It is truly amazing what you have done with the V8.
HyeLifeLS
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This ain't no SS, the real LINCOLN LS SS has tricycle mirrors.
Oh no you didnt bring back the ol' bicycle mirror thing !!!! That clown left some rather childish remarks in my profile about that. Pretty lame. I think i'm about done argueing about how stupid the SS is, but regarding the 200 cars thing, what in the world would ANY dealer be doing with 200 LS's on their lot. I'll make a bet there isnt a but a few dealers in the whole country that sold 200 regular LS's in any given year let alone 200 of those SS things. Regardless of where or when or how that SS was made i think the whole point of this thread is that it doesnt make it $.01 more valuable than any other LS. I have found that unless your selling to some kid most people dont buy cars with all kinds of mods done to them, if anything it makes them harder to sell or trade.
Dealerships do this, though not as often or on as large a scale as in the past; it was incredibly common in the late '60s for dealerships to create their own special packages. The Galpin Fords and Yenko Chevrolets are some of the more famous examples, but they're far from the only ones to do it.
glanga
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Who cares. The idiot didn't sell the car anyway.
NYC LS8
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LOL
Funny how he hasn't been back since the 9th, a little after my reply above....:shifty:
glanga
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You guys have to read this!!!! I sent the guy who was selling this an ebay message and this is what he replied with.....
"Well I just did some research on the LS that you had to intervene and call false, well YOUR 100% WRONG it is an authentic limited edition numbered vehicle produced by Lincoln as a factory limited edition car.
It was called the Discovery 1 only offered in 2002 of which only 200 were ever produced featuring a different front grill package and special rear bumper (which is actually a Razzi piece) and lower front bumper.
How did I find this out, I called Ford customer Services who put me in touch with Ford research who verified the limited production of this numbered vehicle, though there technical research right off of the vin number on the car.
Next time to jump on and call someone you don?t know fake do your research first! "
"Well I just did some research on the LS that you had to intervene and call false, well YOUR 100% WRONG it is an authentic limited edition numbered vehicle produced by Lincoln as a factory limited edition car.
It was called the Discovery 1 only offered in 2002 of which only 200 were ever produced featuring a different front grill package and special rear bumper (which is actually a Razzi piece) and lower front bumper.
How did I find this out, I called Ford customer Services who put me in touch with Ford research who verified the limited production of this numbered vehicle, though there technical research right off of the vin number on the car.
Next time to jump on and call someone you don?t know fake do your research first! "
HyeLifeLS
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Glanga, did he say anything about the mirrors?
glanga
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No, nothing about them. I think hes full of crap. I don't beleive him at all that he called "Ford Research"
I sent this back to him.
Lincoln never authorized or knew about these "Limited Editions." The only way this car would come to be is from a dealership such as North Shore Lincoln/Mercury in Long Island making it. But you got it used from Burns Lincoln/Mercury. It's a gimmick just like landaeu tops on them. No Ford or Lincoln desinger would name a Ford product an "SS" which is clearly a Chevrolet moniker. No wonder you didn't sell the car. Its just like the Galpin Fords and Yenko Chevrolets. Sorry but I don't beleive that you called and they said this. Good luck trying to sell it.
I sent this back to him.
Lincoln never authorized or knew about these "Limited Editions." The only way this car would come to be is from a dealership such as North Shore Lincoln/Mercury in Long Island making it. But you got it used from Burns Lincoln/Mercury. It's a gimmick just like landaeu tops on them. No Ford or Lincoln desinger would name a Ford product an "SS" which is clearly a Chevrolet moniker. No wonder you didn't sell the car. Its just like the Galpin Fords and Yenko Chevrolets. Sorry but I don't beleive that you called and they said this. Good luck trying to sell it.
This whole LS SS thing keeps taking some funny twists. I wonder if he'll run another auction stating his new found information. So i guess from his new info it really ISNT a "SS" but a "Discovery 1" so why the super sport on the badge? But he still has some odd statements. He still claims this is something produced by Lincoln, about the only thing that was produced by Lincoln was the factory LS that the crap was added too. Next he says a "special grill package", its the mclaren grill which if i am correct never had anything to do with Lincoln, totally aftermarket. "Special rear bumper"....i dont find one peice out of a whole kit being special, "lower front bumper"....its a peice of mesh added to a stock bumper. Oh well, he's still showing he's clueless. I'll bet his Ford Research he contacted was the idoit dealer that he bought it from.