OMFGSBPS!!! I swear this car is cursed!

Oh and btw,,

Mechanics do post ads on CL for sidejobs...lots of them, I am a mechanic, I have ads in my towns CL...

If you want ME to fix your car, trailer it to me, I will charge you $50 per shop rate hour, I have every tool I need to completely rebuild a Mark8...
I will drive it to you when I am finished and you can fly me home.

And yes I said bring it to me..I have a day job...as a mechanic...you'll have to get a rental or buy a second car, which I suggest you do anyway.
 
The valve cover happened because you were being a complete idiot...you were told several times on that thread to stop what you were doing..IINM, and then you pried on a piece of metal with force, no shyt something was gonna break...
PLUS
IIRC..you even have MY personal cell number ($3.99 per minute, standard international rates apply)
most of us are here to help when we can..but do not badger us about the same problem, we are not your witness
when you have a prob, post it, we tell you a solution, you go investigate, then report back AFTER you have tried to fix the issue

and I'm not sure what kinda tool box you have yourself, but a high dollar Jack isn't a good option to start with, you can use the stock car Jack and some stands, get a cheap scanner, a set of 3/8 drive sockets from 8mm to 19mm deep and shallow, 1/2in drive sockets 12mm to 22mm shallow, pry bar ( which I know you already have) and a 5lb hammer, a set of wire di-cs and channel lock pliers, 1 or 2 of both a flat head and Phillips head screw drivers and torx bit sockets T-10 to T-50 and you just about have everything you need
 
No the rack won't take 20 minutes, the CD download will:D It is going to help you because not only does it have the correct procedures for just about everything on the car, it gives exploded diagrams on components and most of the steps along the way. It takes some getting used to find what you need sometimes, but is a great resource.
 
I found someones steering rack writeup on another site. Doesn't look that bad really:

Ok. A few lessons learned while replacing the rack.
1. Align the steering wheel as if you were driving straight down the street. Turn off the key and let the steering wheel lock, (I believe this only applies to Gen I cars).
2. Turn off the air ride switch. Loosen lug nuts to take off both front tires.
3. Jack up the front of the car using jacks. Also put jackstands as extra support.
4. Take off rims and tires. I always personally throw the tires/rims under the car because that gets them out of the way, and provides a third level of safety in case the car were to fall. You could probably get by without taking off the passenger side tire, but it just makes things easier when you are climbing in and out from under the car.
5. Loosen the locking nuts on the outboard side of each inner tie rod end. I believe that these are 22 mm, but they may be 21 mm.
6. Seperate the inner tie rod end from the outer by turning the inner tie rod end with a large pair of pliers. Be careful when the inner tie rod end seperates from the outer tie rod end, as the now-free brake assembly (without the weight of the rim and tire), will want to move away from the car, stretching the lines. I carefully allowed them to extend, but it may be a good idea to wire these to keep these from extending out all the way.
7.Disconnect the rag joint. It has two 13mm bolts, which are very visible just inboard of the drivers side front tire, that need to be removed. It is easier to remove the upper one, on the steering wheel side first, then slide the collar up, allowing you to situate the second bolt for removal.
8. Take off the two large bolts that hold the rack onto the k-member. On the driver's side bolt, you can use a deep socket through the back of the k-member. I believe the nut size was 24 mm and the bolt head was 22 mm (but I can't recall). The passenger side requires using a wrench to remove the nut, as the oil pan gets in the way for using a socket. The wrench can be inserted through the circular opening in the bottom of the k-member.
9. Remove driver's side 8mm bolt that holds down the high pressure line on the front of the rack.
10. Slide the rack toward the front of the car slightly and down about an inch (2.54 cm) to gain access to the two pressure line attachments. You will see the best access from where the driver's side tire used to be. It takes some pressure to pull the rack down, but I would not use any pry bar, as you do not want to damage or kink the metal lines. There are two ways to take the lines off. All fittings here are 18mm. I don't think I was able to use my fitting wrench here at all. You disconnect the high pressure line with a standard 18mm wrench which is between the rubber and the curved steel line. Then you may either undo the factory hose clamp with a pair of pliers on the return line, or remove the line at the rack with the 18mm wrench. I had to pull the rack twice and did it both ways. If you undo the hose clamp, you will have to pull pretty hard from the front to pop the time-hardened hose off of the line. Once these are disconnected, the rack can be carefully pulled out, making sure not to force anything to keep from damaging the metal lines.
10. Remove the metal high pressure and return lines from the rack to put on your new rack. For Gen I cars, expect to pay about $90 for a rebuilt one at an auto chain store. Your core is worth $85.
11. I also decided to replace the high pressure line. A few items of note if you do this. You have to take off all three frame mounts that hold the line to the car. All are 8mm. To take off the 18mm nut where the line attaches to the power steering pump, I got by with a standard wrench, although a crow's foot would be nice. Also, for any of the 18mm fittings, I cut a 18mm wrench in half, which allowed not only better access, but kept me from putting too much initial pressure on the fitting to keep from stripping it. You have to also remove the frame mounting brackets from the old line to transfer them to the new line. This is accomplised by first removing the metal cylinder where the 8mm bolt came out of. Then remove the rubber grommet. Finally, carefully bend the small metal tab straight and the bracket comes apart into two pieces (trust me, you'll know what I am talking about when you see these). Use the reverse precedure to put them on the new line. Also, it seems NORMAL that the pulley on the power steering pump has about 1/8 inch play forward-to-backward on the shaft. Putting the high pressure line back on the car is just the reverse of taking it off.
12. Time to put it all back together. With the new rack in hand, find the center by putting the rag joint temporarily on the rack and turning it from side to side to find the middle. The rag joint can only go on one way, as the shaft is beveled. With it in the approximate center, pull the rag joint off.
13. Put the return line metal line only on the rack. It lays between the two hard lines that are permanently on the rack. Don't worry, you cannot put the lines in the wrong holes, as they are different sizes, but both have nuts that are 18mm. Then take the high pressure metal line and attach it onto the rack, facing it toward the front of the car. Tighten both 18mm nuts snugly, but no NOT overtighten--I would guess something like 40 ft/lbs is about right (tight is tight, right?). Prepare for putting in a new hose clamp on the return line. This is where I made my mistake which caused me to pull the rack out the second time...the old clamp will probably allow the hose to leak. Take the new hose clamp and put it on the return line hose.
14. Here is the hardest part if you are doing this alone. Lift the rack back up into position to allow you to put the return line and pressure line back onto the rack. Remember, the inner tie rods go above the sway bar. It is hard to describe, but the fit is tight enough there where the rack will pretty much stay in place while you re-attach the hose lines. The best access point again is just inboard of the driver's side wheel assembly. There is an opening there which allows decent access. You should be tightening the new hose clamp on the return line, and putting the 18mm nut into the metal line on the high pressure fitting.
15. Here is the most important step (which I learned the hard way). Put power steering fluid in the reservior (sp). Once the lines are put back on and tightened, CAREFULLY start the car, being certain not to move the steering wheel. CHECK FOR LEAKS! Turn off the car.
16. Slide the rack back into place. Put on the two large bolts that hold the rack onto the k-member. You cannot over tighten these bolts.
17. Re-attach the rag joint. It is easiest to put the bottom (beveled) bolt on first, then slide the steering shaft back onto the rag joint. These bolts should also be very tight. I noticed that the factory appears to have placed lock-tite on these bolts.
18. Re-attach the 8mm high pressure line bracket that is on the driver's side of the cross member.
19. Using a large pair of pliers, attach the inner tie-rod ends to the outer on each side. Since my steering wheel and rack were both already pointed straight ahead, I tried to get the front wheels as close to straight as I could so I would be able to drive to get an alignment. The way I accomplished this was to turn the inner tie-rod until about 3/4 inch was inside the outer tie rod. I then put on the rims and tires, putting the lug nuts on as tight as I could with the tires off of the ground. I then measured with a tape measure the distance between the first groove the inside of the passenger tire to the first groove on the inside of the driver's tire. I checked the distance on the front of the tire and compared it to the distance at the back of the tire. I then turned the inner tie rod on the tire that looked like it was sticking out too much until the distance was the same. I then tightened the large locking nut somewhat (since I knew the alignment guy was going to get my car in 5 miles). It turned out I was off by 1 degree!
20. Lower the car. Tighten the lug nuts. Start the car, turn the steering wheel a few times lock-to-lock. Add power steering fluid and check for leaks again. Be amazed at how tight the steering now feels!
 
