Nology Wires

Definetly not trying to start fights. This forum has been a godsend for those of us who are not to mechanically savy.

I am trying to see the benefit in different products.


As I am merely trying to perform preventative maintenance on my vehicle to increase its longevity. And if I can't see the financial rewards vs. mechanical issues I am reluctant to make a change from the original OEM specifications.


Just my two cents..
 
CSimonGo said:
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And if I can't see the financial rewards vs. mechanical issues I am reluctant to make a change from the original OEM specifications.
Just my two cents..

You can't see gaining MPG a finacial reward?
The product being paid for from the mpg savings a finacial reward?
A LIFETIME warranty isn't a finacial reward?

Nology wires are less then 1 ohm of resistance per foot.
OEM junk has more then 1200 ohms per foot of resistance which makes it that much harder for the coil packs to get the juice to the plugs.
Coil packs will LAST longer too!

Nology wires do produce rwhp, even if its 1hp its still more then any other wire out there.

100,000 watts of spark from JUST THE WIRES alone with Nology's.
MSD digital6 and MSD wires can only deliver barely 60,000 watts with NO lifetime warranty at the cost of almost triple what Nology's go for.

They burn SO HOT that they will burn over 95% of the combustion chamber contents therefore delivering better mileage and a cleaner combustion chamber.


If you cant see that then I have no idea how much clearer it could be made.
 
FLAME ON
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Brad, you're killing me.

Somebody find some dyno results. Mpg is tough to gauge. The right foot sometimes has a mind of its own.
 
Im just messing around, for genos asking price 199 I would buy em and if they didnt work you know where he works and you could use them to hang him high in a tree and with a lifetime replacement he is going to be there awhile :Beer
 
MarkOfDeath said:

Thats funny.

Anyways so everyone arguing about spending an extra hundred bucks that will pay off in the future and give you more performance. I can see how some people see hundred dollars going out the door but then again think about in the future it is acutully beter deal.

So please everyone why can't we all agree? :wave :invasion:
 
I never said the Nology wires were a bad product. If someone gave them to me I would throw away my MSD wires but I don't have the extra $120 to spend on wires. If you have that type of cash to spend on plug wires by all means get the Nology wires because they do provide a greater spark. But keep in mind for the same price or less you can get MSD wires and coil packs...
 
95LSC32V said:
But keep in mind for the same price or less you can get MSD wires and coil packs...

MSD 8.5mm Superconductor Wires (Summit Pricing) $91.88.
MSD Coil packs (Summit Pricing) $73.88 Each, both are $147.76.
S&H from Summit Racing is $8.95.
45,000 Watts of spark with a one year warranty on both items.
For a grand total of $248.99 !!!!!!!!!

Nology plasma wires are $199.00 with $10.00 S&H.
100,000 watts of spark, WORKS WITH STOCK coil packs because it has its own built in capacitor wich delivers the 100,000 watt spark.
LIFETIME WARRANTY!
For a grand total $209.00!! Can't be beat.
 
I agree the price is good for the horsepower gain and the mileage that could technically follow, but some dyno results would be good.
 
This is what I found

http://www.mr2.com/TEXT/DavidKucharczyk/ignition.html

There has been much discussion of aftermarket ignition systems and wires on the mailing list, particularly with respect to the aftermarket Nology wires. People who have used them had varying results. Everything from massive EM interference that caused the ECU failures to cars running high boost who's owners had excellent results. Nology's print ads make claims about increased horsepower, stronger spark including numbers for arc temperature and current. The makers of the wires claim that a capacitor integrated into the wire is the secret.

I collected 4 different wires and conducted several tests and measurements on them to try and have some scientific and reproducible data. The results are surprising. The Nology wires do produce a stronger spark than a stock wire and the capacitor does have an effect. One reason that the Nology wires make a stronger spark is that they have a lower resistance than any other wire tested. With the capacitor portion of the wire disabled the wires still had the strongest spark. Grounding the capacitor wire did make the spark even stronger.

My test results were somewhat limited as I could not find an accurate way to measure the voltage and current flow due to the extremely high voltages. When the voltages become high enough, current flows can be produced by electrons bleeding off into the air or into any metal object which has significant mass. This leads to erroneous and irreproducible measurements. I'm working on building some special high voltage probes for the oscilloscope which should alleviate this problem, but for now some static measurements and pictures is all you get.

