Receiver and hitch

SultanGris said:
...if you really had experience you would know it not such a big deal when you know what you're doing...
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And if you had even more experience, you'd realize that it really can be a very big deal.
 
Give it up Joe. He's just doing that macho denial thing. Only this time he's doing the "passive/agressive" thing... instead of being outright agressive like he was months ago.
 
joegr said:
And if you had even more experience, you'd realize that it really can be a very big deal.
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oh I know it can be if you don't know what you're doing, for sure.

Also for the record I probably wouldn't exceed a thousand pound trailer and five hundred pounds of pin weight, after pulling that and seeing how it handles I would reevaluate, and you may not want to pull that much with five people in the car either, but if it's just you and the trailer you'll still be close enough to the payload limits that it won't make any difference, provided your hitch is attached to the car correctly of course.
 
SultanGris said:
Looking at fields is one thing, understanding what it takes to get that done is entirely another thing.
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That... is comical. I grew up in smalltown USA. surrounded by farm fields. The nearest REAL grocery store... was a half hour away... on the only paved state route. on the edge of the next town... and some of those roads were stone.

I have hunted an butchered my own deer. The farmer friend I have mentioned... raises (beef) cattle, and has raised some lambs also.

I helped butcher ("process") both the cattle and the lamb.

I have another couple farmer friends a few miles from me. One raises hogs... and the other raises both hogs and cattle. I have helped them butcher and "process" too.

I have raised chickens more than once over the years... and just "processed" some birds a month or 2 back.

I have a combo of 2 dozen chickens and Guinea Fowl. They will all eat out of my hand... and the Guinea will let me pet them. (try that some time)

Back before the ex wife left... I had her talked into raising Nubian goats... for both meat and milk.

Most of the plants/trees on my land are edible and/or medicinal.

You really need to stop talking out your ass... because you are starting to look like one.

If your farm equipment is constantly breaking down... I think you need to find a better mechanic.

Most farmers around me know how to fix their equipment... the right way. Once and done. They don' wait for a problem to happen.

And they definitely don't put anyone at risk in the process.
 
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I don't put anyone at risk either, and you know I'm correct so you can stop your ridiculous posturing, scroll up a few posts to where you admit hauling more than double your payload. You're overly cautious which isn't a bad thing but you're also a hypocrite. Don't get you're panties in a twist, a Lincoln LS can haul 2 bicycles without any issue at all, and that's just a simple fact, I'm sorry you incorrectly disagree.
 
SultanGris said:
scroll up a few posts to where you admit hauling more than double your payload.
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Yup... did it twice back to back for driveway stone. I was getting charged by the load... not the ton... so I tried to get my monies worth. That was 20+ years ago... and over 150k miles ago.

I also beforehand had custom rear HD springs made for the truck. I also only drove home at 35mph... cause I was more concerned about burning up the rearend... and the frame twist I was seeing in the rear view mirrior from the bed flexing side to side.

Everyone is a hypocrite. Some more than others.

And again... Dutch was also wanting to pull a trailer with his LS... but you keep missing that.
 
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SultanGris said:
a Lincoln LS can haul 2 bicycles without any issue at all, and that's just a simple fact
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That was my initial suggestion from the get go. But again... you missed the mention of pulling a trailer.

Just keep on bending and breaking stuff. You're doing just fine. But I seriously hope other members, (especially newbies), don't follow your example.
 
04_Sport_LS said:
That was my initial suggestion from the get go. But again... you missed the mention of pulling a trailer.

Just keep on bending and breaking stuff. You're doing just fine. But I seriously hope other members, (especially newbies), don't follow your example.
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Fair enough, but we don't know the size of the trailer in question so we're both speculating and I'm just assuming that he's not going to try and pull a 4000 lb pop up RV or something since he said small trailer, and apparently you're assuming he is so one of us is wrong, lol.

But regardless if you stay under the payload limit what's your issue? As you well know you can even exceed that payload limit slightly without problems, no different than filling up your back seat or your trunk provided hitch is attached correctly, I understand and agree with your point about attaching to the bumper that's not rated for it, but if you attach to the frame properly like a normal hitch like previous poster says his is you will have zero problems, zero.

You're very knowledgeable about certain things, but you're a little crazy on the by the book bs. Those are mere safety guidelines for your average retard. and just like George Carlin said, just imagine how dumb the average person you meet on the street is and then understand that half of the population is even dumber than that. that's why all these low ratings and stupid safety regulations exist, for the lowest common denominator. as you well know and have done yourself you can easily and safely exceed those ratings with experience, driving slower, allowing the stopping distance and whatnot.

It's quite clear that you've never been poor or worked in time sensitive situations and had to make do with what you have. Where I live in farm country everybody fixes things the way I do, it's just simply how it's done when you're not millionaires born with a silver spoon in your mouth. Sometimes you need a quick temporary fix to get you through the day and if you've never worked in those situations you will never understand that concept I guess. But like I said before, in a perfect world with unlimited funds I would agree with you but in the real world it's simply not always possible or feasible. in a farming environment you simply don't always have time or money to sit around and wait for some mechanic to come do it properly with the OEM parts the cost twice as much.