Most of it is just fluff, his comments on the job.

I'm sorry but this is just too big of a job for him with out someone there holding his hand.

Don't take this wrong.....he needs help.
Rich has told him this a long time ago.


Rich is now telling him not to beat his car or things will only get worse.

Whats his response?

Stay out of my threads.



ripped...I'm sorry but you have the hardest time figuring out good advice from bad.

Good luck man....you burn enough bridges and you will be on your own.

Listen to mespock......don't work on your car without help, don't beat your car if you need it.

There is nothing wrong with needing help, not everyone was born mechanically inclined.

As far as you and Jamie....handle that crap with PMs.
Calling out someone.....a friend that has helped you in the past... on a open forum..... that is bridge burning.

Someone did that to me.....I would tell you to never call me again.
 
I'm sorry but this is just too big of a job for him with out someone there holding his hand.

Don't take this wrong.....he needs help.
Rich has told him this a long time ago.


Rich is now telling him not to beat his car or things will only get worse.

Whats his response?

Stay out of my threads.



ripped...I'm sorry but you have the hardest time figuring out good advice from bad.

Good luck man....you burn enough bridges and you will be on your own.

Listen to mespock......don't work on your car without help, don't beat your car if you need it.

There is nothing wrong with needing help, not everyone was born mechanically inclined.

As far as you and Jamie....handle that crap with PMs.
Calling out someone.....a friend that has helped you in the past... on a open forum..... that is bridge burning.

Someone did that to me.....I would tell you to never call me again.


You're right it probably is way to big of a job for me.

I wasn't pushing away Mespocks advise, like I said in our pm's back and forth, it was the use of insulting sarcasm that made me snap back. Had it been sarcasm in good fun I would have been all for it.

The only reason I even said anything back to Jamie is everyone is getting this notion that I go running to him for help and I pester him. I just wanted it clear that is not how it is, and I do not go running to him for help. If he wanted to keep it in PM's he should have done it there. If we hung out and I mention an issue and he offers to fix it, of course I would take him up on it and take him for his word.

Jamie is a great guy and does phenomenal work. I appreciate all he has done which is why I said there are no hard feelings. Next time we hang out I won't say one word about it because it's in the past...I also won't ask him to work on my car because that is his choice. Simple as that.

Now I'm going to quietly exit this thread and start another one next time theres a problem. Hopefully people can keep the insults and flaming to a minimum. I'll take all the fun sarcastic shots they want to take at me though...I'm always up for joking around. ;)
 
I want the 20 minutes of my life back after reading this thread.

Ripped, just try to focus on 1 problem at a time. I have owned 3 marks and each started out with their own problems. Now granted, thank GOD I am mechanically inclined and I can fix this stuff myself. However, in this situation, maybe you do need to find a mechanic that will do the work on the side for you. Not everyone was meant to be able to work on their car. Everyone has a skill, I'm a technician, you could be an A/C service guy. I don't have the proper tools to fix my house A/C and you don't have the proper tools to fix your car. Stick to what your good at, because in the end, you may end up spending a lot more, case in point the VC gasket job. What if you left a bolt loose and lost your steering going down the road. Atleast if someone else is negligent and leaves something lose, you can sue their ass for it.