A stronger spark does not always equal more HP. If your stock ignition is reliably lighting the mixture, you can add as much spark energy as you want, but it won't make any more horsepower. To date no independent dynamometer test I know of has shown any increase in horsepower over stock wires that were working properly.

The Nology ad is reproduced below in the Test Images section. I'll let you make up your own mind regarding their claims.

http://www.magnecor.com/magnecor1/truth.htm

Ignition wires with grounded braided metal sleeves over the cable have come and gone all over the world for (at least) the last 30 years, and similar wires were used over 20 years ago by a few car makers to solve cross-firing problems on early fuel injected engines and RFI problems on fiberglass bodied cars — only to find other problems were created. The recent Circle Track Magazine (USA, May, 1996 issue) test showed Nology "HotWires" produced no additional horsepower (the test actually showed a 10 horsepower decrease when compared to stock carbon conductor wires).

The perceived effect a brighter spark, conducted by an ignition wire, encased or partially encased in a braided metal sleeve (shield) grounded to the engine, jumping across a huge free-air gap (which bears no relationship to the spark needed to fire the variable air/fuel mixture under pressure in a combustion chamber) is continually being re-discovered and cleverly demonstrated by marketers who convince themselves there's monetary value in such a bright spark, and all sorts of wild, completely un-provable claims are made for this phenomena.

Like many in the past, Nology cleverly demonstrates a brighter free-air spark containing useless flash-over created by the crude "capacitor" (effect) of this style of wire. In reality, the bright spark has no more useful energy to fire a variable compressed air/fuel mixture than the clean spark you would see in a similar demonstration using any good carbon conductor wire. What is happening in such a demonstration is the coil output is being unnecessarily boosted to additionally supply spark energy that is induced (and wasted) into the grounded braided metal sleeve around the ignition wire's jacket. To test the validity of this statement, ask the demonstrator to disconnect the ground strap and observe just how much energy is sparking to ground.

Claims by Nology of their "HotWires" creating sparks that are "300 times more powerful," reaching temperatures of "100,000 to 150,000 degrees F" (more than enough to melt spark plug electrodes), spark durations of "4 billionths of a second" (spark duration is controlled by the ignition system itself) and currents of "1,000 amperes" magically evolving in "capacitors" allegedly "built-in" to the ignition wires are as ridiculous as the data and the depiction of sparks in photographs used in advertising material and the price asked for these wires! Most stock ignition primaries are regulated to 6 amperes and the most powerful race ignition to no more than 40 amperes at 12,000 RPM.

This is what I found on the first 2 pages of google when searching for "Nology Test" there maybe some postive reviews out there but the results I found satisfy me.
 
MonsterMark said:
Brad, you're killing me.

Somebody find some dyno results. Mpg is tough to gauge. The right foot sometimes has a mind of its own.

I usually just take my mileage to and from work, since I drive a mix of city and highway, and add up the totals for a week, taking the mean average. They're pretty similar from day to day, and as reliable as anything else.
 
so can I post the 2 pictures now since there is truth behide em
 
klutch said:
This is what I found

http://www.mr2.com/TEXT/DavidKucharczyk/ignition.html



http://www.magnecor.com/magnecor1/truth.htm



This is what I found on the first 2 pages of google when searching for "Nology Test" there maybe some postive reviews out there but the results I found satisfy me.

Yeah and the second one is from their competition, c'mon now.
Also like I said before feel free to do your own test to see if the capacitor voltage being increased is true or not. (which it isn't)

Take one Nology wire and then plug in a new spark plug, start your car, look at the spark, then take a stock Motorcraft wire, or any wire for that matter and do the same and look how weak the spark is.

They also have the last ohm's per foot of ANY ignition wire on the market.

Wire Length ~Resistance ~Capacitance ~Insulation Breakdown ~Insulation Thickness:
Toyota 380mm 21 Ohms/mm 30 kV+ 7.0mm
Nology 430mm 1.2 Ohms/mm 35 pF 30 kV+ 7.6mm
Accel 785mm 11.3 Ohms/mm 30 kV+ 8.7mmGeneric 540mm 17 Ohms/mm 30 kV+ 6.9mm

Plus how do you explain mpg increase? Something positive is happening.

Also PLEASE READ THIS!! Very informative and scientific as well. Also lets see other wire companies with a CARB cert.
 
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MarkOfDeath said:
so can I post the 2 pictures now since there is truth behide em

Truth behind them huh? One is from a independant Guy who even admitted he didnt have the sources to test high capacity and higher voltages where Nology shines anyway, and the other is from their competitors.
 

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