Obama and the military...

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Thank goodness my 3rd child is too young to have to serve under Obama. No way, no how.

YouTube - Barack Obama visits marines on Christmas; met with silence

And of course we'll have to put up with his putting the troops down on a regular basis. No wonder they have no faith in this guy.
http://www.militarytimes.com/news/2008/12/military_poll_main_122908/

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As a Black NCO serving in the Army, I am very optimistic, but then I did three tours in Iraq, and one Afganistan tour. It's funny how Marines complain, they are only there for seven moths at a time, i have served no less that 13 months everytime I deployed. Never listen to LT's especially airforce lt's who are stationed in England, the only thing she needs protection from are stale crumpets. I dont think Obama can do any worse than killing 4,774 service men and women. (not including the 16 killed in the phillipines, and 20 killed in africa)
 
Funny, I could have swore the support for Barack was high.


Could just be the leftist owned media up to no good again I guess.:rolleyes:
 
lincolnx2 said:
I dont think Obama can do any worse than killing 4,774 service men and women. (not including the 16 killed in the phillipines, and 20 killed in africa)
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You are kidding, right?
Your implication that the military deaths are the purely the result of incompetence and without merit.

On a single day in September, 2,976 were killed in a series of terrorist attacks on American soil. We live in a world where an aggressive Iran is on the brink of having nuclear weapons. And you seriously ask how much worse could it be?

Perhaps you haven't been paying attention, but Obama has made some statements regarding the military during the campaign. Perhaps it was wise to not pay attention, because Obama seems like a guy who is likely to change his position. But he has said he intends to expedite the withdrawal from Iraq and then intensify the efforts in Afghanistan by simply increasing the number of soldiers on the ground there.

And despite serious concerns of the Pentagon, and their need for increased funding and manpower, Obama has expressed his desire the decimate the military budget.

You ask how much "worse" can it get...
I hope we don't find out. But if you'd really like to know, ask some of the guys who served during the Clinton years- ask them about the shortages of parts and ammo. About the limited access to training. Or about the lack of support in the field. This was at a time of perceived peace too, if you don't mind the military operations in Iraq, Bosnia, Haiti, or Somalia though.
 
Hey LincolnX2---Do you think 'HE' got tired during the time 'HE' was killing all those service people? Maybe he even had to sit down for a few minutes every once in a while.

I've been impressed by the things you've had to say, up until now, but you certainly came out with a dumb one this time!
KS
 
Basically it shows the same said disregard. Actually even greater disregard.
 
Calabrio said:
You are kidding, right?
Your implication that the military deaths are the purely the result of incompetence and without merit.

On a single day in September, 2,976 were killed in a series of terrorist attacks on American soil. We live in a world where an aggressive Iran is on the brink of having nuclear weapons. And you seriously ask how much worse could it be?

Perhaps you haven't been paying attention, but Obama has made some statements regarding the military during the campaign. Perhaps it was wise to not pay attention, because Obama seems like a guy who is likely to change his position. But he has said he intends to expedite the withdrawal from Iraq and then intensify the efforts in Afghanistan by simply increasing the number of soldiers on the ground there.

And despite serious concerns of the Pentagon, and their need for increased funding and manpower, Obama has expressed his desire the decimate the military budget.

You ask how much "worse" can it get...
I hope we don't find out. But if you'd really like to know, ask some of the guys who served during the Clinton years- ask them about the shortages of parts and ammo. About the limited access to training. Or about the lack of support in the field. This was at a time of perceived peace too, if you don't mind the military operations in Iraq, Bosnia, Haiti, or Somalia though.
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We invaded Iraq because they were capable of WMD not manufacturing like Bush said.
 
We invaded Iraq so Jr can prove to pops he was capable of not only filling in his shoes but finishing his job.
 
cammerfe said:
Hey LincolnX2---Do you think 'HE' got tired during the time 'HE' was killing all those service people? Maybe he even had to sit down for a few minutes every once in a while.

I've been impressed by the things you've had to say, up until now, but you certainly came out with a dumb one this time!
KS
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I do not mean Bush was the trigger man for every EFP (roadside bomb) but he did begin the deception that led to the invasion and occupation of Iraq.
 
lincolnx2 said:
I do not mean Bush was the trigger man for every EFP (roadside bomb) but he did begin the deception that led to the invasion and occupation of Iraq.
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Do we really need to list adnaseum the number of Democrats pontificating about Saddam's weapons of mass destruction before the Iraq invasion.