I am trying to be constructive here, because you seem like a nice guy. When people offer advise you have to always atleast pretend like you will keep it in mind. Because eventually, people will quit giving it. If you make threads that are factual and to the point, you will get more on topic information, and people won't have the opportunity to derail your threads because they could see you were getting mad or whatnot. Do what I do, if someone makes a stupid comment directed at me, depending on who it is, make a 'clever' reply, or pretend like you didnt even see them post. I do that with some members here...

Good luck man, I suggest however that you let someone else do it. Lastly, my first tool kit that I bought with my own money, I bought in HS, cost me I think 159.00 from Sears. I still use the sockets on a daily basis.

http://www.craftsman.com/shc/s/p_10...nt&cName=Hand+Tools&sName=Tools+Sets&prdNo=12

http://www.craftsman.com/shc/s/p_10...ent&cName=Hand+Tools&sName=Tools+Sets&prdNo=6

The second one is the one I think I bought.
 
I had literally hundreds of cars in my driving life, and the ones that were not dependable got parked until fixed or got sold-i am a firm believer in having a 'driver' that is also a 'beater', that is something that I can drive anywhere and I know is dependable. Beaters are inherently simple cars, not necessarily beautiful, fast or with extensive creature comforts. They don't have air suspensions or large, somewhat complicated 4-cam engines that are stuffed so tightly into the engine compartments that even routine things (oil changes, O2 sensors, VALVE COVER GASKETS, IMRC/Gen 1, or even just an EGR) are not absurd concepts when repairing or replacing..

They tend not to have complicated electrical systems that have multiple modules that do things that are usually routine or even manual on other cars. Having a Mark as a DD is problematic at best IMO. I know lots of guys who have them as DD's but they fall into two classifications-mechanically inclined people who can solve their own problems, quickly, and owners who get away with just driving them until it has to be fixed, then they either pay out the nose to fix it or they dump it.

If you want to keep it just because you have so much invested, get a beater until you can figure out how to get it right. I know, around here, I can find a car to get me back and forth for well under $1000-it may not be pretty but it would work, I find them all the time for others. You may eventually give up and cut your losses, but if you get a beater until you can decide one way or another, you will at least buy time so that you don't have to make a rush (or rash) decision.
 
One reason I miss my 5.0 Mustang, I could have it stripped down the the shortblock in about an hour. That car was insanely simple to work on.
 
I found someones steering rack writeup on another site. Doesn't look that bad really:

Steps 2, 3 and 4...that's awesome...so remove the wheels, then Jack it up, and remove the wheels again???
 
Glad I didn't tackle the rack...took it to a Mustang shop and the guy said the power steering pump is bad. He said it's spraying everywhere. He rigged it so it will work for a few days until I can get him the part he needs to fix it. Now the car steers 10,000 times better!
 
glad i didnt change the rack either or you would be on here complaining my work didnt fix it lol!!! i really hate that car.
 
Dude, make a list of all the :q:q:q:q and then leave it at the Mustang shop and let him fix it all so you can enjoy the car!
 
Dude, make a list of all the :q:q:q:q and then leave it at the Mustang shop and let him fix it all so you can enjoy the car!

Yeah he's tackling one thing at a time for me, starting with the steering pump on Wednesday. He also felt the miss in my car and said something definitely isn't right. I'm going to datalog it first to see if we can solve it that way.

I just learned how to hook up the datalogging software with my SCT, now I need to learn how to access the a/f part. Once I get that down I can do some datalogging and send it off to a local tuner to see if my car just needs a tune being catless.

If that doesn't solve the miss, I'm going to have him do a leak down test and a few other things to see if he can figure out what is causing the miss. I'm also buying a coil tomorrow to swap to each position to see if it helps at all.

I'm going to get this thing fixed! :)
 
glad i didnt change the rack either or you would be on here complaining my work didnt fix it lol!!! i really hate that car.

Everything happens for a reason Jamie. Your hesitation lead me to a different path which ended up solving it, so in some mystical way you somewhat helped with the solution :D

Best Advice ... go with it!!

Absolutely
 

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