nice day turns to s**t

Sully I loved my XD40 compensated. Too bad it would blind you at night. I would have kept the thing, but I bought a Glock 22 and didn't have the cash without trading in the XD. Frogman is right about the comment about police officers since most officers have a triple retention holster now, meaning the gun is secured in the holster 3 different ways. Also practice is the key. You have to perform an action an ungodly amount of times to make it second nature in a high stress situation.
 
for the record... I have my NH CCW and a springfield XD 45ACP with tridium night sights (oh my god i love those) but keep a 12ga under the bed for home defence. And I am really good with my pistol! I can hyperventilate (closest thing you can get to the adrenaline of actual gun fight while on the range) and put the first ten rounds centermass kill zone. I still wouldnt grab for my pistol even though its holstered right behind my head.


Another note on home defence... teach your wife to use it and use it well. Make sure she isnt afraid of the blast. The shotgun can easily be fired from the hip. Get her used to it and make sure she can get to it too. You'd hate to go out in the middle of the night tog et jr some ccough medicine and come back to your wife being raped cause she didnt know how to use the intruderbegood stick under the bed.
 
For the record (sorry, SP, not picking on you), you people really should stop posting on the internet exactly what firearm(s) it is you own... and also where you keep them. If you have 300 plus firearms, that's one thing. If you only have a couple of them, people don't need to know what you have and where you stash them.
 
wanna know whats funny.... i was thinking the same thing as I was typing it. Thats ok...
 
Strange, I live five miles from a prison and we've never had any trouble. Then again I live in a farm community, and I think about %75 of the homes have at least one gun. I keep my SKS by my bed with a 20 round clip on my night stand

Probably the safest place to live, criminals don't want to hang around once they get out. The bad part is that all their families tend to move in, when daddy gets incarcerated.
 
meanwhile checking out the local pawn shops might help track down the TV.

The pawn shops around here are not even buying small electronics right now with the crime and theft up the way it is. The only thing they're taking in is guns and jewelry.
 
Actually, it does. It all depends where you place the rounds.



Or if you turn the bad guy's brain into mush.



Maybe they can use the FORCE?..



There you go with the blood pressure again. You ever seen someone strung on Angel Dust, leaking like faucet and still coming at you? I have.



This I agree with. Someone did a study and proved that it takes less time for someone with a knife to get into stabbing range from 20 feet away than it takes your local average cop to pull his handgun out of his holster.



I didn't get that memo. Then again, I can shoot a 50MBG rifle standing up. I know, I'm a bad mofo. haha.



Sad but true.



Wrong. You still have to practice, even with a street sweeper... shotgun... You have to know where the safety is, be able to disengage it in a panic situation, get a good idea what the pattern of the particular shotgun is, and most important, you have to be familiar with the loud sounds a shotgun makes. Last thing you want is to miss (It actually happens) with a shotgun then scare yourself with the boom.

Now, most half intelligent crooks know what a shotgun rake sounds like. Very few will want to play after they hear that sound.


All in all, I agree. Home defense, you want a shotgun. Less risk of over penetration of the walls, (it kind of sucks when you pump 10 rounds into the bad guy, and 5 of them go clean through him, then through the wall behind him and into your sleeping kids), and of course, the best reason, the "Point and Click" interface.

Oh, and Glocks are overrated.

I wasn't referring to "yourself", hell your a well trained swimming/killing machine.
I'm referring to the DIY person who thinks that waving a pistol around is gonna make some criminal stop doing something.

I agree "well placed" rounds will adequately turn a perps brains to mush, but most ordinary people cannot hit the "body" much less a cantelope sized target.
 
For the record (sorry, SP, not picking on you), you people really should stop posting on the internet exactly what firearm(s) it is you own... and also where you keep them. If you have 300 plus firearms, that's one thing. If you only have a couple of them, people don't need to know what you have and where you stash them.

well said, no need to "feed the burgulars".

I wonder how many google hits you'll find with the phrase.

"I have the glock40"..

Then if you can find out where those people live, but their message board postings.

DO NOT FEED THE BURGULARS.
 
well i'm not worried about me or my dad not hitting the target, my father was big into guns when i was little and had a very large collection and spent alot of time at turkey shoots and the range, my dad is a damn good shot, steady as hell too even under intense circumstances, and i am not worried about not hitting my mark either, i have had a few rifles in the past and i am not bad at shooting either, but me and my dad are gonna join the local range and hang out on the weekends and shoot, two of the guys i work with are members too and love going to the range so i think it could be a good time. the only thing i ever shot that really scared me and hurt me was my buddies older brother had some kind of futuristic looking rifle that could pierce 1 inch steel plate from 30 yards, not only did it throw me across the woods but i thought i broke half my upper torso after pulling the trigger, i have no idea what it was but i never touched it or talked about again, i felt like a dick after i shot it and i wanted to cry lmfao!
 
For the record (sorry, SP, not picking on you), you people really should stop posting on the internet exactly what firearm(s) it is you own... and also where you keep them. If you have 300 plus firearms, that's one thing. If you only have a couple of them, people don't need to know what you have and where you stash them.

