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Wow... one of the greatest sites I've ever found, and I've probably been close to that "end of the internet" site that guy found on the commercial a few years ago.
I'm John, a business student at East Carolina University in Greenville NC. I own, (that's own as in finally paid the damn thing off) a 2002 LSV8, black on white with the chrome 17's and the premium package (I think). I'm usually broke, leaving me to work on my own car, I've done the caliper and rotor replacement on the rear when advancetrac locked them up and burnt them to hell, the valve cover gasket replacement, and other minor stuff, including that damn R134 refill. I bought it in August of 2005 with 35,000 miles, now it has 124,000. Got a pretty decent price, but I had my issues with the dealer, Vantage Lincoln Mercury in Charlotte NC, they f*ed me good on an IOU for a ding on the rear door. Made the dent worse and I told them to fix it, they repainted the door in the parking lot. The paint doesn't match, I've got orange peel coming through, clear coat is peeling, and I had to get the entire car buffed after they finished because of clearcoat overspray over the whole thing.

I also own (well the bank owns it right now) a 2005 Yamaha Roadstar Warrior, which, if you aren't familiar with them, are incredible bikes. Maroon with black flames, stock. Don't know which I like better, the bike or the car.

Since I'm here among fellow enthusiasts I might as well state my issues and ask the questions I joined up to ask.

* The drivers side heated seat doesn't work, well it works just a little, but barely warms enough to feel. Passenger side is fine. Any ideas?

* Very annoying problem of which I would love to have the answer to. Cruise control works when it wants to. Nothing wrong with the cruise control itself, its the buttons, or rather the response to the button pushing. Sometimes it works great, usually after spending at least an hour with the car running. Sometimes half the buttons work, and sometimes accel is deccel, or off is on, or resume is cancel, so on and so forth. The radio buttons on the steering wheel are beginning to do the same thing. They get worse almost every day. Up is down, down is up, that sort of thing. Haven't pulled the wheel and taken it apart to check connections or anything, just thought someone may know something.

* Climate control doesn't work. I don't think it worked when I bought it, I just didn't check it or didn't check it correctly. Anything set above 70 degrees or so blows hot; even on manual. Here in the south, I only need heat about 3 months out of the year, so I just keep it on 60 and adjust the blower. Been doing that for two years. But I'm hot-natured and my other half is cold natured, and she b*tches incessantly about the cold in my car, so I'd love to know how to fix the dual climate control. Also, the air doesn't blow cold as ice... should it? I mean, it's 98 degrees here... I'm sure that contributes. Any ideas besides a recharge?

* The (presumably) compressor grinds for about a second when the car is turned on with the air on full blast. It will do that on the first start of the day, usually. Is there an oil recharge on these compressors? Any ideas?

* The drivers side rear window goes on and off it's track; sometimes it works perfectly, sometimes it wont go all the way up and you have to jam it up. Any ideas on quick fixes for that would be great.

* The CD changer won't eject CD's unless you press the ejecting CD down with another CD while it's ejecting... otherwise it'll get stuck and won't come out and you'll have to pull it out with a pair of needle nosed pliers. I rarely use it... I just use an iPod with an FM transmitter but I figured someone may have had and solved that problem.

* Last but not least; what parts are interchangeable on the LS's, interior parts. My seats were dyed by the stealership and the dye is peeling. Could I fit an interior from the 03-06 in there? With the bigger console and all? How about heated and cooled seats from the 03-06, slap the newer head with the controls in there? Anyone tried that? How about the pretty white face gauge cluster from the newer ones.

I'm not new to working on cars, my car before the Lincoln was an 88 Saleen Mustang convertible. Drove it to death, had 320,000 miles on the original engine when it was stolen in the summer of 05. I put 200,000 of those miles on myself. I knew that car inside out, did every bit of work on it. Everything from window and door lock actuators to radiator, brake work, clutch, heads, air conditioner, I touched it all and fixed most of it. So I have no aversion to tearing down a car and putting it back together. Hopefully I've finally found a place to get questions answered and answer questions. Look forward to it.

John
 
Did... I took control of my dad's company for a few years until he decided crack wasn't the best way to spend his money. Had to work in every state from Florida to Missouri to New York and everywhere in between.
 
The heated seat: probably a bad heating element, but you can check to make sure it is receiving a full 12v when its on with a VOM/multimeter.