Bush was not alone in this decision. Quit rewriting history.

Do you support our involvement in Iraq?
 
You are correct he was not alone but the others were ignored. It took 2 years to draw up post war Germany plans in WWII. Bush thought he could do this join in 60 days. He had one thing on his mind.
 
You ask how much "worse" can it get...
I hope we don't find out. But if you'd really like to know, ask some of the guys who served during the Clinton years- ask them about the shortages of parts and ammo. About the limited access to training. Or about the lack of support in the field. This was at a time of perceived peace too, if you don't mind the military operations in Iraq, Bosnia, Haiti, or Somalia though.[/QUOTE]

And its funny how say there was a lack of training during Clintons administration, I had a total a 8 week basic training, 17week AIT training and reported to my unit, 1 month later i met them in Iraq, thats a total of 25 weeks of training. The following deployments i had less than 1 year to train my guys, and i only had 6 months before I left for Afganistan, so let me train you for 25 weeks and send you overseas to see how combat ready we are.
 
MonsterMark said:
Do we really need to list adnaseum the number of Democrats pontificating about Saddam's weapons of mass destruction before the Iraq invasion.

Bush was not alone in this decision. Quit rewriting history.

Do you support our involvement in Iraq?
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NO! I was ok with deploying the first two times, but then people started resigning, saying that the war in Iraq was a mistake, well a mistake is why i got little kids asking me why didn't i keep their dad safe?
 
people started resigning
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People weren't resigning unless you mean military officials themselves. Its more like peoples opinions were voiced and unappreciated and they were forced out.
 
Military officials started resigning as soon as Bush took office, Gen. Shesenki who opposed the war and refused to lie about WMD's, Gen Franks retired after he realized what a mistake the US has made, and look at all the other countries pulling out, Italy pulled their troops, Britian is leaving in May, hell their PM (Tony Blair) resigned when the Bush started burning.
 
I am curious and was wondering if there a chart similar to that regarding how the troops feel with Bush as their commander-in-chief? I googled and came up empty.;)
 
Its funny you asked that, I know the Military is suppose to be this non-biased, a everybody loves everybody brotherhood, but most Blacks welcome Obama, and Most White's liked Bush. Thats why I told my guys not to talk about religion or politics while deployed, because talking politics always resorted to "democrats support blacks" or "republicans hate black people"LOL
 
foxpaws said:
I am curious and was wondering if there a chart similar to that regarding how the troops feel with Bush as their commander-in-chief? I googled and came up empty.;)
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Im sure my 15 year old nephew can make one that looks just the same:)
 
I just dont get why some people are so opposed to Obama taking office, thsi guy has a clean slate, give him a chance to mess up. Before bush took office he had run 2 of his fathers companies into the ground, and as president the only good thing he has done was given service members a raise every year and enabled me to pay of my cars in less than 3 years. Thanks!
 
foxpaws said:
I am curious and was wondering if there a chart similar to that regarding how the troops feel with Bush as their commander-in-chief? I googled and came up empty.;)
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You probably won't find one, we are not suppose to voice our opinions about situations to media, or the general public, we support our "we will follow the orders of those appointed over us"
 
Calabrio said:
Is it necessary to have that four year old discussion over again? It doesn't even contribute anything to this discussion.

Do those single line, throw away responses help you delude yourself into thinking you're clever for making them?
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It contributes as much as this statement.

You ask how much "worse" can it get...
I hope we don't find out. But if you'd really like to know, ask some of the guys who served during the Clinton years
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Just making a point......just like you.
 
lincolnx2 said:
I just dont get why some people are so opposed to Obama taking office, thsi guy has a clean slate, give him a chance to mess up.
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One: He's a usurper. He doesn't qualify to be CIC.
Two: He is dishonest.
Three: He is unqualified in every aspect in regards to his job history.
Four: He's led a life filled with bad associations.
Five: He's a pothead and a coke-head who may still be using.
Six: He a socialist.
Seven: He believes in unilateral nuclear disarmament.
Eight: He's a racist.
Nine: He's anti-semitic.
Ten: He's so arrogant he doesn't know what he doesn't know. Under the veil lies an empty suit.
 
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