On that note, I think rbones is casing sweet petes house right now. Check the link.

http://www.lincolnvscadillac.com/showthread.php?t=51818
 
well i'm not worried about me or my dad not hitting the target, my father was big into guns when i was little and had a very large collection and spent alot of time at turkey shoots and the range, my dad is a damn good shot, steady as hell too even under intense circumstances, and i am not worried about not hitting my mark either, i have had a few rifles in the past and i am not bad at shooting either, but me and my dad are gonna join the local range and hang out on the weekends and shoot, two of the guys i work with are members too and love going to the range so i think it could be a good time. the only thing i ever shot that really scared me and hurt me was my buddies older brother had some kind of futuristic looking rifle that could pierce 1 inch steel plate from 30 yards, not only did it throw me across the woods but i thought i broke half my upper torso after pulling the trigger, i have no idea what it was but i never touched it or talked about again, i felt like a dick after i shot it and i wanted to cry lmfao!


i think you missed most of the thread. and a rifle for home defence is more than dumb!
 
i think you missed most of the thread. and a rifle for home defence is more than dumb!

and hanging out at "turkey shoots" aint any form of training.

big whoop.. you can hit a "static target" with plenty of preperation before
"taking the shot".

static targets pose no threat...and they damned sure aint moving towards you will ill intent.
 
and hanging out at "turkey shoots" aint any form of training.

big whoop.. you can hit a "static target" with plenty of preperation before
"taking the shot".

static targets pose no threat...and they damned sure aint moving towards you will ill intent.

AMEN!!!!!!!! I wish I had a dollar for everyone who thinks they can shoot. I've taught more than my share of them how to really shoot. And like I said before, you can't simulate the adrenaline of a fight for the death. Best you can hope for is muscle memory and just knowing it cold!!!!
 
Wow... an AR 15 for home defense. Let's kill the bad guy and the neighbors. Have you seen what a .223 round does to 1/4 in steel plating at 50 yards? I wonder how much stronger plaster is...

Home defense, shotgun. Period.
 
Wow... an AR 15 for home defense. Let's kill the bad guy and the neighbors. Have you seen what a .223 round does to 1/4 in steel plating at 50 yards? I wonder how much stronger plaster is...

Home defense, shotgun. Period.

idk... i think a 50cal submachine would do the trick! :rolleyes:






home defence isnt about over kill people. Its about making the bad guy no longer able to hurt anyone in your house with out destroying your house, the people in it or your neighbors house. Anyone wonder why I said 4 bird shot insteadd of a rifle slug. smaller BBs with less weight blowing threw less of your house. further more I want to add that you have to be able to think clearly in this environment. Or you are going end up in jail or worse. Close quarter combat is NOT like on tv. Dont do anything you know how to do. Call the cops or have someone call the cops IMMEDIATELY! If they are taking to long call frogman!


I am very well trained at clearing spaces and such.... I still think its much better to get everyone into one location, back away from the only entrance and sit down with the shotgun pointed at the door while the cops are called. Then you can defend yourself if need be, but have the professionals coming to do it right.
 
Wow... an AR 15 for home defense. Let's kill the bad guy and the neighbors. Have you seen what a .223 round does to 1/4 in steel plating at 50 yards? I wonder how much stronger plaster is...

Home defense, shotgun. Period.

I have seen a lot of what an AR-15 can do...and it can do home defense wonderfully in the right hands. A shotgun is not the end-all of home defense, and my comment was simply against what was quoted, not stating it was "the best" way to go, or the only option; such as you suggest about a shotgun. :rolleyes:

home defence isnt about over kill people. Its about making the bad guy no longer able to hurt anyone in your house with out destroying your house, the people in it or your neighbors house. Anyone wonder why I said 4 bird shot insteadd of a rifle slug. smaller BBs with less weight blowing threw less of your house. further more I want to add that you have to be able to think clearly in this environment. Or you are going end up in jail or worse. Close quarter combat is NOT like on tv. Dont do anything you know how to do. Call the cops or have someone call the cops IMMEDIATELY! If they are taking to long call frogman!


I am very well trained at clearing spaces and such.... I still think its much better to get everyone into one location, back away from the only entrance and sit down with the shotgun pointed at the door while the cops are called. Then you can defend yourself if need be, but have the professionals coming to do it right.

You touch on the key point: defense over offense. In real life you do not go around clearing rooms if you truly think someone is there and prepared to hurt you. You hunker down and wait for back-up.

I think bird-shot is not quite up to the task of home defense; I much prefer #4 buck.
 
I have seen a lot of what an AR-15 can do...and it can do home defense wonderfully in the right hands. A shotgun is not the end-all of home defense, and my comment was simply against what was quoted, not stating it was "the best" way to go, or the only option; such as you suggest about a shotgun. :rolleyes:



You touch on the key point: defense over offense. In real life you do not go around clearing rooms if you truly think someone is there and prepared to hurt you. You hunker down and wait for back-up.

I think bird-shot is not quite up to the task of home defense; I much prefer #4 buck.

too big a ball is bad. bird loads are good cause it wont go through your walls AND the perp will go down but not be dead. you dont have to worry about murder charges
 
shooting a burglar in florida who breaks into your house and you end up killing them wont be murder charges anyway!!
and how did a thread i started about someone breakinginto my parents house turn into who can shoot and who cant, and what gun to have in the house and what not too lol! things always go so far off track. i'm getting a gun, if the chance ever pops up to have to shoot someone in my house who is coming at me with ill intent, we'll see if i can hit them or not, i'll worry about that if it happens.
 

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