Climate control issue: most likely a bad DCCV. Dual Climate Control Valve. Do search on it here. There is a write-up somewhere on this site about how to replace it.

The steering wheel controls: Bad clock spring. Not hard to do but time consuming, and requires a steering wheel puller. Part can be anywhere from $80 - $120 depending where you get it. PM one of the vendors on this site and they can probably hook you up with a pretty decent discount.

You could do an 03 - 06 interior, except for the center console. 03 - 06 has an electronic parking brake, so you'd have to swap over all the goodies required to make that work to use the console, but I'm pretty sure everything else will interchange with little or no trouble.

Oh, and the window, yank the door panel of and make sure the regulator isn't bent or loose.
And welcome aboard. :)
 
* Last but not least; what parts are interchangeable on the LS's, interior parts. My seats were dyed by the stealership and the dye is peeling. Could I fit an interior from the 03-06 in there? With the bigger console and all? How about heated and cooled seats from the 03-06, slap the newer head with the controls in there? Anyone tried that? How about the pretty white face gauge cluster from the newer ones.
Pretty much nothing electronic will cross generations (1st Gen is '00-'02; 2nd Gen is '03-'06). You can put the climate-controlled seats from a 2nd Gen LS in a 1st Gen, but I doubt you'll be able to get them to work, as the PCM can't talk to the seat climate control module. (The 2nd Gen LSes use the CAN architecture, and the PCM controls just about everything in the car.)

None of the LSes came from the factory with white-faced gauges; those are all aftermarket. Ken (GrayGhost1) sells them at LSKoncepts. See http://www.lskoncepts.com/store/lincoln-ls-reverse-white-face-el-glow-gauge-p-228.php for more on them.
 
Thanks for the help folks, really appreciate it. Once again, what a great site... I guess I'm not talking about the white 'face' gauges, but rather the white 'backlit' gauges on the 03-06. Any change that would slip into my 02?
 
Thanks for the help folks, really appreciate it. Once again, what a great site... I guess I'm not talking about the white 'face' gauges, but rather the white 'backlit' gauges on the 03-06. Any change that would slip into my 02?
The gauges themselves are definitely a no-go. Even if they physically fit, they use a different set of protocols, and the PCM won't know what to do with them--and without the gauge cluster, the car won't do anything (the odometer info is stored in the instrument cluster).

If you just want the gauge face, I don't think it will fit, but I couldn't give you a definitive answer.
 
Guess I've got another question then. The dealership dyed my seats before I bought the car. Real jam up job, wouldn't have been able to tell unless you knew what to look for, which I found out later. They dyed the fronts... only way to originally tell is because the stitches on the back seats are much more clear and visible than the stitches in the fronts, which look like they've been painted over. Not something you would ever notice unless you owned the car, or unless the drivers seat dye started peeling, like mine is. Any way I can re-dye it? What would they have used? I've talked to upholstery shops and they say there's no way to take the paint/dye off without ruining the leather. Any idea's folks?
 
Guess I've got another question then. The dealership dyed my seats before I bought the car. Real jam up job, wouldn't have been able to tell unless you knew what to look for, which I found out later. They dyed the fronts... only way to originally tell is because the stitches on the back seats are much more clear and visible than the stitches in the fronts, which look like they've been painted over. Not something you would ever notice unless you owned the car, or unless the drivers seat dye started peeling, like mine is. Any way I can re-dye it? What would they have used? I've talked to upholstery shops and they say there's no way to take the paint/dye off without ruining the leather. Any idea's folks?

I found out they did the same thing on the drivers seat in my '03. I was cleaning them with leather cleaner and all the dye just starting rubbing off. It turns out the seat didn't really match either. It took some elbow grease and the whole bottle of cleaner but it all came off. I'm still not really sure why the even dyed the seat because I can't find anything really wrong with it. Stupid. I believe I used Mequiar's Leather Cleaner but I'll have to look when I get home.
 
Just an update, I used Turtle Wax Leather Cleaner to remove the dye from the leather seats.
 
Replacing the heated seat element is easier than you think. It only takes about 3 hours to do if you get some hog ring pliers.
 
Welcome 05! Your right about LVC, the LS Guys will hook you up! Why don't you throw a pic or two of your LS and other toys in the Guys thred (url in my sig.).

It's great to have you in the LVC family!

MsM8
 

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