I've actually been waiting over a week for a guy to come fix something on my swather but if he doesn't show up pretty soon I'm going to fix it myself, these are the problems we deal with. Typical farms are 3,500 to 20,000 acres around here, 60 miles from the nearest town of 30,000 people. might be a little different where you live where you have tiny 150 acre farm or less, but we cover some ground and have a lot of work to do. some of my temporary fixes even last for years and years, so you really have no clue what you're talking about in these situations, but for what it's worth I do understand where you're coming from and would tend to agree with you mostly when it comes to this specific car at least, but you're simply way overly protective and incorrect in your way of thinking sometimes. No offense. like my ingenious fan fix you got your panties all in a wad over to temporarily cure my overheating problem for a couple weeks until I could afford the proper parts to do it correctly, worked great no issues, you'd have been walking for 2 weeks I guess. I easily temporarily fixed it with a short piece of wire that cost almost nothing. No problems.

you know a lot about this car and I have learned a lot from reading your posts and I do value your advice, but when you're wrong I'm going to tell you, that's just the way I am, sorry about your feelings. There are no safe spaces around me, lol
 
The problem is Ford never went thru all the work and documentation needed to provide a factory solution. So the LS is perfectly capable of towing but think about it from Ford's perspective. How many people buy an LS with the thought of towing? Not many so there's no market to justify all the cost let alone the added liability. It's much simpler and cheaper to just say no. Jaguar says the same thing about the S Type and again many people on the S Type forums have installed and used hitches with no problems.

The aftermarket has models out there that are rated. See attached installation instructions. The diagrams show very clearly how the hitch is attached and it's rated at 3500 Lbs Class II. Max tongue weight of 300 lbs. If the LS could not handle this I am sure lawsuits would be forthcoming and Curt would stop selling the hitch. But in 2021 it's still available just like it was back in 2006 or so when it first came out.

The LS requires an adapter to work the trailer lights correctly using the stock LS wiring system. So they plug into the rear brake harness. It's really the only way to do it correctly.
Towing Brake Light Harness

There are several hitches out in the aftermarket and I like and used the Curt version. Still only $165 or so.
Lincoln LS Trailer Hitch

Here is the Draw-Tite version.
LS Trailer Hitch

I towed a small single axle 4' X 8' utility trailer many times and many miles. As always driving with a trailer is more dangerous so no sporty LS style driving while hitched up!!

I sold some scrap metal once and for a short in town tow the LS pulled over 6000 lbs!
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SultanGris said:
It's quite clear that you've never been poor or worked in time sensitive situations and had to make do with what you have. Where I live in farm country everybody fixes things the way I do, it's just simply how it's done when you're not millionaires born with a silver spoon in your mouth. Sometimes you need a quick temporary fix to get you through the day and if you've never worked in those situations you will never understand that concept I guess
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Those are awful ballsy assumptions. But I would expect nothing less from you. Especially when you are hiding behind a user name on the internet... and running your mouth.

You know nothing about me... or what I have been through. I have lived the life of a 70 year old... though I am considerably younger than that.

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Fuck you Sultan. I could tell you all about the accident.. but if I gave even one detail about it... I would be saying too much.
 
SultanGris said:
like my ingenious fan fix you got your panties all in a wad over to temporarily cure my overheating problem for a couple weeks until I could afford the proper parts to do it correctly,
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No... actually Joe gave you flak for that... and said he gave up. I just called you a hack back then... and Joe agreed.
 
You're a moron sir, towing a trailer with a Lincoln LS is totally feasible, everyone knows it but you, give up your crying about it, you're wrong about this but it's ok, you still have lots of useful knowledge about this car. Have a good day.
 
Never said the LS couldn't tow a trailer... just that there were no ratings for it... and that alot had to be considered when using it to pull a trailer

This isn't about towing a trailer any more. YOU took it way past that... by running your mouth in a few posts above.

Goodbye Hack...move along.

Sorry Dutch.
 
04_Sport_LS said:
Never said the LS couldn't tow a trailer... just that there were no ratings for it... and that alot had to be considered when using it to pull a trailer

This isn't about towing a trailer any more. YOU took it way past that... by running your mouth in a few posts above.

Goodbye Hack...move along.

Sorry Dutch.
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Only person running their mouth here is you, I'm just responding to your stupid incorrect bullshit and stating facts. You actually said it couldn't even haul two bicycles without hitting a bump and having your bicycles fall off, clown. Have a good day.
 
Actually... I said 4 bikes and the rack. And I was talking about a plate hitch mounted to the actual bumper... not the frame.

But keep trying to twist what I say... you're still a hack... and dangerous to those around you.
 
04_Sport_LS said:
Mountain bikes can be heavy. Even aluminum ones. 4 of my bikes would equal 120 pounds total... plus whatever my steel bike rack weighs. Figure another 40 pounds.

Hang 160 pounds off the rear bumper of the LS... and hit a few stiff bumps or dips in the road... and see what happens.
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Quoting myself, (unedited), from post #7.

Try again buckwheat.
 
I'm dangerous to no one, you're completely out of your element, you don't even understand what's happening on a farm. And you're still wrong, a Lincoln LS can haul bikes and tow a trailer just fine. Have a good day.
 
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